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I see more and more racecars with no contingency decals. Most are running Stock,but some SS cars also. Just wondering why? It is free money if you win. Please don't tell me it is hard to collect. I would say 90 % of most companies pay within a few months.You have to run the NHRA Lucas oil decal, so why not a few more?

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most don't win so why sticker it up.

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^^ this


I'm one of them.
I've never gotten past 3rd round in NHRA :(

I didn't sticker up at an NMRA race last September.
Didn't think I was going to win. Got lucky and did.
Should have slapped them on at least for the duration of the event....

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Or ..... Its not only what you do, but how you do it! Form over function.....
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A few extra sheckles when you won did not affect my bottom line. Was in the red regardless and style was more important to me. I always felt it was better for the class and didn't care what everyone else did. I paid ALL my own bills, ran a few decals for those that helped me and my race car was ALWAYS a labor of love. Need passion for the sport and loving your car helps.

https://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...psimiydovy.jpg

Others opinions may vary, Just answering the OP's question here!

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I love the clean and/or showroom fresh look, but I always paid attention to who was paying, held my nose and stickered the car accordingly. I just didn't want to leave a bunch of money on the table if I did go to the final.

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Car looks a lot better without them.

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With a lot of companies requiring a purchase within the past three years, contingency became irrelevant in a lot of cases. Its nice to get money when you do get that far though.

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For Example I see Randi Lyn Shipp's Firebird stocker has won a few events this year & only visible contingency decal is Mickey Thompson tires. Guess likes the clean look or does not need the $$$ or trouble to chase manufactures

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with many racers complaining about the costs to compete at this level, it's just foolish not to sticker up if you have the car and the skills to win.

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You have to admit, your white Firebird looks pretty nice without any stickers. Big back tires, big wheelies, and still looks like a street car, from the standpoint of being "clean". That's what some racers like.

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It did, because it was a bracket car, not anymore. It's stickered up and looks good, just different. No big wheelies anymore either.

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Some of us don't have many things that new on our cars. Other than oil, valve springs & tires.

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I have lots on my car and would remove them if I could. Unfortunately after such a long time the glue has leached into the paint and turned things yellow underneath.

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I just checked the contingency requirements:

https://www.nhra.com/competition/con...ReqContingency

I could legally and ethically claim four products on the contingency list.

I'd rather have the clean "Stock" appearing look than the money that I would get "if" I won a race.

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No decals, the car is still under construction and hasn't been to paint yet.
Since I could only claim 4 also no way I'm putting them on a new paint job.
Maybe on the windows, does that count?

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I seem to buy the product that doesn't have a contingency at the time of purchase, but then a year or so later they offer a contingency and want a receipt and a W9 within that calendar year. So to save myself any agrivation, I usually will not put stickers on the car.
The car is street legal and don't want to keep putting stickers on and then trying to figure on how to getting them off.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

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I would use a good quality magnetic tape if you don't need a lot of decals.This way if you win you get paid,and if you get tired of the look remove them. gsa612

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T shirt 'em. Pull the backing off. put the decal on your T shirt to collect some lint, apply. Takes some of the "stick" away. Hair dryer to get them off and WD40 to clean up any adhesive for the ones that are stuck fast.

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A hair dryer will loosen them right up.

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I dont get it. Run Lucas Oil and Fluids and Tires of your choice is an extra $1200 bucks. Everybody needs a Helmet Simpson pays another $300. Sunoco you got to have gas too Bam another $300. Not hard to collect. They email you a w9 you email it back. You guys have way too much money if that's a hassle.

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^^ this

WD-40 works great at removing the residual glue.
Hair dryer also aids in removal. It took several hours but I got all the vinyl decals and stickers off of the hood, roof, and sides of my Stocker after I bought it.

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Twenty five years ago when no decals was unheard of. Same today except for occasional nostalgia races where lettering is required . Easy remove vinyl. Craig said he liked the clean look . Actually he said more but I can't repeat it.

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I like my car now verses then, these are 2 pictures about 40 years apart, one at Indy and the other WPB. I guess I didn't have any decal on the car then either. I tried the magnetic decals, but my friends would turn them upside down or after a run I'd be missing the matching pair.

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Ed,what class are You running with Your Firebird now? Beautiful car BTW

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My Firebird, will be competing in Super Street next season.

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I'm curious about the cars that paint the decal on the car in different colors to match the paint. Do the manufacturers still honor them?Some of Bucky's cars come to mind.

