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Fred Elsass 04-29-2020 02:42 PM

Is your life worth one more pass.
 
Just watched true sports with Bryant Gumble on HBO. Check it out. It shows what happens when you have a stadium full of people and most of them come down with the virus.


Track owners make money from butts in the seats. Most Stock and Super Stock racers make passes with empty stands. We do not provide enough capital to feed the bulldog.


Sooooooooooooooooo just what is your life worth.


Sarge

GATOR 04-29-2020 03:50 PM

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Quit watching the TV. Media making this worse than it is. Yes, Covid-19 is deadly, but the majority of the people that come down with it survive. It is an immune comprimised disease. If you are scared or your immune system is compromised, cancer, diabetes, etc. Stay home.

The fact is the news is making this outbreak worse than it actually is. Fact is every death number being reported as covid-19 is skewed. Hospitals get extra $ for covid deaths. And that IS a fact! Even the number of deaths reported are not factual. I always wonder if a liberal was in office, would the news report this virus in the same light? Can't hide forever. Your immune system has a job, let it do its thing.

CMcAllister 04-29-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GATOR (Post 613523)
Quit watching the TV. Media making this worse than it is. Yes, Covid-19 is deadly, but the majority of the people that come down with it survive. It is an immune comprimised disease. If you are scared or your immune system is compromised, cancer, diabetes, etc. Stay home.

The fact is the news is making this outbreak worse than it actually is. Fact is every death number being reported as covid-19 is skewed. Hospitals get extra $ for covid deaths. And that IS a fact! Even the number of deaths reported are not factual. I always wonder if a liberal was in office, would the news report this virus in the same light? Can't hide forever. Your immune system has a job, let it do its thing.

This^^^...

What is your life worth? Would you want to live like this forever? Quarantined? Restricted? At the mercy of the people controlling the narrative? Neighbors reporting you for having friends over or going out for a sandwich?

Billy Nees 04-29-2020 04:29 PM

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Is your life worth one more ride in a car? Ya could have an accident.
walk down the street? Ya could get mugged.
day of fishing? Ya could drown.
greasy cheese burger? Ya could clog those arteries.
passionate night? Ya could have a heart attack.



I'll take my chances.

Rory McNeil 04-29-2020 05:13 PM

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Considering it seems that its OK for people to line up at Costco for 3 hours, (Gotta stock up on toilet paper!), or go to the Supermarket or Home Depot, I can`t say that I would feel any less safe at the dragstrip. Maybe leave a little more space between the pit spots, and in the staging lanes, but I like to think most racers have enough common sense to leave a little room between their buddies in the pits. Now, of course could be a problem for the "Street Outlaw" types who require 40 crew members on the starting line, or the Kallita "mosh pit" pileup after one of their cars wins, but I think most of us would be ok, even at the LODRS level, where spectators are not a huge number.

AC 04-29-2020 05:57 PM

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Holy cow, the media loves this crap, they are rolling in it because of all the hype.

Lets open up, if you dont want to leave your house stay home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPrb...Ys&app=desktop

GUMP 04-29-2020 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 613525)
.....passionate night? Ya could have a heart attack.

That's how I want to go!!

(At about 95 years old)

Mark Yacavone 04-29-2020 06:46 PM

Re: Is your life worth one more pass.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AC (Post 613532)
Holy cow, the media loves this crap, they are rolling in it because of all the hype.

Lets open up, if you dont want to leave your house stay home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPrb...Ys&app=desktop

I watched this last night. The name commie has been thrown around here lately. But ,if you want to know what a real Jr. Commie looks like...look at Mark Zuckerface

Julie Jordan 04-29-2020 07:43 PM

Re: Is your life worth one more pass.
 
My husband just spent a week in the hospital, due to a bicycle crash (and his friends thought my sport was dangerous!) Life is fragile, any of us can be gone tomorrow. He has a suppressed immune system due to the drugs he takes for his Rheumatoid Arthritis. We always have to be aware of where we go, who we come in contact with, as a common cold could escalate into pneumonia for him. We don't expect everyone to work around his issues.

We met with his personal physician for a follow-up appointment today. His doctor expressed that the immune compromised, people with chronic or terminal issues, the elderly, are most affected by this virus. He has treated patients with COVID, done over 500 tests and only 5 have been positive. He believes the fragile should stay home, as much as possible, but the rest of us need to get out and live again. Staying home actually weakens our immune systems as we're not being exposed to anything. Be careful, wash your hands frequently, don't touch your face, nose, or mouth, use common sense. Eat well, drink a lot of water, treat your body properly.

