Davis step headers
 

Curious. Tried email and phone but no luck. Voicemail full, 800 number don't work, no reply on email. Out of business? Too busy? Just curious.

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Is this one of the numbers you called ?

909-559-8445

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I thought I heard that Jack has passed away. I might be wrong

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Last I heard Darrin has been running the biz, has for years.

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i know that Darren has been doing his real estate biz lately, maybe the header side has been hurt by that.

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Yes tried that. Says the voicemail box is full. Emailed 2 different times. The 800 number does not work. Maybe start looking around. My old Hookers are from early 1991 and in a little tough shape.

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pm me your number and I will forward it to him

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Wouldn't bother save your time and money . Sent him money to build me a set and after getting jerked around for almost a year had to threaten legal action to get either my money or my headers . Wish I would have been warned before had . Kept all the text just incase he denies it . MULTIPLE delivery dates not met then after 9 MONTHS asked for me headers or my money . He told me I was a nobody and he didn't need my money anyway . Again kept all the text and recorded all the conversation for legal reasons . DO your self a favor and go else where .

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There are a lot of header builders , this Sould not be a first choice!!!!!!

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Talk to Greg at REF. Pretty fast and has always treated us really well.

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Very pleased with the REF headers on my car; Mark Lelchook also does fantastic work. Mark might be a bit more familiar with a Max Wedge car, Steve Wann (and many others) runs his stuff which is a pretty good endorsement I'd say.

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another vote for Greg aka REF. Did a great job copying my existing step headers and making slight tweaks I requested. Great workmanship and fast.

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Who is REF headers?

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REF is Race Engineering & Fabrication located in Kingman, AZ. Greg Holman is the man there. There isn't enough time to say all the good things about REF. Outstanding work and performance to match. Their number is 928-692-0111.

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Got a guy here local that does super work on headers. PM me and I'll send ya info.

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Is Greg Holman any relation to Ed Holman, that was at the original Hooker headers company? He was a great fellow to work with, back in the day.
Eddie Rezac

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If I remember correctly it's his son?

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X 2

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Wish I had my Stahl headers back. 1 7/8", no steps, faster than any step headers I've tested. Just as Jere said they would be.

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X 2 on REF ordered the headers got them 1 week later beautiful and picked my aa/s car up a tenth! Over Davis step headers also later on as result of large wheelie bent some pipes sent them to Greg had them back in 1 week at a very low repair price ! Great people and product !

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Looked over a set of headers that Ben Line from Minnesota built and the craftsmanship was incredible. I certainly put him in the mix.

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info on Greg at REF [Race Exhaust Fab] in Kingman, AZ.
phone 928/692-0111 Fax at 928/692-0803

since I live here, I have been to the shop a lot. sometimes I go just to watch. the headers he builds are always as symmetrical as possible. plug access is always a top priority. he built me a beautiful set of merge collectors that knocked off most of a tenth on my old P/S 56. and Robbys welds are like an artist painted the on! you can get std. steel or stainless.
you wont get jerked around here.
Rod in AZ

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I don't have stainless headers but I saw Jon Kasse on YT I think saying that he has seen rust particles on top of the throttle blades! His assumption is that there is enough pulsation to move a rust particle from the header to the carb. I could see a backfire doing it. Here in the rust belt every first start of the season leaves lots of rust on the floor. He actually suggests a starting sequence where you get to 3000-4000 rpm as fast as you can after the engine lights. In my mind this adds an important reason to go stainless. I just curious are they building with 300 series stainless or 400? Ray

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Look into Electroless Nickel Plating!

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The only reason to go with stainless is weight savings but don?t expect the weight savings of stainless headers over mild steel to show anything on the time slip.

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Billy I never thought of that. Does the plating flake or discolor? I would think this would be a method to brand new headers and not used headers?
Merry Christmas, Ray

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There are more reasons than weight savings to use a stainless header.

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There is not. Stainless also looks like shyt when it heat cycles and is prone to cracking.

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The people who I deal with will only do new headers. I don't know about other outfits. It doesn't flake but it does discolor just like a stainless header. IMHO, much better than any ceramic coatings that I've dealt with. Not saying that all ceramic coatings are bad.

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The best at applying ceramic coating to headers is Central Connecticut Coatings. Gene has been coating my headers going back 30 years. His coating has never failed in any way. He also does powder coating from full chassis to the parts.

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They coated my headers and their work is impeccable.

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Gene was Airborne Coatings at the same location originally.

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Gee, I've had the same set for the past 15 yrs. and they haven't cracked. It's also really nice to crawl under the car and not worry about getting rust in my eyes from mild steel headers. Easy to take apart as well as the collectors don't get rusted on. Once you go stainless...you won't go back.

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I’ve never had any any of your issues with mild steel, ceramic coated headers and mine still look as the day I installed them. Yours look like shyt!

FYI, the original set on my Firebird were 18 years old before I replaced them.

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Ed,
I have never been happy with ceramic coating. Looks great new but eventually looks like a rusty header. Who coats the header that lasted 18 years? Merry Christmas, Ray

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Ray, as I already stated

Though I recoated them once in that time frame they were never a rusty mess, I just like to keep my stuff looking as good as it performs. I”ll check to see if I have a few photos of them.

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Frankly, I like the appearance of a set of stainless headers that have been run and obtained that light bronzeish tint. If not, they can be restored to new with some elbow grease.

The heat transfer differences in the two metals are also supposed to favor stainless with under hood temps and gas flow. Although I don't see that mentioned in conversations as much as I have in the past.

Ceramic coated mild steel pipes can stay nice for a long time, if it was a quality job and they are taken care of. The problem is on the inside, where it matters, and where it's hard to get the coating right. I've seen plenty of ceramic headers that still look nice, but when you start the thing after sitting for awhile, the rust and crap blows out of the pipes as if they were bare inside.

That stuff gets back up into the engine too. No way around it.