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As many here will remember, back in the old days, MOST drag cars had lots of stickers, a car name on the doors, & sponsor name on the rear fenders. Most cars were referred to by their name. I still do that, for the cars I remember from those days. Example: My first Pontiac drag racing hero was Truman Fields. I still refer to his car as the "Hard Times" Firebird. Another favorite was the "Tons-a-Fun" '72 Lemans wagon. I'm sure that lots of us old timers could call lots of cars by the name they had on the sides.

To me, it just didn't look like a race car without stickers. I still like stickers & names. If I wanna see a plain paint job on an old car, I can just go to a car show. A race car should look like a race car, not a show car, IMO.

Different strokes.

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I've re-quoted something I heard from a smarter racer than myself, several times. This doesn't mean every word is the Gospel. But, it strikes a chord with me. For years I played decal roulette and just couldn't justify. Here's what the guy said (I think). "IF you win the class or eliminator AND IF you check legal AND IF the contingency sponsor has posted for the event AND IF you have had the sponsor's decal on for the entire event AND IF you have the receipt for the product posted for AND IF the product purchase wasn't over (blank years) ago AND IF you can prove you were using it AND IF you wait for months and months, YOU MIGHT GET SOME MONEY!

Don't want to be branded a drug user,... don't do drugs. Don't want an abortion,... don't get one. Don't want to conceal carry a weapon, DON'T DO IT! If you like cars with a bunch of contingency decals on it...… Put them on YOUR car. Comments about your opinions of other racers intelligence don't help. Etc, Etc, Etc,

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I kinda of like Decals, BUT does a racer get paid for having the decal on the car all the time at every race all year long? The racer is advertising for the product not just for one race when he wins is a sore subject for me .We advertise for the product all the time but only get paid one time if we win and then it is a hassle to get the money <to me the hassle it takes just to get the small amount of money for advertising all year long it is almost not worth the hassle as a result there are fewer and fewer decals on race cars and i suspect there will be be and less decals on cars not worth the ROI just
venting

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we must be doing something wrong because we have a stack of contingency sponsor checks from the 3 finals my son has been in so far this season, waiting to be deposited, with more on the way from his win at Maple Grove.

https://i.imgur.com/RBIyP89.jpg

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My biggest regret this week, is that Ed O'Brien is no longer with us, so he could get amnesty and a reprieve too. Say what you will, but at least he was an entertaining guy.
;-)

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Look back in2003-6 IHRA contingency ,they post payout in an area on site,Example Dan Fletcher won a super stoc

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IHRA 2005 Canadian nats Cayuga ,example winner of SS,Dan Fletcher,he has many decals on car,his contingency for the win was approx $11g,s,look it up now collecting is another animal,most were good payers,So to sticker or not,,,cont. money way down these days I cant cancel post below disregard

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[QUOTE=1320racer;598000]we must be doing something wrong because we have a stack of contingency sponsor checks from the 3 finals my son has been in so far this season, waiting to be deposited, with more on the way from his win at Maple Grove.

https://i.imgur.com/RBIyP89.jpg[/QU

Isn't 1320racer a .90 racer? - why is he continually on the stock/superstock site? - wasn't he banned from classracer for causing trouble a few months ago? Does he just need a new audience to brag to??

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Not only that but he was an expert on everything and anything! All you had to do is ask (or not) and he would set you straight! I actually felt sorry for him. It must be difficult maintaining such perfection! Ah yes, thinking of old Ed O'Cryin today.Jim

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You can afford to race when you lose - so the choice is simple you can afford to race when you win.

Either way without decals the cost is the same - a pittance in contingency money - because of the hassles - it makes it a personal preference on the look of the car - not money.

We run a few - ones without proof of recent purchase - if the product is good and lasts - why require me to spend more money than the contingency amount - to get paid.

We won class recently and received money from all but one - I was told that it was a mistake by NHRA - and they did not need to pay - the others did because they are stupid I guess. This particular sponsor should have paid $100 - maybe as a good will gesture but they did not - after all we had only just spent $1600 with them.


Ron

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got our 1st contingency sponsor check yesterday from the Mopar Express Lube Nationals, what a hassle, we had to wait 6 days :D

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[QUOTE=1320racer;598000]we must be doing something wrong because we have a stack of contingency sponsor checks from the 3 finals my son has been in so far this season, waiting to be deposited, with more on the way from his win at Maple Grove.



"waiting to be deposited" LOL.

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don't need the $ to race :p

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Congratulations Kyle, good to see theres one winner in the family.