Churches will soon open in California, some of these churches have 1000+ members. But we can't go to an outdoor concert. Beauty salons can't open until Phase III, but you can get a tattoo. You can't work unless you're an essential worker but the Governor wants people to volunteer at food banks. You can go to the grocery store or WalMart but can't rent a camping space in a national forest. None of this makes sense.

As soon as the race tracks are open, we are going to be there!

CMcAllister 04-29-2020 09:18 PM

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39,000 died in car wrecks last year. And yet, I got in my vehicle and drove off this morning without shivering in fear for my life.

Life is too short. I have no expectation of getting out of here alive. I do intend to try to have some enjoyment and not hide from every boogieman they tell us is out there.

Bob Mulry 04-30-2020 02:14 PM

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I posted a video, on FakeBook, which was made by 2 Bakersfield ER doctors..

Not only is the Wuhan Virus killing people, it is killing hospitals.

Without "elective" surgery, you know like a biopsy, carpel tunnel and hundreds more, they are furloughing nurses, doctors and closing off unused hospital floors

They used the data from CDPH and CDC.

The information didn't fit the YouTube agenda and removed, so it was also removed from FakeBook.

Go online and Google "2 Bakersfield ER Doctors" and a link to the local ABC affiliate will pop up.

It's not a very fast, but you can take a look at what's being hidden by YouTube and FakeBook

It's long, but worth every second.

Don't be sheeple..

PS:
A company by the name of CALMATTERS has put out press releases all over the country, when they spoke to only Bakersfield, to discredit the info.
I don't think that there is an actual original video to view and make your dissensions

Curt Rees 04-30-2020 04:29 PM

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Things are starting to open up here in South Dakota. We were not locked down, but several of cities had ordinances in place. Sioux Falls is our major hub, 200,000 people in the area, and had one of the hot spots in the local pork processing plant.

The mayor is opening up Sioux Falls as are the other cities. There are restrictions on the eating/drinking facilities and will be for awhile. But, the mayor realizes people need to get out side, so the parks and recreational facilities are opening up. My grandson is happy, looks like he is going to get to play legion baseball this summer. Fresh air and sun shine, some how I think that is good for you!

Thunder Valley in Marion is opening this week end with a full schedule. Social distancing and other stay safe ideas will be practiced. Good for them!

Time to get on with life. Let 'er rip!

#5458

Curt Rees

farmco r/sa 05-01-2020 07:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt Rees (Post 613644)
Things are starting to open up here in South Dakota. We were not locked down, but several of cities had ordinances in place. Sioux Falls is our major hub, 200,000 people in the area, and had one of the hot spots in the local pork processing plant.

The mayor is opening up Sioux Falls as are the other cities. There are restrictions on the eating/drinking facilities and will be for awhile. But, the mayor realizes people need to get out side, so the parks and recreational facilities are opening up. My grandson is happy, looks like he is going to get to play legion baseball this summer. Fresh air and sun shine, some how I think that is good for you!

Thunder Valley in Marion is opening this week end with a full schedule. Social distancing and other stay safe ideas will be practiced. Good for them!

Time to get on with life. Let 'er rip!

#5458

Curt Rees


Great to hear Curt. South Dakota governor making nation news. Hope all goes well.

Randy Wells 05-03-2020 10:47 PM

Re: Is your life worth one more pass.
 
Better yet is your life worth more then the freedom and liberty we have enjoyed in this country for the last 244 years.

Superfan1 05-04-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 613827)
Better yet is your life worth more then the freedom and liberty we have enjoyed in this country for the last 244 years.

I served this country in the U.S. Navy for 4 years; so I am very familiar with freedom and liberty. However, with COVID-19, your freedom and liberty to do whatever you want infringes on my health and safety. If you want to jeopardize your health and your life; that's fine with me. But, in this case, you are jeopardizing my health and my life and that is not acceptable.

Bill Grubbs 05-04-2020 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 613861)
I served this country in the U.S. Navy for 4 years; so I am very familiar with freedom and liberty. However, with COVID-19, your freedom and liberty to do whatever you want infringes on my health and safety. If you want to jeopardize your health and your life; that's fine with me. But, in this case, you are jeopardizing my health and my life and that is not acceptable.

