Covid 19. Over reaction ?
 

Seems relavant. Seems worthy of stand alone thread. Changing NHRA schedules nationally and beyond. . Will be a debate for a long time it looks like. Interested to hear the opinions of some of the smartest, most respected people I know. Impacts across our great country are very different to date..

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This dumbAZZ hillbilly has seen the media report almost 5500 deaths in the state of New York. I am paying attention. On the other hand, in other remote states the number of deaths is very low ??....As far as NHRA is concerned, I don’t believe the local governments gave them any choice. I commend the way NHRA handled this pandemic....#HOPE TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR

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The total for New York is now 6,268. They are using refrigerator trucks in parking lots to store the dead bodies.

NHRA did the only thing it could do.

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I don't really see why we couldn't run division races. There's no spectators to speak of so there shouldn't be a problem with social distancing. I mean hell they're letting people play golf around here.

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You still have teeth MJ

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One reason is in NJ, they have closed race tracks, and until the state says otherwise, we can't race. That's why the Atco races are cancelled

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While people understand that this virus is very contagious, and that self quarantine seems to have really helped, you still have to ask the question is it going to be as deadly as the common flu we have every year along with the H1N1, and all the other viruses we have lived with.
According to the cdc.gov site more than 60,000 deaths in the 2019/2020 are the estimate.

While at one time it was estimated that more then 2,000,000 deaths might be attributed to the Covid-19 virus. Those estimates continue to drop significantly from day to day and will continue, thank God.

My daughter is a Nurse Practitioner in Broward County Florida, in charge of a Critical Care Unit, we worry about her 24/7, so far so good, she has been given the chance to join a "study group" where the Medical Staff will be given Hydroxychloroquine w/Zinc. Her problem is a previous medical issue and has to be certain it will not harm or overload her liver and other organs.

Use Common sense and stay safe.

RJ

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RJ My wife has been taking Hydroxychloroquine for 20 years, with no problem, She has Rheumatoid Arthritis

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Now in this n.j. joint you can't even go to a park for a walk. There is a county park by my house that used to be a dairy farm, atleast 100 acres +, dictator murphy has closed all state & county parks. Yesterday morning I drove up to have a look and there were barricades to keep you out and atleast 2 county park ranger trucks sitting there in the rain just watching. Where I live it is still country and you feel it is all about kontrol.John Kissel

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They have closed all the dragstrip here as well Duane but that's what I'm saying these outdoor events where people are not on top of each other could be done. Just my opinion, there have already been some private "test" sessions at Galot done with limited people aloud.

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People like your wife and people who have lupus are now facing shortages of the medication they need.

It is more than people taking drugs that probably don't work. This also affects others who need those drugs for other proven treatments.

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If there was one that did get the ok to open somewhere there would probably be parking issues if everyone else feels like I do at the moment lol! I would probably tow 16 hours in the blink of an eye right now for $500 purse!

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The NJ parks have closed because people are too stupid here and don't social distance. The sooner we will go back to normal life the sooner everyone does there part.

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Personally I thinks all of this is a gross over reaction. There are diseases all of the time that cause death. None are worth shutting down the economy. You cant believe anything that you hear from the Media of out of the politicians mouths. Some of the experts have indicated that all of these so called precautions that they are taking to "flatten The curve" are just going to prolong the inevitable. the weak, old and people with compromised health will have issues with this disease just as they have with other types of virus that as popped up in the past. Time to get back to life and work. Much longer and the economy will be in shambles. I doubt this would have happened if it wasn't an election year.
Just my .02

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My son suffers from CNS Lupus and faces shortages for not only this but for immunotherapy drugs because of people grasping for straws in most cases. To some degree I fault doctors for prescribing drugs based on theory rather than proven therapeutic values. To a large degree the overuse of penicillin created more problems than solutions, guess we can’t learn from history. In the immortal words of Larry Morgan “you can’t fix stupid”.

