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GarysZ24 08-09-2018 03:08 AM

Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Here it is/was day one that Grade 1's are now allowed to enter into Indy, and neither Stock or Super Stock have full fields (7 vacancies in Super Stock, and an even more shocking 17 in Stock as Wednesday Aug. 8th has now ended)?

My question is if our country is so great now, then why is this a reality, when in most (if not all), of the previous years since the 180 limit quota was created, these two classes would easily be full by then? I don't recall any years this century where racers with only 1 Grade Point could enter the biggest drag race of the year???? Interesting....

Mike Jones 08-09-2018 05:30 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 569488)
Here it is/was day one that Grade 1's are now allowed to enter into Indy, and neither Stock or Super Stock have full fields (7 vacancies in Super Stock, and an even more shocking 17 in Stock as Wednesday Aug. 8th has now ended)?

My question is if our country is so great now, then why is this a reality, when in most (if not all), of the previous years since the 180 limit quota was created, these two classes would easily be full by then? I don't recall any years this century where racers with only 1 Grade Point could enter the biggest drag race of the year???? Interesting....

Everybody is building/ ordering new stuff and the industry can`t keep up with the demand. Hope they get them done in time. MAGA
Mike A114

RULER 08-09-2018 05:34 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
This doesn't belong here,needs to be moved to the political section if that is what your implying

Lew Silverman 08-09-2018 08:02 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 569488)
Here it is/was day one that Grade 1's are now allowed to enter into Indy, and neither Stock or Super Stock have full fields (7 vacancies in Super Stock, and an even more shocking 17 in Stock as Wednesday Aug. 8th has now ended)?

My question is if our country is so great now, then why is this a reality, when in most (if not all), of the previous years since the 180 limit quota was created, these two classes would easily be full by then? I don't recall any years this century where racers with only 1 Grade Point could enter the biggest drag race of the year???? Interesting....


Interesting thought process, Gary, but I personally don't think we can "connect the dots" on this one so easily. IMHO, I believe the answer to the question you raised is more "practical" than "economic" and I'll tell you why - while there may be openings for 180 competitors this year in Stock Eliminator, there will be at least 52 contestants who, after making the trip to Indy (and THAT logistical nightmare) will find themselves leaving with nothing more to show for their experience than a "I Went to the "Big Go" and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" T-shirt. And, yes, I know how "special" Indy is, and how everyone (including yours truly!) would love to be able to make just one pass down that hallowed quarter mile, if you really think about it, without the AHFS to regulate things (and we've discussed this topic many times before) anyone who has any doubts about their ability to run "well under" their Class Index is going to have to think long and hard about making that large a commitment. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems to one "practical" consideration, don't you think?

Bobby DiDomenico 08-09-2018 08:23 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 569496)
Interesting thought process, Gary, but I personally don't think we can "connect the dots" on this one so easily. IMHO, I believe the answer to the question you raised is more "practical" than "economic" and I'll tell you why - while there may be openings for 180 competitors this year in Stock Eliminator, there will be at least 52 contestants who, after making the trip to Indy (and THAT logistical nightmare) will find themselves leaving with nothing more to show for their experience than a "I Went to the "Big Go" and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" T-shirt. And, yes, I know how "special" Indy is, and how everyone (including yours truly!) would love to be able to make just one pass down that hallowed quarter mile, if you really think about it, without the AHFS to regulate things (and we've discussed this topic many times before) anyone who has any doubts about their ability to run "well under" their Class Index is going to have to think long and hard about making that large a commitment. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems to one "practical" consideration, don't you think?

I was thinking along your lines Lew. Though it may be the one race folks get to meet up with other racers that haven't seen in a while. (And snag that T-shirt:-)

Nmbr1GMfan 08-09-2018 08:36 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
I know guys that aren't racing because they're so busy at work they can't leave.

JeremyDuncan 08-09-2018 08:37 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
If you add in the Factory Showdown cars, which where previously included in stock entries, stock is actually over 180 cars.

Andrew Hill 08-09-2018 08:39 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyDuncan (Post 569499)
If you add in the Factory Showdown cars, which where previously included in stock entries, stock is actually over 180 cars.

This.

And SS is at 175 cars, which is 35 more than were on the qualifying sheet last year. Seems like a pretty decent turnout to me.

Ken Miele 08-09-2018 08:45 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 569488)
Here it is/was day one that Grade 1's are now allowed to enter into Indy, and neither Stock or Super Stock have full fields (7 vacancies in Super Stock, and an even more shocking 17 in Stock as Wednesday Aug. 8th has now ended)?