Bill, I agree with you completely, without reservation!

I served this country in the USAF for 24 years; so I am very familiar with freedom and liberty. However, with alcohol/Mary Jane sales and the requisite drunk/stoned driving, your freedom and liberty to do whatever you want infringes on my health and safety. If you want to jeopardize your health and your life; that's fine with me. But, in this case, you are jeopardizing my health and my life and that is not acceptable.

Bill Grubbs

63corvette 05-04-2020 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 613868)
Bill, I agree with you completely, without reservation!

I served this country in the USAF for 24 years; so I am very familiar with freedom and liberty. However, with alcohol/Mary Jane sales and the requisite drunk/stoned driving, your freedom and liberty to do whatever you want infringes on my health and safety. If you want to jeopardize your health and your life; that's fine with me. But, in this case, you are jeopardizing my health and my life and that is not acceptable.

Bill Grubbs

First off, thanks for your and everyone else sacrifice who served.
I do not want this to be taken for a political statement however, there is a document somewhere which states something like: everyone has the right for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I do not think a Mayor of a city or a Governor of a state has the right to force anyone to stay inside their home and not go outside without any timeline for that to change. I do not know of any law that gives them that right.
I am one of those who is high risk due to age and plan to stay home on my own, however I do not like the idea of being locked in.
Maybe I am just old and grouchy.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Carl Battis 05-04-2020 06:54 PM

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If that pass is the one that turns on the win light in my lane at The US Nationals in Indy this year then I could die a happy man......just sayin. 🙂🏁

Bob Mulry 05-05-2020 05:54 PM

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The easing of shelter in place does not force you to do anything...

If you have concerns regarding your health just stay sheltered in place..

It makes no sense, that if I want to sit down and eat at a restaurant it negatively impacts anybody’s health but my own...

We still have to make our own decisions about OUR health care

Randy Wells 05-05-2020 06:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 613868)
Bill, I agree with you completely, without reservation!

I served this country in the USAF for 24 years; so I am very familiar with freedom and liberty. However, with alcohol/Mary Jane sales and the requisite drunk/stoned driving, your freedom

and liberty to do whatever you want infringes on my health and safety. If you want to jeopardize your health and your life; that's fine with me. But, in this case, you are jeopardizing my health and my life and that is not acceptable.

Bill Grubbs

First of all thanks for your service Bill, if I decide to to not stay at home, and I don't, I go to work every day in the oil patch, that is up to me. I do not see how that jeopardizes your health, if you are compromised stay home no problem. this country needs to get back to work or you will be standing in bread lines. We will let you know when it is safe to come out and play.

Paul Sarvas 05-05-2020 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 613955)
It makes no sense, that if I want to sit down and eat at a restaurant it negatively impacts anybody’s health but my own...


If you have the bug, isn't there a chance could infect other people in the restaurant?




pS

Billy Nees 05-05-2020 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 613963)
If you have the bug, isn't there a chance could infect other people in the restaurant?




pS

"IF" he has "the bug", the only people whom he will have the "chance" of infecting "in the restaurant" would be like minded people that were willing to take the "chance" of being infected by the "bug" by going to the restaurant. "IF" YOU don't want to take the "chance" of being infected by the "bug" then don't go to the restaurant. It's Bob's "right" to go to the restaurant if he so desires and it's YOUR "right" to not go to the restaurant if you feel unsafe doing so.

farmco r/sa 05-06-2020 07:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 613963)
If you have the bug, isn't there a chance could infect other people in the restaurant?




pS

The virus is here and going to be here for the foreseeable future. Should the whole country " shelter in place" for the foreseeable future? We were told " flatten the curve". Seems like that has happened. For the record I am in public transportation and have not stopped working through this crisis. Much slower. Not all of us can or choose to hunker in with our freezer full of ice cream and tell others what to do. Chance I could infect someone.? Yesterday morning I drove an elderly lady with copd to covid-19 testing.She was about 2 feet away from me for 20 minutes. If she is willing to take a risk and ride with me I was willing to take her.

farmco r/sa 05-06-2020 07:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 613868)
Bill, I agree with you completely, without reservation!

I served this country in the USAF for 24 years; so I am very familiar with freedom and liberty. However, with alcohol/Mary Jane sales and the requisite drunk/stoned driving, your freedom and liberty to do whatever you want infringes on my health and safety. If you want to jeopardize your health and your life; that's fine with me. But, in this case, you are jeopardizing my health and my life and that is not acceptable.

