Question about Challenger 1320
 

A 2019 Challenger 1320 is in the guide as a FS/FSS car. Aren't they sold as street legal cars?
What determines whether a car runs FS or Stock?
A 2017 Hellcat runs Stock and yet a 2019 1320 runs FS and as far as I know they're both sold through Dealers as street legal cars.?.

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[QUOTE=Billy Nees;58448320 they're both sold through Dealers as street legal cars.?.[/QUOTE]

Well they are supposed to be but I have yet to see the 1320 show up on a dealer lot or on the Dodge online configuration tool.

I guess I have never fully understood what made a one car FS and another Stock.

Re: Question about Challenger 1320
 

The 1320 is a natural B/SA car at 390HP.. They have been delivered to some dealers. I looked at one at Fury Motors in South St Paul,MN Plum Crazy in color, very slick piece. I know a guy building one now.

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Is it that "Frito" guy building it ?

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Does seem odd it is listed as a FS car since it is a production line VIN car.

Maybe this listing is an error on NHRA's part ?

Or....did Dodge make the first move to submit a VIN car as a FS entry ?

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Everything I have read about the 1320 sounds impressive.
Pricing of those run about $ 44k and Dodge claims it will run 11's stock.

It's great seeing Dodge building fun cars in many packages and color choices

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I was looking at one in Vegas at Towbin Dodge on the
showroom floor this afternoon

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Geez John. Don't you have enough classes covered now? LOL

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What engine? My 2015 SRT (392-auto) with drag radials will run 11s
Mike

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485 hp 6.4L


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzdyefVuMbk

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Yep same engine, this car-engine has been available for 8 years, in 15 (Scat Pac-SRT) it went to the eight speed auto. It is a total blast to drive, very comfortable
and it gets 24 mpg. Very heavy car (4000 lbs+). These new cars are unbelievable, I had a 70-1/2 Z28 (new) and the best it every went was 13.90 and I thought it was fast.

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I learned today that the 1320s are not separate models but an available package on the SRT 392. Similar to the Demon in that you can delete the rear seat and get a passenger seat for $1.

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So..................why aren't they listed as Stockers instead of FS/ers?

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Where does it list that a car is traditional Stock or Factory Stock? I can't find anywhere that designates this difference.

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My best guess, and that is all it is, is that Factory Stock is for the cars that have less than 500 but more than 50 cars built. Which fits the Cobra Jets, COPOs and Drag Packs.

As far as the 1320 perhaps someone thinks there will not be 500 of them.

I certainly think there will be however I have yet to find one 150 miles from Tulsa using the Dodge inventory search.

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classracerinfo.com

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Billy, from the first line of the Classracerinfo site:

1) This is NOT an official NHRA or IHRA web site. The information here is not to be considered as official information or data for any racing association.

If you check the NHRA quide the 1320 is listed as a coupe 2 dr 1320. As far as I can tell, the Drag Pak's are all listed as Drag Pak in the guide. Then again, I could be wrong.

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Again, the "1320" is listed as a traditional automobile as a factory built passenger car available to anyone who would like to order or buy off the lot.. It fits in as a B/SA as a 392/390 horsepower NHRA factor. The class needs more new Dodge's in the field! There is one on the lot of Fury Motors in St. Paul, MN

Re: Question about Challenger 1320
 

If the new ( 85 % HP /85 % weight ) NHRA rule applied to new production line VIN vehicles, then the Dodge advertised 485 h.p. in the 1320 would equal 412 h.p NHRA factored h.p.

As it stands, the 390 NHRA fact. h.p. would be a 19.6 % decrease, not 15 %.
So, now I am not sure if it is a FS entry or a traditional Stocker deal



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What is the shipping weight?

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I found a weight of 4158 pounds--not sure if that is curb or shipping

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As a point of reference, the 2013 Challenger RT is listed as a traditional Stocker with a shipping weight of 3,600 lbs. as per the guide and the 392 cu.in. engine is factored @ 380 h.p.
This combo does appear to have the 85 % rule applied for the shippiing weight ( 4,235 lbs. x .85 = 3600 )

The 15-17 Hellcats are listed at 4,500 lbs and factored at 600 h.p....also a traditional Stocker.
NHRA applied the 85 % rule on the Hellcat h.p. ( 707 x .85 = 600 hp)

However, they did not apply the 85 % rule to the Hellcat's shipping weight.
If they had, the new shipping weight would have been 3,825 lbs. and the HC would be a 6.375 lb./hp combo

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Delivered our first one today. It's basically a Hellcat with the 392. It has to be ordered with the left seat and the rear @ 1$ each. Shipping is 3400 or 200 less than the other challengers. The HP is 390 and the original was 380 which after Helms worked on it, is now 402. Big ole wide radials, and some other available stuff. If you do the math, it is right at the bottom of C/S or C/SA. Nice car. I might look good driving that thing.

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Maybe you guys can figure this one out ...Factory rated 485hp and in the guide at 390 ? What % is that ?



From the FCA website

2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320: Beware of the Angry Bee at the Drag Strip

Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 Is a Drag-oriented, Street-legal Muscle Car Designed With the Grassroots Drag Racer in Mind

• Named for the quarter-mile distance (1,320 feet), the Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 is powered by the stalwart 392 HEMI® V-8 that delivers 485 horsepower and 475 lb.-ft. of torque and is mated to the legendary TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission, delivering reliable and cost-effective performance – run after run
• Infused with exclusive drag strip technology from the iconic Dodge Challenger SRT Demon, the Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 is a blank canvas for the serious grassroots drag racer with standard features, including SRT-tuned Adaptive Damping Suspension with Drag Mode, Line Lock, TransBrake, Torque Reserve and extreme-duty 41-spline half shafts
• Standard interior features a driver’s seat only to help reduce weight; front passenger seat and rear seat are available as individual $1 options
• Specially developed Nexen SUR4G Drag Spec 275/40R20 street-legal drag radial tires deliver maximum grip and offer repeatable quarter-mile times
• Quarter-mile (1,320 feet) elapsed time (E.T.) of 11.7 seconds at 115 mph makes the showroom-stock 2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 the fastest naturally aspirated, street-legal muscle car available

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Re: Question about Challenger 1320
 

Jeff, that would be the passenger seat or the right hand seat as I look at it that has to be ordered for the $1.00 price, the rear seat also for $1.00. The "1320"s are being delivered now. To find one on the Dodge web site, they will listed as a Scat Pak Challenger with the "1320" option.

Re: Question about Challenger 1320
 

Two things to make it better, the shift fart and rev limiter. From what I understand, it retards timing at the up shift causing the "fart sound" and holding in whatever gear it will just lay over I think at 5700 rpm. A chip will address those items but warenty is out the door if it breaks. Pistons-rods suck so limited might be a good thing. Again a blast to drive, better than the 60s cars by a lot.

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Do they come off the lot with a 9" Ford rear end in them these days? I hear that's common for cars in traditional stock and Factory Stock...

Heck, rumor is they even come with GM Turbo 400 transmissions too! Before you know it these DODGE cars will just be a body with competitive drive-trains...