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Maybe it is an over-reaction on the part of higher powers then us but, you look at it this way, if nothing was done and millions of people died from this thing, the thread would read “why are we not doing anything about Covid-19??”. It’s a tough position some people are in (I don’t agree with all political thought process sometimes especially in my home state of NJ but, we have ALOT of idiots living here...and they have come out in masses during the quarantine...lol) but, it’s like going to the track for a Divisional, you know it’s going to rain on Sunday...it’s 100% chance of rain on every channel you watch but, you still go knowing that Sunday is probably a wash. The director says ok we’re giving everyone a time run Saturday morning, setting the fields and then try to finish what we can that night. Maybe you get a round or two in but, you don’t get the race done. So now you have guys in the pits going “WTH did we need a time run this morning for, we could have finished this race today, this is BS, while you have others going, man I’m on kill with that time run this morning, that set me right up”. It’s not a win / win situation for anyone unless you wake up at the track on Sunday to no rain or it moved South or North overnight and missed the track leaving a window. Either way you have people pointing the finger at other people (the weather man, division directors, etc)

I’m sure NHRA and the Divisions were not thrilled about having to re-write and cancel events that they would have made $$$ on. I know I wasn’t thrilled about having to re-write my schedule for the .90 series but, you have to make sure people will be safe when we go back to racing. To go back to what James said about Divisonals, maybe not in D2 but, I know in D1 the tracks that have Alky Cars they try to promote crowds to help cover the cost they have to payout to the Alky fields. Like at New England, they make Saturday Night almost a thrill show with Jet Cars, Wheelstanders, Etc. Maple Grove came back last year with Jet Cars and Fireworks also and the crowds on the spectator side was about 1/2 to 3/5 full. I think other states that haven’t seen much of an outbreak go back to normal quicker then us but, the Northeast will be screwed for a couple of Months because of the mass casualties and the thought process that your state might be ok but, now your letting people in from NY, NJ, PA to come race who might be carrying this virus and not know it. Just think and this is scary to think...The US had 1,100 people die in a day from this virus...Maple Grove has 562 cars for the D1 race last year..take everyone of those drivers and one crew member and wipe them off in one day...not trying to be doom and gloom but, realistic —- that right there is scary!!

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You are always knocking the media. It's not perfect but it's our only hope of keeping up with the moment by moment events of the day. Covid 19 is much more potent than the seasonal flu and should not be downplayed. Without social/physical distancing we would see just how bad it could be. The hospitals are overwhelmed, emergency Army ships are brought into heavily infected areas and the Army Corp is building temporary emergency hospital units. Because of the efforts by our governors and the media giving factual information the disease may not be able to kill as many people and that's to their credit. But there is nothing overblown about Covid 19's ability to kill people.

I would love to be racing right now but there is no way in hell that I would risk the health of loved ones by potentially bringing this killer virus home. No way!

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Behind you 110 % Bruce,...It’s not just about US...

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There is no answer to satisfy everyone. The thing that we must look at is keeping as many people from dying from this virus as possible. If that means more social distancing, then I am all for it.

Racing is on hold here in the Pacific Northwest until early May at the soonest. I would love to be at a track to visit with and help friends with their cars. I don't want to risk the possibility of spreading the virus.

Yes, I am bored at the present time. I talk with friends daily and they feel the same way, but are willing to wait for the situation to end.

By the way the death toll is over 7,000 in N.Y. at this time.

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Bruce I fully understand your concerns. Right now I am not really concerned about racing either. I am more concerned about the long term health of the economy. Just for example. My wife works for a restaurant company that has locations around the country. They had about 2000 employees before the virus shut down. now they have only 100 still working. All of the others were laid off. This is just one small example. In the first two weeks of the shut down the company lost 2 million in business. There is a good chance that they might not weather the storm. Multiply this by millions of small business and you have a major calamity in just the restaurant business. I work construction and we are considered essential so I have been working everyday as normal. hopefully that will continue. during the last downturn the company that I work for went from 70 superintendent down to 20. Hopefully this wont be as bad but has to turn around pretty quick or the damage will be real bad.

