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Looking at the west coast Q sheet they must be having a sale on 302 hp gifted fords ... cmon guys there’s enough of y’all to get some HP hits if ya stand on em 😎👍 ... hey just having fun (but really one one guy -1....) 😎👍

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Man, if I didn't have sooooo much stuff and it wasn't sooooo far, I'd move out there just to hang with those guys! It seems like they still really like "different" in D-6.
I'll bet that they like Cuervo too!

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I'm tellin' ya ! Not as many 69 Camaros as in Div 1.

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Maverick will be out of body shop next week. Back in D7

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D6 FordDudes all say Thank You. The Usual Suspects will see you soon.

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Billy, it looked like Mr Mantle had a rubber ball under the go pedal.

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Aside from all the 302 Fords when was the last time you saw a ‘66 Impala ragtop running in stock ? Also loved the ‘70 Camaro in M running 12 o’s with a 2bbl combination. Lots of diversity out there in D6 !

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Dick Simon,.......he ‘s back ...................almost ...............

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I know that this doesn't have anything to do with the D-6 Racers but it does have to do with diversity. Want to see more diversity in S/SS again? Let Class Winners all automatically back in at Indy!

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66 ragtop was once in Louisville Charlie Smith had it

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Sure..but not just Indy. Anywhere with Class. 60 car fields too. Have to dial 3 tenths under in eliminator. Either that, or lower indexes 3 tenths....

Look out! INCOMING!!

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I counted possibility of about 35 class winners at indy, that's excluding singles for class (leaving combo's). You would certainly get more diversity if class winners automatically got in elims. Fill rest of field with top qualifiers, then you might gets some heads up action!

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Come on out Billy. We have everything from COPO Camaros to Pinto Wagons. Good racing and good people all over the place. You just might like it.

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I never agreed with the change they made not allowing class winners entry into the field.....

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I count 65 classes in Stock.
I think what they don’t want is to have 1 car in class be able to get into the
eliminator if per say he only runs 3 under when other cars go 85 under and
don’t get in. Kinda of a double edge sword.

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I agree with what you're saying about "what they don't want" BUT, if a RACER in one of "their" Classes beats another Racer in the same Class, shouldn't that Racer be rewarded with a spot in the field at "their" most prestigious Race where ALL Classes are supposed to be on display no matter how fast he goes?
Let's be honest here, there are certain Classes that have combos in them that can go much faster than the combos available in other Classes so why should a Racer who wins his Class be "bounced" out of the field by a 1ST RD loser from a different Class? No matter HOW fast he goes against the index.

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You might be right, Pete , but nobody told anyone that they had to build an A/SA "chaser" car. If they didn't get in by winning class, who's fault would it be ?

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I agree with you Billy if their are 2 cars in class, The Class Winner should get in.
However if only 1 car in class, than i think it’s up for debate if he should get in,
unless they made a rule saying that car has to run at least 8 under their index.

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If their is only 1 car in the class it would go into the combo be it stick or auto.So the winner of each combo would get in?. gsa612

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I agree with Billy and Mark. In many classes there is nothing that fits the class that could possibly run .90 under the index.

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“ In the effort to insure each class is represented the Eliminator field shall be comprised of the class winners and then filled with the fastest qualifiers not winning thier class “

Wally’s grave wasn’t patted down yet when the $$$$$ whiners had that **** tossed out 😡😡😡

Captain

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Getting compicated....:o

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Exactly how it should be and the only question is how many cars make up the field.

And all class winners do a std teardown.....pull a head....

From a guy who was there in 1966 and did make it to the final of class and did pull a head......and got thrown out along with the class winner....

It was the most prestigious event there was.....PERIOD...

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Befor they did away with class winners being put into the eliminator it was required to run 5 under to get in

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I counted 35 class winners and 9 classes with 1 car in its class.
So if those 9 were in the combo class to get 1 winner you only have
36 class winners out of 128 spots.
That leaves 92 spots for fastest qualifiers.
So yeah i would have to agree, let all class winners in !!

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The entry list doesn't tell the whole story several are listed inthe wrong class and more than a few will move up or down class to avoid racing the combo or avoid another competitor

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The bye runs for a class trophy was a joke and should have been done away with and was.

How many people have a pile of class winner Wally's and never raced anyone....nothing but bye runs......and seeded into eliminations...

If the class is that odd or unpopular it should not even be a class.....to many classes anyway...…

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Unless they are cheating some what !

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Exactly. I think the combo makes sense
You have to earn the Class Wally not just show up
What’s funny these are the same people that “Don’t Want The 120 under Trigger”

Unless you run some bogus under factored combo.
I wonder what #1 qualifier will be.......Definitely something NoT A Race Car

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Last year's number 1 was a race car (truck)
Maybe you better define "race car" for the sake of this discussion

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Markie, I thing James used the wrong wording. I think it should be " cars with bogus HP factors". When I ran the gremlin I was originally factored at 160 hp. I got 5 hp off then 5 hp more, which I think was reasonable for a 6 cylinder with a carb that flowed 287 cfm. Then the FFFFords were given the gift of God and poof.Only my humble opinion.

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Mark,
I think real race cars run 10.50 and quicker.

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Where is the real Bob Shaw and what have you done to him??????

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10.50 in the eighth

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If the vehicle is in the guide then it is a race car/truck, right?? Not everyone can afford a $100,000 race car. The diversity of the cars is what keeps Stock interesting. Whether it is a Pinto wagon, Malibu station wagon or a Chevy or Dodge truck have fun with it. Work on it until it is FAST.

Yes, some combos are FAST because of the H.P. rating and that needs to be fixed.

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I'm with the crowd that believes ALL class winners should be in the eliminator and then fill the rest of the field with quickest qualifiers from there. ALL classes with single entries goes into Auto or Stick combo classes to get a single car in as and "automatic" qualifier.

This only matters at INDY (unless I'm unaware of another race they let in over 128 cars).

Every class winner to be torn down with R-up to follow in tear down if and only if winner is found to be illegal.

to include this new cylinder head enforcement to the mix... I think if the cylinder heads are brought back in line with the rules the indexes don't need changing.. start enforcing the rules already written and the cars won't be going 1.2+ under unless they're failing tear down after.

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Well at least someone commented on where my post was going.

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A race car is something with 8 spark plugs.
Rear wheel drive. Not a 2 barrel.
It’s a CAR. That sound badass.
Not some soft POS that can go 2 seconds under.
Basically the crap you call a race car.

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Hey! Buddy!

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Now we know what a race car is.. I didn't realize that they don't have to be fast.