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Darrel Goheen 09-06-2019 12:25 AM

4th Gen F Body V6
 
Is a 4th gen f body with the 231 V6 a good combo?

JakeB23 09-16-2019 03:15 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
I have also kicked this idea around, since we still have my wife's car from High School, and its in great shape.

The biggest problem I have, is that its a bear to work on, with the engine so far under the cowl. Maybe some racers with this type can shed some light on this.

Mike Gray 09-16-2019 05:22 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeB23 (Post 597769)
I have also kicked this idea around, since we still have my wife's car from High School, and its in great shape.

The biggest problem I have, is that its a bear to work on, with the engine so far under the cowl. Maybe some racers with this type can shed some light on this.

I just put new heads on my sons car without removing the engine and drive train out the bottom.
just pull the radiator, and sway bar and you can stand in the engine compartment In front of the motor. (If your not too large) After you leave off the unnecessary brackets and accessories it should be fairly easy work on. Didn't even remove the hood, you need some shade when working in there.

Mark Yacavone 09-17-2019 11:40 AM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 596870)
Is a 4th gen f body with the 231 V6 a good combo?

Which one?

ss3011 09-17-2019 03:37 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
I think the 3.8L Series II engine is a good pick . Doesn't Harry Doolittle run one in his Firebird ?

Darrel Goheen 09-18-2019 01:04 AM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 597827)
Which one?

3.8L Series II is what I was looking at. Thanks.

GTOMayhem 09-18-2019 05:58 AM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 597862)
3.8L Series II is what I was looking at. Thanks.


Lee Norton, the Racer Tees guy, ran a Firebird with a 3800 for awhile.



Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

Mark Yacavone 09-18-2019 10:52 AM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 597862)
3.8L Series II is what I was looking at. Thanks.

Yes , I realize that..1995 and newer..but there's more than one combo in F body cars.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/

jimmyparker 09-18-2019 12:54 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Ronnie Temento from Louisiana has an N/SA Firebird with this combo and he has been in the 11.80's before. The car is for sale on RJ.

ss3011 09-19-2019 12:42 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
I see what Mark is asking about , one is rated at 185 and the other rated at 200 . It maybe that the FWD version is rated different .

Mike Gray 09-19-2019 02:19 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
FWD version? Okay I'm not much of a GM guy the Camaro I was working on was a 2000 3.8 V6 is that a considered a 4th Gen?

ss3011 09-19-2019 05:06 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Gen 4 F-body went from 1993 to 2002 . The 2000 F-body has one version of the 3.8L , it's rated at 200 hp . In the classification tech sheets there are two 3.8L engines listed for the 2001/2002 F-body . Looks like the only difference is the compression ratio. The higher compression engine is rated at 200 hp . The 3.8L in the FWD Monte Carlo is rated at 200 hp.

Darrel Goheen 10-17-2019 10:36 AM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
I am still considering swapping my LT1 for the 3800 (3.8L) engine in my 95 Camaro. I cannot find anywhere whether the LT1 and RWD 3800 has the same trans mounting configuration. Also will the 3800 work with the K member that I have? Thanks.

Mark Yacavone 10-17-2019 12:54 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 599930)
I am still considering swapping my LT1 for the 3800 (3.8L) engine in my 95 Camaro. I cannot find anywhere whether the LT1 and RWD 3800 has the same trans mounting configuration. Also will the 3800 work with the K member that I have? Thanks.

No . It has the FWD pattern. You'd need a not too common FWD pattern 200 case, used in early 2.8 or 2.5 applications..Good luck finding one.
I believe the cradle will work with the long V6 engine mounts.

The 185 hp version looks better to me on paper, if you're not in a hurry..No pistons approved.

countrypuppy4865 10-17-2019 06:44 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
K member would work but would require custom motor mounts. V6 cradle is different than LT1 and LS1 is also different.

ss3011 10-17-2019 07:03 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 599938)
No . It has the FWD pattern. You'd need a not too common FWD pattern 200 case, used in early 2.8 or 2.5 applications..Good luck finding one.
I believe the cradle will work with the long V6 engine mounts.

The 185 hp version looks better to me on paper, if you're not in a hurry..No pistons approved.

Might have one of those 200 THM cases , if you are interested .

Darrel Goheen 10-17-2019 10:19 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
Thanks for all the help everyone. I guess the first step after deciding to do it is finding an engine.

Darrel Goheen 10-17-2019 10:21 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body LT1 to V6 Swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 599963)
Might have one of those 200 THM cases , if you are interested .

Thanks. I'll let you know if I need one and can't find one locally.

ss3011 10-17-2019 10:25 PM

Re: 4th Gen F Body V6
 
I have an engine too .


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