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Dan Lattimore 09-05-2018 12:05 AM

Jason Line Buick
 
Once again , If you're a BOP guy you have to be totally impressed with the performance of Jason Line's Buick . No easy task !

SSGN 09-05-2018 06:31 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
This is just a very impressive Buick! Buick guys are pretty proud of it and so we should be. Big congrats Jason from the Tri Shield camp.

Larry Hill 09-05-2018 09:33 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Jason makes a lot of us look like we just started racing. His stuff is " Bad Fast ". And I would greatly appreciate it if he would not help Lance so much, Lance is plenty smart on his own!

Billy Nees 09-05-2018 09:39 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Larry, not to take ANYTHING away from Jason's abilities but have you ever looked at a Buick cylinder head? The troubles are all in getting the bottom end to live.

stage1scott 09-05-2018 09:54 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 571974)
Larry, not to take ANYTHING away from Jason's abilities but have you ever looked at a Buick cylinder head? The troubles are all in getting the bottom end to live.

I have followed and loved Jason and that car since he won the stock championship in the 90s.
Having pursued 455 Buick ownership and drag racing most of my adult life, what Billy said is the real truth. Before the TA cylinder blocks (not legal in stock) hard core high compression Buick 455s regularly split apart in the main saddles-and by regularly I mean every 10-50 passes. spun rod bearings due to the incredibly poor oiling system is considered by some to be just normal operating procedure. I gave up on 11 to 1 combos in the late 90s and settled into 9 to 1 "safe" combos that would last-only high twelves in 4000 lb street trim but no engine removal every 6 months or less.

The ET s I see from Jason's car continue to stun me every time I see it run-those guys are an incredible team making that thing run that hard and live!

Jim Kaekel 09-05-2018 10:50 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Lattimore (Post 571949)
Once again , If you're a BOP guy you have to be totally impressed with the performance of Jason Line's Buick . No easy task !

Agreed. IMHO, it was by far the most impressive sportsman race car on the property. It's performance is truly outstanding. I would love to see an in-depth tech article on this car and it's mechanicals.

Bobby DiDomenico 09-05-2018 11:06 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 571984)
Agreed. IMHO, it was by far the most impressive sportsman race car on the property. It's performance is truly outstanding. I would love to see an in-depth tech article on this car and it's mechanicals.

I bet a lot folks want to see those secrets Jimmy! Just think if Buick had made a ram-air fiberglassed hood and plastic inner fenders version;-)

Dan Lattimore 09-05-2018 02:46 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Jim -- Completely agree. Billy--You're right about the cylinder heads and I would expect after three more passes Jason would be rolling some bearings in it. Awesome effort !

bubski 09-05-2018 08:27 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
If my memory serves me correctly!!! Didn’t Mr Line get tossed at end of his championship year for cheating !!! N not get to defend his #1 plate the following season???

Jim Cimarolli 09-05-2018 08:46 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
All I can say is a big WOW!!! That car is way past being impressive, congrats to the whole Line Performance Family.

larrylomascolo 09-05-2018 09:26 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
1.28 under is a wow factor for a car not on a diet what so ever, Impresive

Randall Klein 09-05-2018 09:38 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Even more impressive was his gracious interview with Comp plus video on C/SA field, acknowledging the changing of the guard with the new cars in C class

stage1scott 09-05-2018 09:43 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bubski (Post 572064)
If my memory serves me correctly!!! Didn’t Mr Line get tossed at end of his championship year for cheating !!! N not get to defend his #1 plate the following season???

Another Buick racer (see below) says this was not the case and Dave is no longer with us to ask so I respectfully withdraw my probably incorrect knowledge



Again I am astounded at how fast that car is now and as a lifelong Buick fan delighted he still has it and races it.

again, anyone who knows something different by all means correct me-I spent a good deal of time in the SoCal Buick club, bracket raced my 72 GS for many years and hung out with Dave and a lot of other knowledgeable Buick guys from that period.

john lemoine 09-05-2018 10:31 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
anything that the Line brothers touch ford chev or buick is impressive Congratulation Jason that Buick is bad fast

terry1 09-06-2018 09:02 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
In my humble opinion, I don't think I would EVER use the word "cheating" to
describe a DQ of a fellow racer.
I would, in my opinion, use things like he used the "wrong stuff", or, the specs
were not within spec.
The Line's did some work for me in the recent past; nothing but professionalism
in their work(well within spec) and customer relations!!
Terry Knapper

jmcarter 09-06-2018 09:58 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by terry1 (Post 572094)
In my humble opinion, I don't think I would EVER use the word "cheating" to
describe a DQ of a fellow racer.
I would, in my opinion, use things like he used the "wrong stuff", or, the specs
were not within spec.
The Line's did some work for me in the recent past; nothing but professionalism
in their work(well within spec) and customer relations!!
Terry Knapper

Agree, completely inappropriate to throw shade on Jason’s accomplishments. Meanwhile we complete along side the matty box crowd which I think got off lucky.

Lyn Smith 09-06-2018 11:49 AM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Scott,your take on why Jason got a time out is totally wrong, and should be taken down.

bigshow2966 09-06-2018 12:39 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
The story at the time was piston offset was wrong. Pistons were on the rods backwards to reduce friction.

Remember, that was before the innernets so it was good old "urban legend" stuff.

But anything the Line family touches seems to be a rocket.

stage1scott 09-06-2018 12:45 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshow2966 (Post 572114)
The story at the time was piston offset was wrong. Pistons were on the rods backwards to reduce friction.

Remember, that was before the innernets so it was good old "urban legend" stuff.

But anything the Line family touches seems to be a rocket.

Lyn Smith?

Lyn Smith 09-06-2018 01:25 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Scott,you are not taking Pms so I cant correct you.The piston offset story is also wrong.

stage1scott 09-06-2018 02:18 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 572118)
Scott,you are not taking Pms so I cant correct you.The piston offset story is also wrong.

pm resent, I think its fixed, thanks Lyn

Dan Bennett 09-06-2018 03:45 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Back in the day, nobody I knew took Buick seriously, mainly because they were really uncommon with everybody doing Chevrolet, Mopar, and Ford. In the late 60s/early 70s there was only a single Stage 1 in a 50 mile radius. It was owned by a guy a lot older than the rest of us who never raced, so we were clueless about how they ran.

In the really early days when people started apprecating musclecars again (late 1980s) I became aware of what a stock Buick was capable of.

I owned both an LS6 and a Stage 1, each was completely original and stock with about 40K miles. The Buick could give the LS6 everything it could handle on the street.

Not taking anything away from Jason, as I have the highest respect for the work he and his family turns out. But the package he started working on was a lot better than most people imagine.

Randall Klein 09-06-2018 06:45 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
I was always amazed during Top Stock how well Tom Rix did in his Buick,at least I think it was a Buick

SSGN 09-06-2018 09:07 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 572138)
I was always amazed during Top Stock how well Tom Rix did in his Buick,at least I think it was a Buick

Tom is another VERY well respected Buick wizard. I saw his Apolo last year in Bowling Green, mid 9s all day long.

HP HUNTER 09-06-2018 09:23 PM

Re: Jason Line Buick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 571974)
Larry, not to take ANYTHING away from Jason's abilities but have you ever looked at a Buick cylinder head? The troubles are all in getting the bottom end to live.

.

What do you see when looking at those Buick heads, just curious.

" The troubles are all in getting the bottom end to live" At 7000 + RPM


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