Why Does Al Cordas COPO Run B/SA instead of FS Class
 

Why does Al Cordas COPO run B/SA instead of an FS class? Is MR. Cordas engine combo or year of COPO make a difference?
Thank you for the information in advance.
Gary

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I don't think it's officially considered a COPO. Maybe has something to do with it?

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I believe Al Corda's Camaro is an "SS" with the 365 HP engine with a lb/hp rating of 9.10, hence the B/SA factoring. When the Camaro's first came out they had a "little bit heavy" shipping weight, but it was "fixed" and this is a very competitive combination, at least with Mr. Corda at the wheel! :).

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That is correct, it's an actual Camaro with a vin number that could be purchased off the car lot as is Marion Stephenson's. They are not COPO's.

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I think its the same engine as a 14 COPO 376 only better specs and lower hp than the 14 COPO. All that seems fair?

Al being Al, my guess is that he will being in Earlville this weekend. Big return on small investment if he wins, and no teardown.

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About as fair as some of the Non-Drag Pack Challengers.
Welcome to the 21st Century version of Stock Eliminator!

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Factory Built Drag Pak's, Copo's, and Cobra Jet's can be converted to run traditional stock eliminator classes, (not the FS classes), provided there's an approved showroom engine combo for the year that they represent. This means the Drag Pak, Copo, or Cobra Jet, must have the correct sheet metal for the year they're claiming. It's been this way for several years! And no they don't have vin numbers. As Billy said, welcome to the new stock eliminator. You'll see more and more of these factory race cars in classes AA through V stock as more and more showroom engine combos are approved. Still waiting to see the first EcoBoost Cobra Jet !!

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I has told by tech that factory stock drag pak's couldn't race has a traditional because the front suspension and steering is not the same production car.

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Drag Pak's have production Challenger front suspension and the only difference in the steering is the manual rack instead of power. They will have to run the production hood and lights to match the year claimed.

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Larry, there was no 376 in 2014..

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Actually the VIN is irrevelant.
Yes, it was an original COPO, but technically not one now.
Al told me he had to change a few things back to what they were on the showroom cars.
I forgot what they were though. Maybe Al will fill us in.

BTW, Congrats, James

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My bad it was the 2010 376 at 400 plus hp.

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I'm thinking of doing it the old fashion way but in the 21 century. I purchased a 2009 Dodge challenger 5.7 with 81,000 miles, cold air and a nice sound system in the car. Car would have to weigh 3920 lbs. in J/SA. It's 300 lbs heavy in street trim. The engine seems easy to work on. The rear end looks like a bad hair day. The NHRA safety requirements kill any thought of just having fun with a street car. So do I take a perfect car and gut it? Decisions decisions!.
Welcome to the 21 century for sure. Not like buying a 1970 Hemi Challenger in 1970-72. Race it and either drive it or toe-bar it home.

Been waiting all year for my 440 engine for my 69 GTS Dart. The above is what happens when I sit around waiting.

Paul Haszlauer

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You can have fun with that car ! NHRA allows a Hellcat to run 10's without a roll bar . What other safety items do you think you need ?

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J/SA requires a roll bar, Seatbelts that only last 2 years, driveshaft loop, long studs, fuel check, harmonic balancer, SFI approved flexplate, leaded fuel and a few other things. It can run E.T racing if that's your pleasure.

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Yes I believe I was misinformed, I do believe the one Marion Stephenson is running does have a VIN # thought he told me he bought it as a flood damage car. And thank you!

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Unaltered 2008 OEM model year and newer production cars running slower than 9.99 and 135 mph do not have to meet the requirements and specifications for NHRA except for the following: Convertibles and T-tops must meet NHRA Roll Bar and Roll Cage requirements, All drivers must meet the NHRA Helmet and Protective Clothing requirements.

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Even is Stock Eliminator? Great news if correct. Wanted to see my daughter run stock with me at races but she likes newer cars. Go figure!

Thanks,
Paul Haszlauer

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Not likely! Stock Eliminator cars are heavily modified from factory configuration...

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Been racing stock for 45 years. No kidding. The truth is the 2009 dodge Challenger with very little could run index. Go figure! But not many crazy folks out there will buy a 20,000.00 car to strip it out, spend a few pennies to run I/SA. So I guess your only choice is to pucrhase a Drag Pak or a COPO Camaro if you want new. Pretty much what happen to stock eliminator. Went to modified in the last 45 years. Soon the 50 year old cars won't have a fan but a granddad like me. When stock eliminator was born it had new cars racing.

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Why does it sound like Stock ain't so Stock ?

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My guess is that tech will be questioning the width of the rear end of a 2016 CJ vs. a 2015 EB Mustang if someone shows up with a former CJ turned into a EB look alike.

The CJ is much narrower ( backing plate to backing plate...so to speak) than a EB

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The CJ/Drag Pak/COPO IRS replacement spec. is legal. I think that the late model Corvettes were the first to get a "pass" on the backing plate deal.

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^^^^^^ where are you it's Indy?

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