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Charley Downing 02-16-2019 11:52 AM

NHRA National Event Purse
 
Can someone show/tell me where I can find the National event purse payout. I have not seen one printed or online in a few years now.

Joe Martens 02-16-2019 12:42 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Try this, Charley.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...846&zoneid=175

SC363B 02-16-2019 01:06 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
FAKE NEWS. The advertised purse is based on 128 car field. When you only allow 60 cars the total payout drops to less than $7,000. I don’t know what the entry is but the actual payout looks terrible.

The Hawk 02-16-2019 01:11 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Look in a National Dragster from the 90`s, pretty much the same.

Charley Downing 02-16-2019 01:33 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Thanks Joe

This is the point I was trying to make how can NHRA advertise payouts based on 128 car fields when they limit the car counts to less then 64. False advertising
INDY is the only race of the NHRA Mello Yellow event schedule that comes close to 128 cars fields.
I did the math on The Winternationls last week and for STK and SS. NHRA took in (109 paying entry's out of 121 total entry's )$35520 in just entry fees (no crew tickets) from races and only paid out only $14,800 in purse money total for STK & SS, when there claiming somewhere near $27,600 purse money total . I'm not real good at math but that's missing your protection by around 50%.
The payout system is also based on a 7 round race which NHRA limits the car count so that can never be attained.

ssracer3821 02-16-2019 01:58 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 582676)
Look in a National Dragster from the 90`s, pretty much the same.

What were entry fees back then?

Charley Downing 02-16-2019 02:20 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
1976 Winternationals SS purse 48 car field plus class winner bumpins
$700 winner
$300 runner up
5 round looser $200
4 round looser $150
3 round looser$125
2 round looser $100
1st rounds looser $75

Event entry $75 with 1 full event crew pass
sponsor awards (contingency now a days) $200 for winner $100 for runner up eliminator
Estimated around $4000 in sponsor awards if you won the event

The Hawk 02-16-2019 02:31 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ssracer3821 (Post 582678)
What were entry fees back then?

A National Event was $200 I believe and included a crew pass. If you didn`t need the crew pass they would buy it back at the registration trailer for $50.

James Perrone 02-16-2019 03:11 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Charlie don’t forget $100 + of the $340 goes to insurance
For the helicopter in case one of the Pros need it
Nhra doesn’t count that part of our entry fee.
And unlike the pros I gotta pay for my crew. +$85.
Enhancements are rough

Charley Downing 02-16-2019 05:04 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
NHRA took in around $35000 for ins just at Pomona. I wonder what that 3 day Insurance policy looks like?

james schaechter 02-16-2019 06:27 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 582690)
NHRA took in around $35000 for ins just at Pomona. I wonder what that 3 day Insurance policy looks like?

Probably not as much as their catering bill.

CMcAllister 02-16-2019 07:39 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
I looked. I don't believe it's any more than what we were running for in the 90's. $13-15K if you had the car stickered halfway decent then. Do they cut W & RU for a 6 round race now?

fordteacherguy 02-16-2019 08:16 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Not sure what payout are now,

My RU in stock at the NW Nationals in 2015 paid $1200 from NHRA. With contingency I think I pulled in 3K for the day. Winners contingency paid $300 per sponsor/RU only $100. Probably could get 9-11K with a win and maxing out all sponsor contingencies available.

We sure don't do this for the money! But it was great memories,and worth every penny to play and to make it to the finals.

GUMP 02-16-2019 08:54 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 582690)
NHRA took in around $35000 for ins just at Pomona. I wonder what that 3 day Insurance policy looks like?

The NHRA paid right at $2.5 million for insurance in 2015. I got this number from their IRS filing. There isn't a breakdown, but I am sure that a large part of that is liability and workmans comp.

B Parker 02-16-2019 09:18 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
I would assume health insurance for their workers also. BP

63corvette 02-16-2019 09:20 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
I was told a few years back by a reliable NHRA employee who would know the facts that the sportsmans insurance payments covered the entire National event insurance costs.
That means the spectators that might be injured in some way, basically everyone inside the gates for the entire event.
It is not for the racers only as that coverage is only a excess coverage policy after your personal insurance is exhausted.
Just My 2 Cents

B Parker 02-16-2019 10:52 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Charlie as always I miss you guys and say hi to your Dad for me. Lets face it NHRA is not going to put anymore money in our purses unless somehow they are forced to. And I don't see that happening. We just need to get them to market us and see if we could attract some more sponsorship monies. There is a local indoor car show this month in the town I'm in. It's a small town but they get 10,000 plus people to pay admission to get in on a Saturday and Sunday. It's fifteen dollars a person and 5 to park. Plus food. At every race I've been to we have a greater car show than this one. BP

Mark Yacavone 02-16-2019 11:04 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
I know the insurance is a big expense. Last event I did at Wild Horse, I had to pay K&K $1200-1300 for just one day of Sportsman type racing .The first thing they wanted to know was if we were having any fuel cars. When I said no, they told me I was getting a much better price then.
So, as if we didn't know it, we're paying the heavy surcharge because of the fuelers.

Theoretically, if we were to split off from the Pro's , we'd be paying a smaller entry fee.
Ya think? ;-)

Adger Smith 02-17-2019 03:12 AM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
Unless something has changed. Insurance doesn't pay the Helo joy ride for sportsmen...Might a Pro... Might want to check into that insurance your paying for.
Unless they were picking on me and made me pay mine.
You might want your own policy to pay for what they don't. Never can tell when you will need it.

Quote Mark Y. "Theoretically, if we were to split off from the Pro's , we'd be paying a smaller entry fee.
Ya think? ;-)"
If you don't go you don't pay it.
Your choice...
Just saw this on my local track FB page..
There is a track 65 miles from my house paying out:
$2,000 win $400 Ru $100 semis and $50 Qtr in Super Pro with an $87 entry fee $40 buy back 1 or 2 round.
Also a Q-16 for $100 entry no buy backs pays $1000 Win and $400 Ru
7"0" and 6"0" Index classes pay each $2000 Win $300 Ru an $100 semi for a $87 entry $40 buy backs 1st or 2nd rd
All in one night. a guy could run SP, Q-16, & 6"0" index for $274 and run for a total win purse of $5000.
Only $354 if he has to use the 2 buy backs. Probably do it all in less than 20-25 laps, too.
If this is going on all over the country I'm taking it in the shorts supporting the NHRA pro's.
I think it is time to check my ego and go have some local fun.

CMcAllister 02-17-2019 01:15 PM

Re: NHRA National Event Purse
 
"We sure don't do this for the money!"

I hate to hear guys say this. NHRA loves this attitude. Their response is "Great!. We won't pay you." It implies that the Sportsman have no value. True, most don't rely on race winnings to put food on the table. But people work hard, invest a lot of money and bring a great show to the track every weekend. And they deserve an opportunity to race for a purse that is appropriate. The Company has all these marketing experts on the payroll, they need to figure out how to market this asset.

I won't hold my breath.

Clint 02-17-2019 02:17 PM

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woops


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