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The media flat out lies.

Anybody that denies that fact is too stupid to argue with.

The sad truth is that most people are too lazy to look up what is being fed to them by the media. They turn on the tube or read the paper and take everything as truth.

They don't understand that the media is a business and like all businesses they have to turn a profit. They sell the news. You don't thinks so? Look up the salaries that some of these people are pulling down.

The COVID situation is no different. They are selling fear and people are too lazy to look up and make an effort to understand the data. The data is out there. Not only for COVID but other causes of death.

People die and the media lies. That's the plain truth of it all.

Don't get me started on what politicians will say and do to get their way.

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Seems like people are finally coming out from under the Ether that the Media has been spraying....

Well said and without all the drama...

RJ

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Well, I hate to get you started, but what is the media lying about concerning Covid 19? I would love to see some of your research on the subject.

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Bruce I’m not trying to speak for him, but I believe he covered that in his 2d sentence......his words not mine

RJ

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RJ, not even close. I want to know specifically which media is lying about Covid 19 and I would also like to see his research. He claims to be looking up what is being fed to us by the media. Let's see what he's "looked up".

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I want to know exactly what 3rd party the media is getting its info from.

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The media is one thing, however, governments and politicians are making it increasingly difficult to believe a damn thing they say.

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Bruce

I understand that people have their own opinions and passions about the Media and Politics, but on the whole, and for as long as I've been around, (76 years) the media and politicians were normally at the top of the list for gross misinformation.

I understand how political leanings can sway peoples opinions of what to believe or not.

Being passionate about anything, including your political thinking, isn't a bad thing but it can lead to not being able to communicate and reason with other people that may not agree with your opinion.

I may be way out of line but it would seem to make more sense to use our passions towards a more productive outcome.

Arguing with other people about this makes no sense when nobody is going to change their mind set. I'm as guilty as anyone.

What positive steps, if any, could be taken?

Using common sense and be being cautious is a pretty safe bet.

RJ

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In my opinion, and I'm not going to get into arguments, just what I observe:
media and the Democrat Party marches to the beat of Media Matters and George Soros

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Which way does the Media type these 2 words, don't, stop or don't stop. They state the exact opposite yet the same 2 words. Media writes it the way they want their narrative to be.

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Interesting to see Sweeden's response to this dilemma. Whether this is successful or not, I wish them health and safety.

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Don't waste your time. The guy has validated almost everything I wrote. He wants me to share my research because he's too lazy to do it. I bet he wants me to pay him for it too.

He's the type of guy who will go out to prove that the media is honest and factual instead of questioning whether the information is honest and factual and making your own conclusions based on what you find from real data.

You just cannot fix it.

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The Republican Party and the Tea Baggers march to the beat of Fox News, Breitbart News, Infowars, The Drudge Report, and Charles Koch. An honest and fun loving group indeed.


pS

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I really love it when a plan finally comes together.....

Y’all deserve one another...

RJ

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Me too...

Happy Easter, Mr. Sledge...


pS

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Yeah, the Dems and Commies would rather put their faith(am I allowed to use the word faith around Dems?)in life-long politicians, "professional" lawyers and media hearsay from an un-named source.

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You're just talking trash because you are the type of person who is immune to research. You're a closed minded person who is actually too lazy to do research. In fact you only have opinions and have no research that's why you are not responding to my post.

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The Dictator that you support has told over 15,000 lies since he has been office. Now refute that with facts.

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My question to SSGTMustang was simply a request to provide his proof about the media lying about Covid 19. He comes back with a bunch of gibberish and attacks me. And I don't put up with that crap. He wants to talk smack but runs for cover when asked to prove his garbage remarks that I take he has gotten from the Dictator in Chief. People need to be called out for this kind of trash talking.

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OK Bruce, name some and show me your data to back up your statement.
And don't show me any piddley s##t stuff. I can show you Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Shumer piddley s##t lies all day.