Legal Heads for SS/modified
So I acquired a couple new combination possibilities. One is a 315" sbc that was originally in a C/EA car in the early 90's. Has Pontiac aluminum heads and composite Intake from Brandywine. Its all fresh, just old technology and it was cheap enough to try it out. I believe Brodix cast them back in the day for NASCAR or something. Are these a legal head for say SS/BS or CS? Also, I have a top end complete SB2.2 for this shortblock after I change the necessary components. I was also wondering where that would fit in. If It would be legal in BS or would I have to go into say BM? I have sent a email to tech, but I have not received an answer. Just curious if anyone could help me out.
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SS/CS is cast iron in line valve heads only. Aftermarket heads need to be on the NHRA Accepted Product List. GM and Pontiac are listed separately so I don't know if you can run Pontiac heads on a Chevy. The national record holder in CS is a 302 Ford running NASCAR iron short track heads. They aren't listed but have a factory part number.
Aftermarket aluminum heads, inline or canted, are allowed in SS/BS. Watch out for the Hancock and Lane car from D6 if you build this. EDIT: I had difficulty getting responses from tech out here on the West coast for Super Stock Modified classes too. I didn't go ahead with my build until I found the Canadian car I referenced above on Facebook, CR and in the NHRA record book. It's a weight to HP group with few engine and valve restrictions. |
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The Pontiac heads were made for the small block Chevy and are legal in Modified. I use the Buick head on a small block Chevy which is legal in SS Modified
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The Aluminum heads would be legal in SS/BS.
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Can run SS/BS with either cylinder head, or run SS/AS with the SB2.2.
Can also run SS/AM thru SS/FM with both heads. Canted valve allowed also in SS/AM and SS/BM. SB2.2 is a splayed valved head, not canted. |
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I think the 2016 Div 4 SS champ ran a small cu in SB.2 engine in SS/BS.
Two sets of headers came with the car. Looks like a 15-18 deg set and an SB.2 set. |
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SB2 is a canted, not splayed.
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Thank you for all your replies. I really appreciate the info. Now to get it together and make some noise
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SB2 valve angles are 12° x 4° Intake and 8° x 0° Exhaust and considered Canted. The SB2.2 valve angles are 11° x 4° Intake and 8° x 0° Exhaust and considered Splayed with all the intake ports pointing towards the center of the cylinder head. The 8° Exhaust valve angles towards the intake manifold just like a normal wedge cylinder head. |
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Thanks, did not know that!
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The way I read the new Head rules is that any aftermarket head is legal in SS Modified. Doesn't need to be factory part number any more.
some CFE splayed valve in SS/AS or AJ 18 degree in SS/BS?? |
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The aftermarket cylinder head needs to be approved by NHRA and added to the list of NHRA accepted products. No billet heads allowed although there are rumors of some billet heads in use that have been made to look like a casting. It took me close to a year to get an Edelbrock cylinder head approved. |
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Be careful down there in the Modified and Modified Stock classes of SS. Read and stick to current rules.
SuperStock Modified "V-8 splayed valve permitted in AM and BM, canted or inline in CM through FM, and any valve configuration in GM with V-6 engine. All heads must be NHRA-accepted, two valves per cylinder. Aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads permitted (no billet)." Where it matters: SS/CM Aluminum canted heads allowed with NHRA stamp. SuperStock Modified Stock "V-8 splayed valve permitted in AS, canted or inline in BS, inline only in CS, and any valve configuration in DS. All heads must be NHRA-accepted, two valves per cylinder, except in classes DS, ES, FS, and GS, four valves per cylinder permitted. Aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads permitted (no billet) except in CS." Where it matters: SS/CS Inline iron heads only. Watch your Modifieds..... |
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In the recent past, cylinder heads used in NHRA Super Stock Modified class had to have an OE casting number. However current rules state that aftermarket aluminum heads may be used in this class. But it also states that the heads must be on the "NHRA approved head" list. Make sure that the heads you chose to use are in this NHRA "list" and keep a hard copy of this list in your files. Yes, it is true, NHRA has been known to change their minds on this sort of things in the past. If your heads happen to get dropped from the list in the future, you should be "grandfathered in" with the list of the approved heads in your possession.
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Here is current list of the legal aftermarket heads allowed in the SS/Mod classes.
So whats on here or having a genuine factory part number is whats legal. Good luck, have fun! |
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Sorry for any confusion, I missed the Approved, lingo!!
WoW, that 14500000C Dart head is a 9 deg head.. AJ 18 head won't hang with that |
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Ford boys use the N351 Sportsman head with a 10 degree valve angle. It's not on the list because it's a Ford part number M-6049. n351. It's on the SS/CS record holder. |
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That Ford head is iron and nobody would use that in any other class than SS/CS.
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Racing Head Service (RHS), used to offer a large port SBF, 20 degree cylinder head under their ProAction line. These were based on an Australian made cylinder head.
They were available with 185cc, 200cc, 215cc, 221cc and 235cc intake ports with chambers in different sizes, as low as 58cc. There still some out there for sale and they pop up in Ebay all the time. I have a new set of of the 235cc bare castings and would be a head to get approved as an alternate to the N351 head. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/RHS-3...cc,225808.html |
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Had to change my head gaskets today. Wrapped a chain around my waist and bolted the ends to the shop floor to keep from ending up face down in the engine bay. I'd use my crane but it's out of reach right now. |
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The iron Pro-Action 14 degree head would be great.....if they hadn't been discontinued almost a decade ago. Hasn't Ford stopped producing N351/352 also? |
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I think so. The article I have on the update and "new" casting run is dated 2002. I don't know how many heads they did in that run, but they are still available from Speedway and (I think) PitStopUSA. Jesel had a rail rocker kit for the N head in stock. It's the approved head for grass roots circle track racing so as long as Fords are on dirt tracks, N heads will be on the shelf somewhere. |
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NHRA will only approve cylinder heads available to the public.
The RHS/ProAction cast iron cylinder heads were discountinued many years ago. How I know? I tried to get the RHS Ford cast iron head in the approved list and was rejected twice because they are were discontinued. There are still some virgin SBC 14 degree heads out there, however, due to their demand in the Comp Eliminator Jr. Fuel classes, they are a big commodity. There are still a large number of Ford N351 castings available because they have been banned from many circle track classes. As a matter of fact, I have two pairs of new N351 heads on the shelf and one set of fully ported bare heads also. |
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On the ported set are the intake ports raised and the floor raised from the short turn raised the same amount?
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If it has a GM casting number is it legal, Not talking about the SS/CS class.. the rest of the modified classes.
But would it have to be approved for SS/CS? |
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It's aluminum, so no for SS/CS. Inline iron heads only. Handy link:http://www.castingnumbers.info/site/main |
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The cylinder heads were casted by Dart for GM. They would be legal in SS/AS and SS/BS, SS/TA, SS/TB, SS/TC and SS/CM thru SS/FM |
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