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so after the last race of the season on the east coast (dutch classic ) i again had been out gunned in my class yeah ,my combo doesn't run bad and could content with leaving alone ( no I am not bitching or complaining) after that race i immediately pulled the motor out to find more ,look at the chassis for a better 60' searching for some horse power in the engine ,move or remove weight ,yeah some combos are stacked more than others and you pick your combo and make the best of it ,rule changes can have a impact on how fast you can go with what the rule book allows to run at the given time ,i am the owner,crew chief,mechanic,engine builder ,oh as most have a job that gets in the way of my racing , but i always in search of the last bit of horsepower that i can find with in the rules,but the point is of this post is that every time the motor is out i always find things that can be improved ,what is working and what's falling apart and that's the part where you can push the envelope further (or not)
even if your not the wrenches working on your car keep thinking out side the box on ways to improve your combo with the wrench hand ,,
no its not cheap but there are guys/gals out there running fast with minimal financial backing, resources and are not afraid to keep changing things to get the most out of there combo

this class is for people who are looking to go fastest with in the rules in place

keep working on YOUR STUFF

merry Christmas

Gmonde

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As always, I'm curious.

So, are there some in Stock who know they'll never have the money to get their car more than .500 under, who are content to make the car cut good lights & run consistent ET's, in order to continue running in Stock, at races where all run ?

Are there those who have the same car they've had for a LONG time, which is a bad combination, therefore will never be really competitive in a heads-up run, but they wanna keep running that same car/combo ?

Are there some who do a not have a quick heads-up car, but it cuts good lights, runs consistent ET's, & is also used for bracket racing, when not entered in a class race ?

OR, do most other class racers look down their nose at all who use their car for bracket racing also ?

OR, is class racing made up of some of all these types of racers ?

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Yes to all those questions............

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just trying to get everything togeather...some day it will...

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I work on my continuing education everyday trying to solve my physics problem with shinny wheels.

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Nice post but not applicable to the real world. I'll use SS for an example: take the tried an true 350/300 hp chevy. This combo most likely falls into SS/GA or HA or even into a GT combo. Do you really think this engine is going to run close to or even outrun an injected Firebird in SS or an injected 350 combo in GT You can "keep working on your stuff" all you want, but with the current HP factor you'll never get close. This is
where the AHFS doesn't work and NHRA needs to step up to the plate.

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oldsckool, in answer to your question “ OR, is class racing made up of some of all these types of racers ?” the answer is a definite yes. Many don’t have the resources to run the higher class cars and their old iron does just fine in the lower classes since in most cases they are not pitted against newer technologies in heads up runs. Whenever AHFS catches up with new combos there will always be a newer faster equally underfactored magic carpet (which NHRA will always approve to keep the class “relatable” to new fans) and some can simply shell out the 50-100K to upgrade. If/when NHRA runs most of us off and regional class associations start seeing more heads up runs they will have to come to grips with that unlevel playing field. I can think of several ways to achieve that but there will never be complete agreement on how to do that. Simplistically you could require dials on heads up runs by cars with new/old platforms but that would be a firestorm. Not solving world hunger here, just a simple means to run mismatched combinations that wouldn’t run off people in the process. Love the heads up runs, if they don’t get your adrenaline pumping you’re in the wrong place but if I’m running a B/SA Barracuda against a 2015 Camaro VIN car then the fun has just been siphoned off by a bogus HP rating which your local association had no part in approving.

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I agree ,, but its nhra's sand box and you can choose what you want to run or not run .the cars in my class ranged from 68-70 including my car

yeah the fuel injected cars have a leg up , i have the option of going to a ss/GT class and run the gen3 hemi ,, yes it will have fuel injection

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Which combo would you rather have in the heat of the summer in a B/SA Stocker: A 396 BBC or an LT1 SBC............

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No contest for me. 4th Gen Camaro or Firebird with a LT1. Not because of the motor. It is because they have a huge rear hatch that is darn near like air conditioning when you open it in the lanes.

I'm weak.

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It’s cool until you forget to open it or your windows... add t tops and you can bake cookies in there!!

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396 bbc

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My choice would depend on track prep. Hot and slick the 101'' WB car, good track the orange Camaro. Merry Christmas Mr. Jim.

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LOL!

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In a hypothetical world, with ALL else being equal, what is the answer to this question?

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In the heat of the summer? I'd go for the one with the most compression.

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I would go for the one with the most Torque

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From my experience, which pales in comparison to Billy's, is the 396 BBC. They tend to fall-off less in the heat of the summer compared to the SBC EFI combo. But......... Give me good spring or fall air, and I'll take the LT1. :)

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I see you didn't mention the 2015 LS "street car".
Probably because it just took a a big hp hit and it's a dead player now.

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As the topic says "Keep Working on Your Stuff" would fall into the guy who is trying to run on a budget,or as we are doing trying to get back into the swing of things before dumping tons of $$$ into our combination. 4 and 3 years ago we could barely run the G/SA 12.00 index. We finally blew that engine at 6500 rpm's and decided to build my own engine. Last year we had a best of 11.292 at 115 mph on our own engine. CP Pistons,Total Seal Rings,Bullet Cam and several other pieces. This year we made a cpl subtle changes,can't change many without testing each change. Hopefully we can pickup at least 1 to 2 tenths by the end of the year which will get us to 11.10s. We will keep working on our stuff till there's no more that I can do myself but for now it nice to know I can build a 255hp 350 that will run 7 plus under the index for under 5 grand.

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Sometimes the dyno is the best place to spend. It will be your report card and road map.

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I was at the dyno last week, showed improvement, made some changes, and going back next week for some more pulls.

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Dan, It sounds like you have the needle in deep........don't it feel good!

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Yes it does!! And I like it !! I started this project in 1981, to stubborn to give up on it, (admitting I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer) , I will keep plugging away , looking for a tidbit here and a crumb there.

Enjoy the Holidays , 2020 is just around the corner..

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Good for you G, I know with your combination you have to work hard. Can't go out and buy go fast parts and bolt them on. I am in the same situation, working full time, travel with work, and working on customers stuff before the race car. But I am going to keep working just like you. Good luck this coming year.

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Patrick Thanks and to the fellow racers who replied to this post,also to the people who helped in finding more performance ,i am waiting for my crank to comeback from balancing as the final part needed to start reassembly
Of the engine with hopes of testing in late April ,,,first race is @ Atco in may