Protest at Joliet?
 

Last week there was talk of a stocker getting protested if it shows up at Joliet. Did the car show up?

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Yes it did and it was. Owners refused to tear down and went home. The ones protesting got their money back, $750.

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What is the process now? Does the car have to go through teardown before it can race anywhere again?

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Can u really just say no thanks and go home?
Crazy wonder who this was?

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I think you get 6 month or 1 year vacation, maybe a fine too.

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Well, I won’t name names.....you know Mark Yacavone has taught me to be politically correct....I will say it was OUR D 3 ALL STAR rep .....by the rules he should have a nice 365 day vacation to think this over...

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Ryan Rudrick

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If he was the rep did they not just tear him down? They used to tear down all reps

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Brad Z is the current rep.

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Not in stock this year

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He was torn down for the All Stars... look at the et’s ran that weekend vs every other race he’s been to since the beginning of 2018, -.10 under that weekend vs -70 to -80 under every other weekend including a 10.72 in D/SA during Q1 at Joliet this weekend.

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You can FOOL some of the people some of the time, but not ALL of the people ALL of the time...He had the OPPORTUNITY to tear down and prove his legality but.......

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Oh great, now you are dragging Brad Z into this...

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I agree, thought not tearing down when protested was not even an option.
Knew All-stars reps were down but wasn’t sure on what car. Ought to be a fun Monday-Tuesday in Glendora!😜🤪😳

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Just advising that the racer in question isn’t the current rep and therefore wouldn’t have automatically been torn down before Joliet.

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I believe you are incorrect, Jim. Hairrington beat Rudrick 1st round of the all-stars.

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They used to get 1 year off. Don't know what the hell NHRA does these days !

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I stand corrected, so he would have torn down for the all-stars which makes it even more strange. Not as strange as Woodburn but still...and yes it will be interesting to see what comes out on Monday and Tuesday.

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Cheating SOB. All he had to do was by a motor from Parsons and Myers. Now he won’t ever be able to show his face.

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Well, he was given the option to leave before the protest was filed. Go home, fix it and bring it back legal and save face with nothing said. He turned that down.

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Greg, what was being protested? Was it by chance the wrong displacement? Or perhaps the illegal intake. Since he didn't go to Parsons, who did the engine?

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What's his heads up record with the bracket engine. If they did not come apart they cheated all of us. The number two racer in all star points got hosed. The number 129 qualifier last week at Indy watched while he made the show. With that combo, 340 AVS, cheating not needed.

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I've never met Ryan but I know he's pretty young and apparently a third generation racer. Maybe he didn't know how to tear his car down. It's not like the car was a world beater to begin with. I'd withhold judgment until you hear the other side. Half you guys throwing stones are cheating anyway 😄

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apparently he knew how to tear it down at the All Star race

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He should just get his dad to call NHRA and have it all go away!!

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Last time I checked, if YOU refuse tear down.....you earn a year vacation. He is a young man, matter of fact I place most of this on his DADDY s shoulders....They just tore down the end of MAY....must be a SLOW learner ...huh ?????

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The next time I get pulled apart NHRA may not like something I did . Maybe I'm .001 to much lift or a cc big or little. A lot of us try to walk the knife's edge, trying to get what can be gotten within the rules. Like Jason LIne said it's all part of the game and part of the rules. If your legal take there money, if not go home and dream of what might have been. A set of gaskets is just as important as a tire gage you don't want to leave the eather one at the shop. Class racers are not as pure as Ivory soap, but most are legal.

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Mick & Jackie Alley told me all JEGS reps were tore down at the All Star race, thats why she couldnt drive anyone elses car as hers was broke

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Well if thats the case I'm going to protest Ron Seibenick LOL

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NHRA and the competitor being protested came to an agreement at the event which was a refusal of tear down at Joliet and being disqualified for the event and losing points. They agreed that the competitor has to come to the next event with one head off for inspection.

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I would be very surprised if Travis would go for that if he was there. I would also be very surprised if the people who protested him would agree to that. It’s my understanding if you don’t tear down you’re out for a year and then have to show up with the head off.

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Is the car going to run a tenth under like the all-stars for that race then speed back up to .70 under for the next?

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Refusal to teardown should be an automatic year off, no if, and or but about it. Show up to the next race with a head off....you gotta be kidding me!

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Greg, Travis was not there. And you are right, we wanted to see that engine torn down not their "other" engine. Plain and simple he should have a suspension, 6 months or a year that doesn't matter. If a suspension is given then the matter will be closed. But if no suspension, then why have any rules at all.

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Mr Brand you are correct.
There was a large group of racer's and engine builders in div 3 and div 5 that have been questioning this car’s performance for some time now. After it’s less then Steller showing at the AllStar race were he knew he had to be torn down, he only manage to run -.20 under his index and 5-6 MPH less than he had been going the past two seasons. But by some miracle after the Allstar race he was right back to 10.70’s at 122-123 MPH with 1.48-1.49 sixty foots times for a D/SA car.
Mopar 340 (Ryan) you’re not fooling anyone
Your right you tried to pull that B.S. with the new division director. Your B.S. excuse last weekend about not having tools to tear down your own car was pathetic and a slap in the face to all those that follow the rules.
I believe the 20 or so people that have called and emailed NHRA Tech in the past two days will put a stop those shenanigans. Have fun waiting for your NHRA letter with your suspension. Which you earned by the way. The real looser in this deal is young racer Austin Alvey who raced his butt off last year spending hard earned money and time traveling only to have his chance to race the jeg’s allstars taken away by someone who has no respect for himself or the class. You are a disgrace to the class and those who play by the rules.
And yes Ryan before you can race Stock eliminator again you will haft to come with a cylinder head off and a rod and piston out because that’s is what the group of us protested you for. you can bring your 11.40 jegs Allstar motor for that tare down you know that will pass tech.
It will just be next summer not BG.

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Cool! We could use the money ;)

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If I had your money I could burn mine. LOL

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Well said Charlie Bob. If NHRA is gonna allow just the head next race you stocker folks
Need to put on a show for D3. management and boycott next race.
Only a fool would race against an illegal car again.
Keep the pressure on pleases an example need to be made

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We are looking forward to the next Podcast from Aaron and Chuck

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I think a d4 or d7 A/S racer refused teardown and he got a year off. What if anything has changed? Or is it the racer in question has to come to each race for a year with the head off, get checked, then get ready to race.