Bill Grubbs


Thanks for your service Bill. Always like seeing you and Brenda when you guys make the trip to Denver in July.

Eddies66 05-06-2020 09:15 AM

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Every war this nation has ever fought there has been a loss of civil liberties (do a little homework), let there be no doubt in your mind that Covid-19 is an enemy of humanity and this is a war. The only difference is the soldiers of this battle are the first responders, they are on the front line everyday fighting the good fight. Out of respect for those that are dying to save lives, KEEP YOUR *** AT HOME. So far my wife and I have had three family members with full blow virus to include my wife’s 86 year old godmother and my oldest daughter was exposed. If you need help, post it, I will buy you a bag of groceries. Man-up and do what you need to do to keep yourself, your family and your neighbors safe. I would rather spend the rest of summer locked down than spend the rest of summer burying my family and friends.


– Major General Chesty Puller, USMC – while on a Battalion inspection. “Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!”

Stan Weiss 05-06-2020 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 613969)
"IF" he has "the bug", the only people whom he will have the "chance" of infecting "in the restaurant" would be like minded people that were willing to take the "chance" of being infected by the "bug" by going to the restaurant. "IF" YOU don't want to take the "chance" of being infected by the "bug" then don't go to the restaurant. It's Bob's "right" to go to the restaurant if he so desires and it's YOUR "right" to not go to the restaurant if you feel unsafe doing so.


How about the people who work at the restaurant. Some of them may not have wanted to go back to work, but their state said if you don't go back to work when called you lose your unemployment.

Stan

BRETV 05-06-2020 10:42 AM

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You guys want to use data, science and facts ( which has not been close to accurate since the start) We had one of the worst flu and pneumonia seasons going when the virus hit, my kids schools closed 2 different times because of it. The virus hits and the flu and pneumonia cases suddenly disappear??, please give me the number of deaths from the regular flu and pneumonia during this pandemic. Inquiring minds that want to see the whole picture would like to know. It shouldn't be hard to get those numbers, should it??






Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

Billy Nees 05-06-2020 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 614020)
How about the people who work at the restaurant. Some of them may not have wanted to go back to work, but their state said if you don't go back to work when called you lose your unemployment.

Stan

OK, if you live/work in a State whose Govt. has determined that it's safe to go back then it's your (the employees) "right" to decide if it is safe for you to go back to work. If you decide to not go back to work and you lose your job and/or unemployment benefits, it was your "right" to make that decision. ALL of life's decisions have consequences.

Carguy49 05-06-2020 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 614011)
Every war this nation has ever fought there has been a loss of civil liberties (do a little homework), let there be no doubt in your mind that Covid-19 is an enemy of humanity and this is a war.

I would rather spend the rest of summer locked down than spend the rest of summer burying my family and friends.

Well put Eddie. I agree with you about being locked down verses burying many friends and family.

I start each day with a Prayer for all the front line people and then my family and friends. Each of us needs to do whatever we think is best for them and ourselves. Stop this name calling and bickering amongst each other. We are in this TOGETHER and we will come out the other side if we WORK TOGETHER.

I hope and PRAY that each event that does happen is successful and the virus is not spread any further because of them. We ARE NOT through with this deal yet. With GOD'S help and teamwork from us all we WILL make it. Thanks for the time to vent here a little.

God BLESS all the worker's involved in caring for people with the virus and let them ALL be as safe as possible.

Stan Weiss 05-06-2020 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 614028)
OK, if you live/work in a State whose Govt. has determined that it's safe to go back then it's your (the employees) "right" to decide if it is safe for you to go back to work. If you decide to not go back to work and you lose your job and/or unemployment benefits, it was your "right" to make that decision. ALL of life's decisions have consequences.


Just like you want a choice so should others have a choice. Your choice should not force someone else choice. Should it?

Lets see where we are at later this summer and if NHRA National Event racing starts back up or not. That will tell the tail.

Stan

Billy Nees 05-06-2020 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 614031)
Just like you want a choice so should others have a choice. Your choice should not force someone else choice. Should it?

Stan

You are absolutely right Stan. Re-read my post.
If my state Govt. determines that it is safe for a restaurant to open, it is my "choice" to decide if I want to go or not. If my state Govt. determines that it is NOT safe for a restaurant to open then I don't have that "choice", do I?

