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John DiBartolomeo 02-13-2019 09:10 AM

This Week's Two-Cents Worth
 
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"I think they’re slowly transitioning into entertainment and maybe that’s where the future of the professional end of the sport lies. But at the same time, they’re continuing to push the sportsman racers further out the door."

https://dragracingedge.com/featured-...e-first-event/

James Perrone 02-13-2019 10:02 AM

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Well I guess the question around the pits will be answered soon
What would happen if one of the Big 3. Folded up what would Nhra do?
And crazy to think pro stock had the only full field.
Nhra heads in the sand as usual. As a sportsman racer it’s Sad.

340Cuda 02-13-2019 10:29 AM

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Pro Stock and Funny Car had full fields. Top Fuel had a full field of entries, but had at least one or two withdraw leaving the field short.

I worry more about the high dollar Sportsman categories, Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, and Competition Eliminator more than the Pros.

fastlane 02-13-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda (Post 582308)
Pro Stock and Funny Car had full fields. Top Fuel had a full field of entries, but had at least one or two withdraw leaving the field short.

I worry more about the high dollar Sportsman categories, Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, and Competition Eliminator more than the Pros.

NHRA thought they would help Comp by allowing the Hemi class and the Showdown cars in except they are forced to run Comp with stock rules 9 inch tire no transbrake no air shifter. Yes you can run Comp but with out all the things your competition can have. Stupid and why run at a disadvantage

Bucky Hess 02-13-2019 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fastlane (Post 582339)
NHRA thought they would help Comp by allowing the Hemi class and the Showdown cars in except they are forced to run Comp with stock rules 9 inch tire no transbrake no air shifter. Yes you can run Comp but with out all the things your competition can have. Stupid and why run at a disadvantage

and a terrible index

doglover44 02-13-2019 05:42 PM

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Someday there will be no sportsman at national events all pro show

CMcAllister 02-13-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 582365)
Someday there will be no sportsman at national events all pro show

And what will they use to fill the downtime? The $64,000 question. Will it look like the big booked in shows with fuel cars, jets, wheelstanders, maybe monster trucks and some bracket racing?

Ed Wright 02-13-2019 06:19 PM

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They can still use the .90 stuff for filler.

Mike Jones 02-13-2019 06:37 PM

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TS and TD

G Schenck 02-13-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fastlane (Post 582339)
NHRA thought they would help Comp by allowing the Hemi class and the Showdown cars in except they are forced to run Comp with stock rules 9 inch tire no transbrake no air shifter. Yes you can run Comp but with out all the things your competition can have. Stupid and why run at a disadvantage

There are some classes in Comp restricted to tire size and no auto shift.
I also agree with Becky very hard index for AH cars only.

Greg

1320racer 02-13-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John DiBartolomeo (Post 582303)
they’re continuing to push the sportsman racers further out the door.

How?

james schaechter 02-13-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 582306)
Well I guess the question around the pits will be answered soon
What would happen if one of the Big 3. Folded up what would Nhra do?
And crazy to think pro stock had the only full field.
Nhra heads in the sand as usual. As a sportsman racer it’s Sad.

This is what happens when an association that is supposed to serve its members and mission is taken over by people with no passion or love for the sport. It is too bad that the upper level execs overide the true stewards of the sport that we love!

MR DERBY CITY 02-13-2019 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 582384)
This is what happens when an association that is supposed to serve its members and mission is taken over by people with no passion or love for the sport. It is too bad that the upper level execs overide the true stewards of the sport that we love!

This is what happens when a RACING organization is run by suits that have never RACED and know very little about RACING....

David Hakim 02-13-2019 11:25 PM

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The NMCA will welcome you all with open arms.

Rob Petrie E395 02-13-2019 11:34 PM

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What would happen if one of the Big 3. Folded up what would Nhra do?


I've been out of the loop and not following much racing for the last year or so. And just stated looking and reading in the last month or so. Is there talk of / rumors of one of them getting completely out of drag racing?

Ed Fernandez 02-13-2019 11:47 PM

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They could have Kayne West do sets between rounds.

BRINK 02-14-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by John DiBartolomeo (Post 582303)
"I think they’re slowly transitioning into entertainment and maybe that’s where the future of the professional end of the sport lies. But at the same time, they’re continuing to push the sportsman racers further out the door."

https://dragracingedge.com/featured-...e-first-event/

John,
Great article, as usual. I certainly agree with all of your observations. The one truth that we all seem to forget, however, is that NHRA needs our entry fees to run their National Events. The money that we all send in advance with our entries helps to cover a large percentage of the costs of these events. Also, it seems that it is becoming increasingly more difficult to attract title rights sponsors for any forms of racing. Large corporations are looking at other venues to advertise and market their products. All the different types of automobile racing are loosing the allure that they once enjoyed. All forms of auto racing are becoming less than politically correct. As a direct result, NHRA now needs our entry fees more than ever. If they didn't, I feel we would all be gone by now.

