Stocker in Super Stock
 

Always wondered out of curiosity how can a Stocker be allowed to run with Super Stock ?

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Because a Super Stocker can be "exotic" to the limits of the Super Stock rules, and a Stocker is far less "exotic", and therefore, doesn't approach being illegal, by the Super Stock rules. The Stocker is always "under" the limits. if a Stocker can run the index, it can race in Super Stock.

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IMO. Have never thought a entry built to race in Stock, should be allowed to race in SS. Just taking advantage of a loophole in the rules. Flame on !

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Most times they fit and can be close to the stock index without having to change too much. Luckily for me I wanted to race at the epping national, stock was full so I got into super stock. Went a few rounds in ss/pa.... 12.65 index, usually run p/sa at a 13.45 index.

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Exactly what LOOPHOLE are you referring to ? Obviously the engine and trans are legal.....if the safety equipment meets superstock specs then the car is a .superstocker ....Ernie Neal proved you don’t have to race with 14 x 32 s to race superstock....

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Most stockers can't run as fast to the index in SS so what is the problem ??

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Just a reminder...

Some Stockers that would pass a visit to the "NHRA Stocker Barn", will not pass a visit to the "NHRA Super Stock Barn."

Just sayin...

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So if you had a legal stocker that lets say is a natural C/SA but...your combo has been so over factored, it wont outrun any other combo in C/SA. ( just like our natl champs car our natl champ doesn't even want to take her car to Indy,that's just wrong) ...so anyway there are 4-5 C/SA cars in your division and you cant outrun any of them if you happen to get paired ...but there's only 1 in SS/JA ..

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So what has to be changed to make it a Super Stocker ?

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Has to have roll cage

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Some Stocks already have a cage

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Yes they do!

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On some cars, just the class designation on the windows...

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I am pretty sure all SS entries requires an SFI harmonic balancer, regardless of class..
All SS drivers have to have some form of sfi rated pants.

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Our stocker had to run an SFI balancer in stock,just had to buy-5 pants. Don't understand the reason for this post you can run your car in any class or eliminator it legally fits.

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"...Don't understand the reason for this post you can run your car in any class or eliminator it legally fits."

Don't have a dog in the hunt.

But, I'm enjoying this thread. Until last season, I didn't know a Stocker could switch over & run SS, without changes.

Then I noticed that Lindy Lindholm ran his Bird(which was stolen) in SS, & a late model in Stock, at the same race.

As long as the safety rules are met, I don't see a problem with it. Due to the bracket-like, dial-your-own nature of non-heads-up races, as long as the Stocker can run the SS index, it has just as good a chance of winning as the quickest SS car has.

Maybe THAT'S why some guys who have spent LOTS of money makin their SS car super quick don't want cheaper-to-build Stockers running SS.

But, I can't really see any difference in running against a slow, low buck SS car, than running against a Stocker that is quick enuff to run it's SS index.

What's the problem with it ? Should NHRA stop it, because some of the quick SS guys don't like it ? Would like to hear more opinions about it.

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Not every Stock class requires an sfi balancer. ( I believe I/S and slower )
I was quoting post # 9 where it was asked what has to be changed to run SS

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Lower quotas at Nat. events and some of the SS entries get filled with cars built to run Stock Elim., the class they normally run. I think that's not right. My opinion.

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Suppose if you spent the time and $ to get grade points then you’re free to run whatever class you’re legal for.

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I'm at grade 8 in SS. So what about the grade 3,4 or 5 SS guy waiting to enter his local Nat. event and it fills with cars that never runs in SS. That must feel pretty special.

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The way I always understood the rule book it says(in ss section) that basically Stock rules apply and these are the modifications allowed beyond Stock elim and that is what makes it SuperStock....mods are OK -Not Mandatory other than some SFI requirements like a cage or clothes etc.etc....Victor Penrod

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Hacksaw you have a very good point. Can grade points earned in one class be used in another?

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With 8 grade points you should be able to race at any events you wish too enter. Plus I looked up Hacksaw at the events this past year and I didn't see the name. Kenney Kelley

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Bryan had 12 grade points last year,entered stock at New England with 8. Had to wait till it dropped to 4 to get in with the super stocker.

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Hacksaw is indeed a REAL racer ....you are barking up the wrong tree here....

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When I entered super stock it was the Monday that entries closed and it was something like 13 away from being full. At epping national... stock was 2 over I seem to remember. More money for NHRA this way 🙂