End of the year HP averages
 

Has NHRA posted the end of the year averages used to calculate the new Horsepower adjustment? If so where can I find it?
Thanks
Jim

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No, Pat C. Was WAY too busy processing the WELFARE requests for removing HP.....At least in this great country, you can only receive welfare for 24 months during a five year period. ......I will apologize to the HARD working racers that have an unfavorable combo and really needed the assistance.......As for the others, the E MAIL racers that CONSTANTLY manipulate the system ....Congrats on your early XMAS gift....

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Hmmm... saw they took a little off one of our cars (Corvette), maybe now put the other engine in and see if the poor thing can go a bit faster. We will have to keep working on the Camaro in SS....

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Let's see here. Already a 1.40 under combo in T/SA. Now maybe -1.45 ?


Chev 283 220 217 214 65-66 Impala


Great job of working the system by somebody.

My question is whether a 283 Chevy can now be called a "bogus combo" ?

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Yes, these same racers will be at the top of the sheet walking around the pits with their chest stuck out as IF they really accomplished this through hard work. .....what a bunch of chicken **** ..........MJ QUINN.....

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It can if it has the "right" intake!

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MJ talk about welfare
What about your combo Get hit 120 under at Englishtown 2016
But change front bumper and get the 120 lbs off
Welfare comes in all different forms But that was ok.

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AND go back to the old Hp
Can't do that with a Firebird!

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In Nitro Joe's 2018 stats I don't see a 1966 Nova 275 hp stick ever run a second under to get flagged.
An automatic car was flagged. I guess they considered the average of sticks and automatics combined.

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Bob, I checked in the guide and it was only the auto that got hp.

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Did MJ cry ? NO....Did MJ say it was OK? NO....Did MJ write one stinking e mail begging for HP off ? NO....next question.......

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MJ why cry? welfare was accepted You got your bumper ...EBT card and used it
I wouldn’t complain either if the welfare was available to me
But I already have a soft combo 255 /280 hp.
I will bolt on my tow rope and try and drag any welfare recipients to the HP office
For review but the government shutdown will save you all Merry Xmas

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Upon further review, I sincerely apologize to Jim Parsons for hijacking his thread.....Merry Christmas to all, even James P.......LOL. ...!!!

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Once the AHFS has determined that a combination's performance warrants a HP increase, how is it that the same AHFS can give that same combination a HP reduction in the future? Was it wrong in the first place? It's a contradiction to say the least.

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That Peterson guy would cry if he was hung with a new rope.

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I don't understand how a combo that came out of the factory with under rated HP, but then gets 40 HP off the under rated HP. Can someone explain how that happens? Also, when the HP comes off, then it becomes a killer car in the new class it drops into and NHRA does nothing to correct the class.

Casey Miles
Stock

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Remember that the 283 is not running quicker just because of a horsepower change. NHRA finally allowed the three speed which should have been legal all along.

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Just curious Bill, why should it have been legal all along ? I raced a 283 many moons ago...Thanks..

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The Turbo 350 was available from the factory after 1964 and found it's way into a lot of combinations. The factory didn't release all information to NHRA and there are some things that NHRA just accepted.
Can a six cylinder chevy 2 use a four speed stick?

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I raced a 283 for a few seasons in a wagon similar to Captain Jack. I know either in the late 50 s or early 60 s Chevy had a turboglide but I am not sure it came behind a 283. Every 283 I have seen had a PG behind it ...maybe Billy Nees or Mark Yac can chime in....When Steve Tarrance was kicking Azz with his 6 cylinder Chevy 11 he was running a 4 speed...

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Turboglides did come in 283 powered cars starting in '57, not sure when they dropped them, maybe '61. A three speed was never factory installed behind a 283 that I remember but some late 50's pickups came with a 283 and the 4 speed hydro, the sedan deliveries were considered trucks so that's how they were able to use the hydros.
350 transmissions were not introduced until 1969, no three speeds for the 64's, the '65 big cars used the turbo 400 for the first time behind the 396. The turbo 400 was used behind small blocks in '68 big cars and some '68 pickups and of course in Vettes for several years. Ironically the '66 Chevelle 396 auto cars were powerglides.
I'm pretty sure Tarrances car was a three speed.


No documentation for backup but the way I remembered it.

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three speed automatic in late 50/60s was sedan deliverys only those panel truck looking things that's the way I remember it hope im not given my age away

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Sedan Delivery has 4 Speed Hydro in 50's
All others were Powerglides
Hence the popularity of the Sedan Delivery Wagons.

I am even older than you Mike!

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I've never seen a 283 car with a 3 speed auto in it, not counting turboglides which were 3 speed autos. The FIRST smallblock car that I ever saw with a 350 turbo in it was/is a 68 Camaro 327/275 bought NEW by a Bracket Racer in N.J. and he STILL has the car.
To my knowledge you couldn't get a 4 speed behind a 6 cyl. in a Chevy II but you COULD in a Camaro. I've owned two.

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Wow, if Steve’s car was indeed a 3 speed.....it’s even more impressive.....always remember him rocking in the seat during the gear exchange...

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I am pretty certain we sold Steve all of our GM three speed stuff (well used) when we went to the Nash 4-1 trans in early 1977.

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Correct me if I am wrong. The sedan delivery did not come with the 4 speed hydro. NHRA declared them to be a light duty truck, and allowed the hydro to be run in them, but the trans came in pickup trucks.

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as far as the turboglide i HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION you need ... was what i was showing to bruce and garcia to get it approved LEGALLY .... which lasted 11 months before they gave three speeds to all the other who DID NOT COME WITH ONE !!! in fact it was the documentaion that endeared me to WAYNE in division 5 !! LOL

end of story ....
captain

i dont wanna discuss the intake :)

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Did anyone else notice that a turboglide 283 had a larger pilot bearing hole then a powerglide or stick car {just the hole size } or did I get the only one ever made ? A normal sized pilot bearing was too small for the hole in the crank but I did find an aftermarket one that worked for a stick trans setup. I did break the crank but that was my fault