Randall Klein 02-14-2019 12:08 PM

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Just dreaming while snowed & iced in: NMCA is mostly east coast-midwest I think, but using that group as a foundation, we get an "entity" like CAL COVER/LUCAS OIL to agree to give some gravitas to an expanded organization, funded by 1500Class Racers at $500 per year

Nitro Joe stats has 2600 S, SS list, some duplicates and some will never kick in, not counting IHRA, etc (NHRA only)

That's $750,000 in addition to CAL-LUCAS....what does DeFrank & Forest get, a fairly large decal on TOW VEHICLES.....seen by the world (sort of) instead of on blurred race cars going by....'ya need the sticker on your tow vehicle to gain entry to pits....large motor homes, tractors get larger stickers; stickers could have tag line: WE KNOW &LOVE OUR RACE CAR, cleaned & covered by CAL PRODUCTS and LUBED by LUCAS

What do we do with $750 large you ask? Hire Wesley, Rent good tracks, buy in a 4-6 car noise maker; unfortunately the nostalgia funny cars and rails are west coast based....I contend a "LA HOOKER" on nitro is just as, if not more popular than multiple corporate big name FC....tow money for 3 match race, and a year end point fund for attendance

'ya got the noise & smell for a two day event, and we partner with local car clubs as a mini Super Chevy or Swell Ford event....a crystal trophy (well plastic that looks like crystal)to replace the coveted Wally

Some sort of newsletter (Howell Printing) that we all look forward to by snail mail, or internet....commentary by in the know guys (Fletcher/Biondo) guys with the gift of gab, yadda yadda

Hell, I've got a lot of money tied up in a couple of race cars, whats $500/year to play with them

Make seats belts once every 5 years, no insurance surcharge to cover pros, assuming the track has insurance, maybe that covers a portion of the $500, maybe I'm way off

Besides the yearly $500, maybe a $100 entry fee, maybe gamblers race

I mentioned Wesley earlier, maybe just fly him or someone trusted at random, to spot check and keep us all on our toes

Or maybe not

Two more storms coming this weekend....as Schwartenegger said "I'll be back"

1320racer 02-14-2019 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John DiBartolomeo (Post 582303)
they’re continuing to push the sportsman racers further out the door.

How?

Rob Petrie E395 02-14-2019 08:54 PM

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Randall I'll put a sticker of whatever size necessary on the car wherever they deem necessary. Not on truck or trailer. Enough hassles with DOT. Stickers just draw attention and make you look like a commercial vehicle. Other wise I like your idea. Like you said. When you've spent this much. What's another $500 a year.

BobbyH 02-15-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 582455)
Just dreaming while snowed & iced in: NMCA is mostly east coast-midwest I think, but using that group as a foundation, we get an "entity" like CAL COVER/LUCAS OIL to agree to give some gravitas to an expanded organization, funded by 1500Class Racers at $500 per year

Nitro Joe stats has 2600 S, SS list, some duplicates and some will never kick in, not counting IHRA, etc (NHRA only)

That's $750,000 in addition to CAL-LUCAS....what does DeFrank & Forest get, a fairly large decal on TOW VEHICLES.....seen by the world (sort of) instead of on blurred race cars going by....'ya need the sticker on your tow vehicle to gain entry to pits....large motor homes, tractors get larger stickers; stickers could have tag line: WE KNOW &LOVE OUR RACE CAR, cleaned & covered by CAL PRODUCTS and LUBED by LUCAS

What do we do with $750 large you ask? Hire Wesley, Rent good tracks, buy in a 4-6 car noise maker; unfortunately the nostalgia funny cars and rails are west coast based....I contend a "LA HOOKER" on nitro is just as, if not more popular than multiple corporate big name FC....tow money for 3 match race, and a year end point fund for attendance

'ya got the noise & smell for a two day event, and we partner with local car clubs as a mini Super Chevy or Swell Ford event....a crystal trophy (well plastic that looks like crystal)to replace the coveted Wally

Some sort of newsletter (Howell Printing) that we all look forward to by snail mail, or internet....commentary by in the know guys (Fletcher/Biondo) guys with the gift of gab, yadda yadda

Hell, I've got a lot of money tied up in a couple of race cars, whats $500/year to play with them

Make seats belts once every 5 years, no insurance surcharge to cover pros, assuming the track has insurance, maybe that covers a portion of the $500, maybe I'm way off

Besides the yearly $500, maybe a $100 entry fee, maybe gamblers race

I mentioned Wesley earlier, maybe just fly him or someone trusted at random, to spot check and keep us all on our toes

Or maybe not

Two more storms coming this weekend....as Schwartenegger said "I'll be back"

It's amazing how common sense surfaces so infrequently........BRAVO


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