timing light w/ advance recomendations
so my snap on timing light of 20 years lost the magnet in the pick up during my dyno session(of coarse the biggest day of the winter) and replacement parts are not available
so what are you guys using for timing lights with advance ???,,also has to work with the msd digital 6al |
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I always thought your not supposed to use the advance timing lights on MSD stuff.
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Advance timing lights are a no-no.
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pld school straight up units...
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I've used a Snap-on advance timing light for all of the years that I've been racing with almost every type of MSD ignition system. I haven't had any problems.
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I never use timing lights with an advance feature, don't trust them. I like the self battery powered units. Simple.
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Adjustable advance timing lights are not recommended for use on MSD ignitions. Plenty of information/confirmation out there with a little Goggleing.
MSD sells their own light, both 12v and self powered - or - you can try to find an old Ferret/MSD non-adjustable light - or - you can pick up a mint or NOS Sears/Penske 2138 light, this was sold relabeled by MSD years ago under part #8990. This is what I've used for decades. They are out there. I've seen people say they've had good results with some of the self-powered lights (Flaming River, etc) available as well, but have no personal experience with them. |
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Whatever happened to increasing the timing until it showed on the timeslip no gain or you're going slower? Who really cares about the actual number? Get it to crank, idle, and go down the track.
A cheap Sears light or similar to get it fired and close and then tune it....... If you can't afford a good damper (balancer) then put the timing tape on there. I don't own a dial-back light, never have. |
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MSD Ignition Self-Powered Timing Light Part Number: 121-8991 |
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From my personal experience, the digital type advance timing lights are the ones I've seen problems with. I have a decades old MAC, dial type advance light I've used with no issues on MSD ignition systems. Still have an old non advance light that I'll occasionally throw on just to verify. Friend of mine had a Snap-on digital advance timing light he used and was having some issues with his engine not running correctly, he asked me one day to borrow my timing light, his timing was off over 20 degrees. He set his timing and took that light out of his trailer.
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I tried a Flaming River light, I much preferred my old Craftsman. |
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the older sears, model light is161.2134. works excellent. had a racer years ago, used a dial back on his MSD, motor always tried to kick back when starting, used my sears light, his light showed 35 deg, mine showed 50 deg, reset timing with mine, car picked up 2 tenths and 2 MPH. also started easier.
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Electronic Specialties Model 130 battery powered timing light works well.
esitest.com 800-227-1603 |
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Try eBay for an old Craftsman 28-2134, just an old-fashioned straight up timing light. Works great with MSD 6 and 7 series boxes. Dial-back lights not recommended for use with MSDs. I tried one, would not work at all with a 7AL-3.
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https://www.amazon.com/Performance-T...E5VEFX2W2NMHQV
This looks exactly like the Electronic Specialties, wonder if it's the same light? |
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Yeah, the reviews are horrible for the Performance Tool one.
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I don't think the Electronic Specialties light and the Performance Tool are the same light - similar, but not the same if you look at the photos. The Electronic Specialties light looks like it is also sold by Powerhouse Products (part of the Comp Cams performance group).
The Electronic Specialties unit gets good reviews everywhere I look. Supposedly good to 14K RPM. |
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Have had original Sun ,Snap On,MSD,and Sears.All non advance feature.All were good.33 years of engine dyno testing.Currently have Electronics Specialties #130.First one lasted 6 years of constant dyno work.On the second now,For under 80$ cant go wrong.WE usually ask customers to bring their timing lites to dyno session for comparison.Bill C.
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When I still had my shop open, I had one of those adjustable lights that was part of my big Sun Engine ‘scope/EngineAnalyzer. I had a SnapOn, and a Sun lights as well. On my race car, I had a 36 degree mark on my dampener that I knew was correct. I checked my timing with those lights, none were right on, nor did any agree with each other. After that, I won’t use one.
Your test results may not agree. I can not imagine anybody simply assuming their dial timing light is correct. I don’t know everything, this is simply what I observed. |
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motor is still on the cradle waiting to be installed thanks for the feed back gmonde |
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