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Al Wilson 01-30-2019 06:28 PM

Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Are they legal in Stock? Has anyone tried one? This is for an AMC 304 engine, originally equipped with a PCV valve.


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Mark Yacavone 01-30-2019 08:54 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson (Post 581301)
Are they legal in Stock?

If they post contingency , they will be.

John Dinkel 01-30-2019 10:26 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Why not.

Ed Wright 01-31-2019 01:26 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
I played with those when I still had my flow bench. Mid '70s 454" trucks had the highest flowing I found at that time. Must have been ten years ago. An NHRA Tech guy made me take mine off. I still feel like that is wrong, but I try to follow their directions. My car came with one, still feel like it should have one. Gone now.

Ed McLawhorn Jr. 01-31-2019 02:31 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 581364)
I played with those when I still had my flow bench. Mid '70s 454" trucks had the highest flowing I found at that time.

Ed check your pm s.

Hacksaw 01-31-2019 04:17 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 581364)
I played with those when I still had my flow bench. Mid '70s 454" trucks had the highest flowing I found at that time. Must have been ten years ago. An NHRA Tech guy made me take mine off. I still feel like that is wrong, but I try to follow their directions. My car came with one, still feel like it should have one. Gone now.

OK, we are talking a drag race engine here so why would you want to let crankcase pressure fumes enter the intake side and taint the fresh fuel charge?

Jeff Stout 01-31-2019 05:44 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
I always thought it was a way to build crankcase vacuum. The bonus is the nitro in the oil going into intake charge.

Ralph A Powell 01-31-2019 05:56 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Don Hardy told me a couple of years ago the Ford 460 was the highest flowing pcv he had found.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 581364)
I played with those when I still had my flow bench. Mid '70s 454" trucks had the highest flowing I found at that time. Must have been ten years ago. An NHRA Tech guy made me take mine off. I still feel like that is wrong, but I try to follow their directions. My car came with one, still feel like it should have one. Gone now.


Bench Racer 01-31-2019 06:01 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 581379)
I always thought it was a way to build crankcase vacuum. The bonus is the nitro in the oil going into intake charge.

Is this better than the sterno on the top of the radiator?

Dragsinger 01-31-2019 07:53 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
The tech sheets show the valve works with an idle vacuum above 7" Most of our stockers or super stockers do not have 7" vacuum idle.

Frank Castros 01-31-2019 08:14 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Interesting subject, I hope more with contribute to this thread.

Ed Wright 01-31-2019 10:56 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 581376)
OK, we are talking a drag race engine here so why would you want to let crankcase pressure fumes enter the intake side and taint the fresh fuel charge?

It's air.

Billy Nees 02-01-2019 08:23 AM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 581400)
It's air.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^BINGO^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^

Especially in a severely restricted engine.

Bobby DiDomenico 02-01-2019 11:39 AM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragsinger (Post 581391)
The tech sheets show the valve works with an idle vacuum above 7" Most of our stockers or super stockers do not have 7" vacuum idle.

Who says it has to work? (Or work as the emissions system was designed?;-)
Remember those NASCAR and other intakes with the drilled out mounting studs? This is a lot bigger hole.

Ed Wright 02-01-2019 12:41 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
[QUOTE=Bobby DiDomenico;581432]Who says it has to work? (Or work as the emissions system was designed?;-)

Yeah, and nobody ever clipped a spring, with a restricted engine that, naturally, pulls manifold vacuum @ WOT, right?

Coleydog 02-01-2019 02:49 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Just like another throttle blade, kinda bad mixture at idle but wide open a good increase, just richen up the jets. Big breather on other valve cover, not much oil spray. Would be interesting to see what cfm goes thru it. I can see why tech would shoot it down.

Ed Wright 02-01-2019 05:17 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
I have heard of guys using epoxy & a drill to convert the PCV hose nipple from manifold vacuum, to "ported" vacuum, which only pulls air with the throttle blades open. Just heard stories about that. Don't really know.

Timetraveler 02-01-2019 08:25 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
I had one that rattled when I shook it. I thought it was broke "So I fixed it".

Tom Meyer 02-01-2019 08:39 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
There are guys running check valves from power brake units instead of the pcv valves. Its a poor mans vacuum pump. was always told if you could keep some vacuum in the crankcase say 3 in it would free up some power. Remember for all the air that is moving on top of the piston there is air moving below it also. Back in the day they said it helped ring flutter. But with todays ring combos who knows. Tom

Coleydog 02-02-2019 10:39 AM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Back in the 70s I used a hemi fuel pump hooked to a PCV on my max wedge 64 Plym (later valve covers) I did it mostly for blow by, had to use a catch can so it was doing something.

MR DERBY CITY 02-02-2019 12:53 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Posting for a friend with a 2 barrel.......
He never tightens his carb bolts, and he has a hellacious throttle return spring, actually two of them....

Mark Yacavone 02-02-2019 03:27 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 581507)
Posting for a friend with a 2 barrel.......
He never tightens his carb bolts, and he has a hellacious throttle return spring, actually two of them....

Wasn't illegal until a bit after this picture was taken...

GTOMayhem 02-02-2019 05:13 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 581408)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^BINGO^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^

Especially in a severely restricted engine.


So on a small cube motor, say a 305, with a Quadrajet; no benefit from anymore air? Also asking for a friend.


Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

Billy Nees 02-02-2019 06:05 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
On my 301 4V I use a power brake check valve with the crankcase sealed. I like to TRY and keep some vacuum in it. I can't tell if it's worth anything but it doesn't seem to be hurting it.

Mark Yacavone 02-02-2019 06:18 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
I don't think you can pull much vacuum in the crankcase with just a PCV ..Maybe with the check ball completely removed.. Would be hard to tune that set up ;-)
You need the header hoses for high speed suction. Of course, not legal in Stock.

I just use the PCV to help keep more of that thin synthetic oil inside the motor.

GTOMayhem 02-02-2019 06:50 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 581531)
On my 301 4V I use a power brake check valve with the crankcase sealed. I like to TRY and keep some vacuum in it. I can't tell if it's worth anything but it doesn't seem to be hurting it.


So no breather on the cover? Just the brake check valve on one of the valve covers? Or being a Pontiac, the valley pan?


Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

Billy Nees 02-02-2019 07:42 PM

Re: Adjustable PCV Valve
 
Yup.


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