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SDT1DYI 02-26-2019 10:33 PM

Wheel Studs
 
Have Moser axles 5/8" 18 TPI RH knurl .685, pressed in studs. Need longer studs . Moser only offers 2 1/2" under the head length. Need 3 1/4". Looked on Summit / Jegs , ARP, others. Nothing in .685 knurl. Any racers run in to this and solved it, short of replacing the axles???

Steve Teeter STK 6380.

gsa612 02-26-2019 11:25 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Moroso has a 5/8 stud 3" # 46240 with a .672 knurl,or a 3" 1/2 stud with a .685 knurl #46190.Also M-W has a 4" drive stud kit in 5/8,but the hole in the axle is too big to tap at .685.The thread dia.is .625 for the 5/8 screw in stud. gsa612

SDT1DYI 02-26-2019 11:52 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
I will look at those part numbers, thks.

SDT1DYI 02-27-2019 12:00 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
46190. Is shown as a 1/2" 20 stud? I Need 5/8".

Steve Teeter. STK 6380

Alan Nyhus 02-27-2019 10:47 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
These won't work?

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/65152/10002/-1

gsa612 02-27-2019 01:43 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 583519)

Looks like these may work,the only thing is there a coarse thread (11) and yours are 18.Just have to get new nuts. gsa612

gsa612 02-27-2019 06:52 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
What type of rear wheel are you running?. gsa612

SDT1DYI 02-27-2019 08:35 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Bogarts came on the car. I purchased some Weld Pro Stars for a set of spare rim/tires. The Welds have a 1/2" thicker hub.
The 11 to 18 threads per inch change, could be the solution, need to understand how it effects the rim, and stud torque.

FED 387 02-27-2019 09:31 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
not sure if this will work but take a look at a Dorman 610-418 or GM 15725054 stud --these are used on GM duallies rear ends

gsa612 02-27-2019 10:35 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
When you put the bogarts on with the 5/8 studs that you have,is there a lot of space between the wheel stud hole and the stud.Does the wheel move back and forth?.The od.of the 5/8 stud is .625 ,and the hole if you were using a shank nut would be .685.The only nut that seems to be available for the 5/8 course stud is flat on the back were it presses against the wheel.The cars that I've seen using 5/8 studs are using a M-W stud kit,that has a 4" stud that threads in the axle flange.then there is about a 2". 685.bare shank in the center
that goes thru the wheel and is tight inside the hole.It then has a threaded portion that you put a spacer and nut on.The Jegs 5/8 course stud might be better suited for a circle track car with a steel wheel,were you would use a beveled nut to center it in the hole.See what you come up with and keep us posted. gsa612

SDT1DYI 02-27-2019 10:47 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Both the Dorman # unfortunately are .657 knurl diameter. The Moser are .685.

FED 387 02-28-2019 01:58 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
look at Speedway motors part #91005960--its a 5/8-11----- 4 inches long with a .685 knurled --you will haft change lug nuts but this should solve your problem --$13.99 set of 5--- now all you have to do is get the appropriate nuts--FED 387

Larry Hill 03-01-2019 08:15 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Or send the axles back and have them drilled and taped for the big studs.

jmcarter 03-01-2019 09:11 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
What Larry said...if you roam the pits you’ll note Stock Eliminator is about the only class you’ll even see many 1/2 inch studs. My car has a good 9 inch setup but surprisingly was built using the smaller studs, and after breaking two studs it was hard to even find some last weekend (thanks to Mike McMahan, the Valdosta r/u, for the loaners). Moser sells the whole 5/8 stud kit for $80 so is by far the way to go. Losing a rear slick is never a pretty picture.

SDT1DYI 03-01-2019 10:18 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Thanks for everyone's replys. I thinking I'm going to go the drill and tap the axles route . I want to keep the 5/8" 18TPI .
When ordering new axles, thread in studs is really the best way to go in my opinion.

Steve STK. 6380.

gsa612 03-01-2019 11:52 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
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The moser #8080 kit is the answer,same deal as the M-W but cheaper.It comes with 2 sets of spacers,long ones for the bogarts,short for the thicker welds.If you look at the unthreaded center the OD is larger so it fits in the wheel hole.They list it as 3'',but it should work. gsa612

340Cuda 03-01-2019 12:37 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
I hope I am wrong, but I think I have read somewhere that race axles can be very hard to drill and tap.

Mike Pearson 03-01-2019 12:45 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
I don't know about Moser but Strange will drill and tap their axles from 1/2 to 5/8 as long as the have not been welded on, Studs tacked etc. I had mine done by Strange about ten years ago and the cost was minimal. They fit the wheels perfectly when I got them back. Turn around was very quick as well.

Hacksaw 03-01-2019 02:20 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 583679)
I don't know about Moser but Strange will drill and tap their axles from 1/2 to 5/8 as long as the have not been welded on, Studs tacked etc. I had mine done by Strange about ten years ago and the cost was minimal. They fit the wheels perfectly when I got them back. Turn around was very quick as well.

Moser offers that service as well.

ss3011 03-01-2019 04:27 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Just asking , but if 5/8 is .625" and your axles have a .685 knurl , how do you tap them for a 5/8 stud ?

Coleydog 03-01-2019 04:29 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Quite a difference between 1/2 & 5/8,
Proof load for grade 2-5-8 for 1/2 stud = 8800-13600-19200
For 5/8 stud = 14100-21800-30700, a good 30% + - stronger across the board
I always heard not to use the grade 8 because it's to hard & brittle, use grade 5. Not sure what they use from Strange or Moser.

gsa612 03-01-2019 04:31 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 583679)
I don't know about Moser but Strange will drill and tap their axles from 1/2 to 5/8 as long as the have not been welded on, Studs tacked etc. I had mine done by Strange about ten years ago and the cost was minimal. They fit the wheels perfectly when I got them back. Turn around was very quick as well.

He's going to need 10 new holes indexed,drilled and tapped.The current knurled stud hole is bigger than a 5/8 threaded stud.Hope it don't have 1" lightening holes between the existing holes then your SOL. gsa612

gsa612 03-01-2019 04:36 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 583695)
Just asking , but if 5/8 is .625" and your axles have a .685 knurl , how do you tap them for a 5/8 stud ?

Post # 2 lol...gsa612

jmcarter 03-01-2019 05:30 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 583698)
Post # 2 lol...gsa612

My axles were drilled for both 1/2 and 5/8 screw in studs. The axle flange still isn’t the weakest link.

chris ok 03-03-2019 08:01 AM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Contact Mark Williams.
They solved my moser problems that moser just could not.
Many length 5/8 studs, washers, lugs and associated parts.

Run to Rund 03-06-2019 01:12 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Grade 8 is stronger across the board, including tensile. My Moser axles are tapped for 5/8" x 18 thread bolts, so I just buy long enough bolts. If the wheel hole is much bigger than 5/8", you could get sleeves or find studs with larger unthreaded areas. People who think grade 5 is better, why does ARP make bolts and lug nuts?

Coleydog 03-06-2019 04:42 PM

Re: Wheel Studs
 
Something like, the harder it gets the more brittle it becomes.


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