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Just curious if the 3 racers that ran 1.20 under were torn down?

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Yes from someone that was effected by this I was wondering the same thing. If they won't torn down I'm calling BS!

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Cooter, you and I both got it in the ear, but Kent was torn down and
found legal. J.R.

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Yay for HP on Monday...... Just when mine was almost finished. Glad a put in a good size weight box

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Hi Bob. I can’t speak for the other cars, but I do know Bill Dyer tore down.

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Taking .17 hundredths at finish line is alot

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Thanks Jim. Wondering mostly about the 91 Camaro that ran fast. A friend here runs that combo and obviously is not happy.

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She broke the news to me last night just before I was going to bed so obviously I didn't get much sleep last night! I think I may go ahead and bury this combo before I go to the dish combo to make sure everyone is done with it.....

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So much time and effort, so much $$$$$$, ......to add weight to the F body cars.....

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Does anyone know exactly what combo LaPorte was running, now that I think about it I thought he ran the 241 combo not the 272 350 combo?

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Cooter, I like the way you think, but it is a 272, now 281 combo, same
as yours and mine. J.R.

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Dyer's Mustang must have zippers that hold the intake & heads on it as many times as its been torn down

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Well I guess that's what I get for thinking, I guess I might try the 241 now.

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I'm kinda glad to see guys pushing the limits and setting records like in the old days. I know getting hit with weight isn't what anyone wants but what's the point of making a car fast otherwise?

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The car in question did not set any record. All he did was make it harder for someone on a budget to race and be competitive. Some of us don't have 20k to put into an engine. Guess I will just sell my crap and go back bracket racing..... Not to mention he ran that in the absolute best air you will ever see. Next closest car with the same combo at that race was 4 tenths slower

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So happy that you are glad to see this...There are a boatload of racers with this 350 EFI combo that don’t share your enthusiasm......

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Yep always good to see guys pushing the limit in stupid fast air for absolutely nothing on the line! Unless you happen to be one of the guys that have this combo which by the way isn't that great anymore and you just spent another 10 grand to be half way competitive when you really need to be. If this was some stupid fast combo it wouldn't really hurt that bad but it's not and this 9 hp will just about put this turd in the grave.

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Did that race meet the requirement to be considered mine shaft condition in stock?

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Yes mine shaft

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Mineshaft yes but 1.20 under is still an instant hit ofcourse. From what I was told the weather was it was incredibly fast and all I can say is under those circumstances he may have not known how fast he was going.

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I've been on here preaching for a while now about the AHFS needs to be brought up to date. How long has it been the same!!!! Not many of you jumped on board. In those kind of conditions I bet there are a lot of combo's that could go 1.20 or more under. I personal wished more went 1.20 under. BP

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Fast enough to take .17 at finish line. More than a car length At 116 mph

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Cooter, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but according to the tech card on Drag Racer TV it is a 245/272 350

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It might have been a car length but it appears he was dumped at the stripe, which is hard to control.

Greg

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Has anyone ever thought about taking enough weight out to be light at the scales on the first qualifying run? That way you could run flat out just to see how quick your car would run at that event. Even a 1.20 under run would not count because the car would be too light across the scales.

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that is completely false. 1.20 under and under weight is still a hit. look back at last year D6.

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OK. I thought that was the reason for the "Mineshaft rule" to keep the combos from getting hit when the conditions were stupid fast like this past weekend. I didn't realize that if you still went 1.2 under you got hit with instant HP when the class met the mineshaft requirement . That probably needs to be changed.

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The ahfs is a flawed system as it is. There is no need to weaken it any further. But racers do need to use some common sense when in mineshaft conditions.

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i am still amazed in this day and age the only thing nhra uses is ET to change indexes. they need to use horsepower correction factor along with the ET that was run.
With the weather reading/ tracking technology that has evolved since the 1970's i have to believe there is a realative easy way to establish a system to decide if it was just great conditions or a great run.
as someone who raced on 0 elevation tracks (atco et al)and then going to indy, 1000ft +/- , can see there needs to be some way to level the numbers.
and i know there will still be arguements, but with hand held weather station devices able to calculate correction factors on the spot, there has to be a way to make it work 99pct of the time.

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The only problem I see is the car was on kill. And it shows
Now a little self control would have helped.
I will never understand why someone would try to go that fast you got a put a limit on yourself

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He lives close to the track ,so i would guess he new how fast he could go.

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Sorensen got a free pass at the scales for being light at a D6 race. I forgot how it went, but heard the car ran fast enough to suck all the water out of the radiator.

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Larry that's not the one I was thinking about there was someone who went fast out there last year but lost some weight in the bushes at end of the track or something.

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I always remember the Chevy 400 combination. Started at 280 horsepower, back when Mike and Ezra first ran one. By the time I gave up on it (in a Camaro, not that the body mattered), they were at 326. At 280, you could go a second under with plug wires off. At 326, you couldn't go a second under, falling to the ground from a skyscraper.

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Exactly,why try to go fast in Dragracing:D

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Jamie, my friend and others,
There's absolutely no requirement that you build a belly button combo for those classes, especially if you're on a strict budget. You're just sticking it out there, looking to get it chopped off.
I might not get many likes here, but as Quid Pro Joe says "Those are the facts, Jack"

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Even under weight?

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Car left track Friday on wrecker with broken rearend. Came back Saturday first run was class. Was left on by .05 and opponent was going 1.17 under at 1000 ft. Opponent dropped him and he missed drop. After working on rear night before he had to tear down on Saturday. Does not sound like how I would have planned weekend. He did make it to final on Sunday and did leave with wally for class

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Sounds like a pretty good weekend other than the broken rear and going 1.23 under. Congrats on the RU

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Honestly, it just plain sucks. It was a mineshaft race and nothing should have counted. I will just have to see what mine will run in a week or so when I get it finished. But losing a tenth before it comes off the stands really hurts, if my math is right, we get 103lbs added. It is what it is.