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MR DERBY CITY 11-01-2019 08:37 PM

Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
I am out of the loop, what exactly is a counterfeit product decal ??

Jeff Hairrington 11-01-2019 09:02 PM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
misrepresentation would be a better word..don't have any counterfeit decals..

GUMP 11-01-2019 09:15 PM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
Sorry to hear this Dude. I have to question the logic of this particular "action". The whole idea of this sticker deal is to sell product. My opinion is that you gave some free press. But, what do I know?

jamie2370 11-01-2019 09:43 PM

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HR9121 11-01-2019 10:42 PM

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I think we all know the real reason here, if they don't pay out the money they get to keep it. Now we all know Jeff is a bona fide cheater for real now!!! 😂

james schaechter 11-02-2019 05:12 AM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 600872)
I find it to be a REALLY stupid decision by NHRA. I see alot of cars with Lucas Oil decals that pay contingency, but how many of those people actually have Lucas Oil in their car? I think it would be fair to say that 80% of winners claim contingency for a product that may not be on their car at the time of claim. If they want to crack down on things like this that's fine, but DON'T pick and chose who!! OK.. rant over


Lucas, like some others, require you to “buy in” to qualify each year as do some others. I don’t think they care if you drink it as long as you bought enough product each year. Many contingent items are like that. I think it gets tricky when they pay and don’t require proof of purchase. This used to be crazy when more contingency was paid out.

I wish NHRA put as much thought into expanding advertising opportunities with companies to enhance the contingency program as they do looking for ways to not pay. They don’t understand racers or businesses. There is a lot of opportunity to improve the program.
NHRA only wants big big players and then they suck the value out of it for them and they leave.

Larry Hill 11-02-2019 08:39 AM

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"Jeff has been suspended from the program for the next two contingency opportunities. " From NHRA Racer.

So If Jeff wins the next two races he enters does he at least get the prize money? Or is that only the next two axle shootouts?

HR9121 11-02-2019 09:37 AM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 600884)
"Jeff has been suspended from the program for the next two contingency opportunities. " From NHRA Racer.

So If Jeff wins the next two races he enters does he at least get the prize money? Or is that only the next two axle shootouts?

The way he explained it to me last night is he will win the purse but can't collect any contingency money.

1347 11-03-2019 09:56 AM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 600872)
I find it to be a REALLY stupid decision by NHRA. I see alot of cars with Lucas Oil decals that pay contingency, but how many of those people actually have Lucas Oil in their car? I think it would be fair to say that 80% of winners claim contingency for a product that may not be on their car at the time of claim. If they want to crack down on things like this that's fine, but DON'T pick and chose who!! OK.. rant over

Maybe I'm completely in the dark, But I don't really believe 80% of racers are scamming, claiming contingency for products they don't run. I have removed and added fuel and tire decals from race to race to adhere to the rules. And know other people do the same thing,

I thought the contingency program was to reward racers for using their products on their race car, not payment for advertising. If that was the case every decal would be on every car to get the most money..

james schaechter 11-03-2019 04:44 PM

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I bought product and stickered up only to find out the nimrod at NHRA had the posted list wrong. I think we need a posting for “ Statement of Action against Association” LOL.

Even though they acknowledged it was wrong, they never updated it.

James Perrone 11-03-2019 05:09 PM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 600872)
I find it to be a REALLY stupid decision by NHRA. I see alot of cars with Lucas Oil decals that pay contingency, but how many of those people actually have Lucas Oil in their car? I think it would be fair to say that 80% of winners claim contingency for a product that may not be on their car at the time of claim. If they want to crack down on things like this that's fine, but DON'T pick and chose who!! OK.. rant over

You know what’s really stupid is your total statement
We are lucky there are companies that pay the contingency $$
Otherwise we are racing for $1500 And this is another reason for companies to not participate . I try and purchase the products that pay Its all we got and you think it’s ok to screw someone out of $$ there giving away . This year at Maple Grove cars in the semi final where checked real close for parts claimed. So this is the new normal. No more SHOPLIFTING contingency It was ok till you get caught

jamie2370 11-03-2019 06:52 PM

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James Perrone 11-04-2019 04:39 PM

Re: Counterfeit contingency decals....
 
Some people you just can’t reach!
And we have that someone.I have nothing against your bro Jeff were good
Your statements are dumb and ignorant.
Read what I said!,,, We need sponsors contingency it’s the way we get paid
Go big bucks bracket racing if you want purse payback
Again this is what pisses sponsors of because people have been getting caught
Get it. Common sense please.


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