My question is if our country is so great now, then why is this a reality, when in most (if not all), of the previous years since the 180 limit quota was created, these two classes would easily be full by then? I don't recall any years this century where racers with only 1 Grade Point could enter the biggest drag race of the year???? Interesting....

Politics do not belong here, the thread will be removed if members can't follow the rules. Please keep your comments to racing only.

Gary, you may want to check your facts. The last two years, the quota's where not reach. In fact, there are more cars entered now in Super Stock than the last two seasons. Stock entries have more cars than 2 years ago, and will easily pass last years with 4 weeks to go and if you include FSS, Stock is over 180. With a 180 quota, many wait to the last minute to register, I though that was pretty well known.

Bob Smith 08-09-2018 08:46 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
It has been like this the last handful of years. In fact it has filled faster this year.

TOSTO RACING 08-09-2018 09:08 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Everytime I've entered Indy it was with one grade point .

HR9121 08-09-2018 09:22 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
I would love to go but I guess it will have to wait till my later years. There's no way I can get away from my business for a week at the time especially considering how busy we are these days. I'll make it one of these days......

troublemaker427 08-09-2018 09:26 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 569501)
Politics do not belong here, the thread will be removed if members can't follow the rules. Please keep your comments to racing only.

Gary, you may want to check your facts. The last two years, the quota's where not reach. In fact, there are more cars entered now in Super Stock than the last two seasons. Stock entries have more cars than 2 years ago, and will easily pass last years with 4 weeks to go and if you include FSS, Stock is over 180. With a 180 quota, many wait to the last minute to register, I though that was pretty well known.

Thanks Ken!!!

Kevin McKenna 08-09-2018 10:03 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
And I was sitting here thinking the opposite...how great is is that Super Stock and Stock are both (almost) full with nearly three weeks to go before kick-off. Assuming 25-30 or so Factory Stockers, we're looking at almost 400 class cars at Indy.

Now can we just get a couple of sunny 72-75 degree days for class eliminations?

HR9121 08-09-2018 10:32 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna (Post 569509)
And I was sitting here thinking the opposite...how great is is that Super Stock and Stock are both (almost) full with nearly three weeks to go before kick-off. Assuming 25-30 or so Factory Stockers, we're looking at almost 400 class cars at Indy.

Now can we just get a couple of sunny 72-75 degree days for class eliminations?

Lol since we're dreaming how about a barometer over 30.00!

Bruce Noland 08-09-2018 10:45 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Instead of Factory Stockers it's more like Factory Stock.

Carguy49 08-09-2018 10:58 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
I just checked. Both Stock and Super Stock are just about full. How cool is that??? Anyone know what the weather will be for Indy ??

Todd Hoven 08-09-2018 11:25 AM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
It’s full now. So much for that reach



Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 569488)
Here it is/was day one that Grade 1's are now allowed to enter into Indy, and neither Stock or Super Stock have full fields (7 vacancies in Super Stock, and an even more shocking 17 in Stock as Wednesday Aug. 8th has now ended)?

My question is if our country is so great now, then why is this a reality, when in most (if not all), of the previous years since the 180 limit quota was created, these two classes would easily be full by then? I don't recall any years this century where racers with only 1 Grade Point could enter the biggest drag race of the year???? Interesting....


Steve Polhill 08-09-2018 12:01 PM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Only one spot left in Stock right now. I take that back it is now FULL.

Steve Polhill 08-09-2018 12:08 PM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 569501)
Politics do not belong here, the thread will be removed if members can't follow the rules. Please keep your comments to racing only.

Ken


He may be incorrect on the numbers but I don't see any Political statements in that post.

But with that said I remember not long ago barely getting into Indy with 4 grading points. The sad fact is the economy sucks all over the planet. Less disposable money means less racing. After Entering Indy my Bank account has a Negative number in it.

ALMACK 08-09-2018 12:18 PM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
My car will not run at least .900 under right now.

Otherwise, I would have signed up yesterday with my puny one grade point

Oscarf164 08-09-2018 12:27 PM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RULER (Post 569491)
This doesn't belong here,needs to be moved to the political section if that is what your implying


a little sensitive there aren't we? his theory might actually be accurate.

Steve Polhill 08-09-2018 12:27 PM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
considering the weather I'm scared mine might not either.

Yo Ken 08-09-2018 12:41 PM

Re: Is anyone else as surprised as I am?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Polhill (Post 569526)
Ken


He may be incorrect on the numbers but I don't see any Political statements in that post.

But with that said I remember not long ago barely getting into Indy with 4 grading points. The sad fact is the economy sucks all over the planet. Less disposable money means less racing. After Entering Indy my Bank account has a Negative number in it.


This is what I mean, I ask members not to bring politics into the thread and here you go. Thanks Steve, the thread is now closed.



Ken


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