Billy Nees 05-06-2020 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 614031)
Just like you want a choice so should others have a choice. Your choice should not force someone else choice.

Ya know Stan, while we're talking about choices I couldn't help but notice that you live in Philadelphia. I live in the middle of 80+ acres of farmland about 30 miles east of State College. It seems to me that IF you are/were so concerned about things like communicable diseases you could have made a better "choice". Oh well, "all of life's decisions have consequences"!

farmco r/sa 05-06-2020 01:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 614020)
How about the people who work at the restaurant. Some of them may not have wanted to go back to work, but their state said if you don't go back to work when called you lose your unemployment.

Stan

How long should they get unemployment? Until the virus is gone?

Stan Weiss 05-06-2020 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 614036)
Ya know Stan, while we're talking about choices I couldn't help but notice that you live in Philadelphia. I live in the middle of 80+ acres of farmland about 30 miles east of State College. It seems to me that IF you are/were so concerned about things like communicable diseases you could have made a better "choice". Oh well, "all of life's decisions have consequences"!


Billy,
While you maybe better off in the middle of 80+ acres of farmland about 30 miles east of State College. How does that help you when you are standing next to me or anyone else from Philadelphia at ATCO?

Stan

Stan Weiss 05-06-2020 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by farmco r/sa (Post 614038)
How long should they get unemployment? Until the virus is gone?


I guess it depends who you believe.

Is there adequate testing available? I would say no!

We are talking a restaurant where unlike many places of work where there are the same people everyday.

Stan

Billy Nees 05-06-2020 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 614040)
Billy,
While you maybe better off in the middle of 80+ acres of farmland about 30 miles east of State College. How does that help you when you are standing next to me or anyone else from Philadelphia at ATCO?

Stan

Now, wait a minute here Stan, you're talkin' outta both sides of your mouth here. Are you willing to take the chance of going to Atco? What makes you think that I'm going put myself in a position of standing next to you or anyone else AT Atco?
I am willing to take the risk of going to Atco and possibly catching "the bug" from you or anyone else IF I am not being careful of my surroundings. MY "choice". Are YOU willing to take the risk of going to Atco and possibly catching "the bug" from ME or anyone else? YOUR "choice". Personal responsibility can be a b!tch sometimes.

farmco r/sa 05-06-2020 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 614042)
I guess it depends who you believe.

Is there adequate testing available? I would say no!

We are talking a restaurant where unlike many places of work where there are the same people everyday.

Stan

What woud be adequate testing ? Weekly? daily?

Stan Weiss 05-06-2020 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 614036)
Ya know Stan, while we're talking about choices I couldn't help but notice that you live in Philadelphia. I live in the middle of 80+ acres of farmland about 30 miles east of State College. It seems to me that IF you are/were so concerned about things like communicable diseases you could have made a better "choice". Oh well, "all of life's decisions have consequences"!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 614045)
Now, wait a minute here Stan, you're talkin' outta both sides of your mouth here. Are you willing to take the chance of going to Atco? What makes you think that I'm going put myself in a position of standing next to you or anyone else AT Atco?
I am willing to take the risk of going to Atco and possibly catching "the bug" from you or anyone else IF I am not being careful of my surroundings. MY "choice". Are YOU willing to take the risk of going to Atco and possibly catching "the bug" from ME or anyone else? YOUR "choice". Personal responsibility can be a b!tch sometimes.


Billy,
I took your post as a board general meaning and not just about C-19 and replied that way.


Stan

Stan Weiss 05-06-2020 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by farmco r/sa (Post 614046)
What woud be adequate testing ? Weekly? daily?


I would be interested to know if they were even tested once before going back to a job where they come in contact with people as part of their job. Remember testing them is not only for their safety but also yours.



Stan

Superfan1 05-06-2020 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 613969)
"IF" he has "the bug", the only people whom he will have the "chance" of infecting "in the restaurant" would be like minded people that were willing to take the "chance" of being infected by the "bug" by going to the restaurant. "IF" YOU don't want to take the "chance" of being infected by the "bug" then don't go to the restaurant. It's Bob's "right" to go to the restaurant if he so desires and it's YOUR "right" to not go to the restaurant if you feel unsafe doing so.

You're overlooking one very important point. If he infects anyone in the restaurant; they will then be able to infect others, who in turn can infect others and so forth. If that occurs, all of the progress that has been made in containing this virus will be lost. I don't think any of us want that to occur.


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