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looking at calender Indy listed 3 to 6 of sept that is thurs to sunday , 2 days shorter than normal what gives ??

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In case of weather problems and travel time.

Aug. 28-30 NHRA Southern Nationals, Atlanta
Sept. 3-6 Denso Spark Plugs NHRA U.S. Nationals*, Indianapolis
Sept. 11-13 Mopar Express Lane NHRA Nationals, Reading, Pa.

Stan

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It's a crowded schedule for sure. Not to mention 2 National events at Indy the same weekend as the Sports nationals and the Divisional in Columbus.

July 11-12 NHRA Mello Yello Drag Racing, Indianapolis
July 18-19 NHRA Mello Yello Drag Racing, Indianapolis
July 31-Aug. 2 Flav-R-Pac NHRA Northwest Nationals, Seattle
Aug. 7-9 Dodge Mile-High NHRA Nationals, Denver
Aug. 14-16 Lucas Oil NHRA Nationals, Brainerd, Minn.
Aug. 21-23 Menards NHRA Heartland Nationals, Topeka, Kan.
Aug. 28-30 NHRA Southern Nationals, Atlanta
Sept. 3-6 Denso Spark Plugs NHRA U.S. Nationals*, Indianapolis
Sept. 11-13 Mopar Express Lane NHRA Nationals, Reading, Pa.
Sept. 18-20 NGK Spark Plugs NHRA Four-Wide Nationals, Charlotte
Sept. 25-27 Amalie Motor Oil NHRA Gatornationals, Gainesville, Fla.
Oct. 2-4 AAA Insurance NHRA Midwest Nationals, St. Louis
Oct. 9-11 NHRA Thunder Valley Nationals, Bristol, Tenn.
Oct. 16-18 AAA Texas NHRA FallNationals, Dallas
Oct. 23-25 Mopar Express Lane NHRA SpringNationals, Houston
Oct. 30-Nov. 1 Dodge NHRA Nationals, Las Vegas
Nov. 13-15 Auto Club NHRA Finals, Pomona, Calif.

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Indy is not going to have class and has the allstars there now as well, with losing chicago. The pros will only run on Saturday and Sunday.

Schedule should look something to this variety:
Thurs - Qualifying
Friday - Allstars and National Elims (not sure how they are going to pull this off exactly)
Sat - More elims for National Event
Sun - Final Elims.

I would expect lowered quotas than normal, but cannot confirm that obviously.

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From NHRA's email today



The U.S. Nationals will have one Mello Yello Drag Racing Series qualifying round on Friday and two rounds on Saturday, followed by Eliminations on Sunday


Stan

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I missed that, thank you!

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Still not telling us the Lucus Oil Sportsmen schedule.

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There will be CLASS @ Indy. Stock & SS. Just asked on the Live update with Brian Lohnes & Phil Burgess.

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With no disrespect, but what I think most people are missing are the most important four words on the release: Schedule subject to change. That about says it all!

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I don’t see class anywhere here....

http://www.nhra.net/2020/images/NHRA...Revised_V2.pdf

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I don't see it either, but I am hoping that there is class because Indy just isn't Indy without class

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they said on the telecast that class runoffs was a GO..

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I see the current info shows no class schedule at all. Today Brian and Phil answered my question directly that there will be Class at Indy. Saying it will most likely be the only event with it. Also saying there will be updates to event schedules......just passing along what they said to us......

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Well we have one racer telling us that there won't be class at Indy and another one says there will be. Who do we believe????? I sure do hate rumors!

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I found the quota for stock and super stock at indy is still 160 entries each like last year, not likely they would drag all of us there without having class. Everything is subject to change !

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Hey Marty they are both credible sources. Well as credible as can be expected. The link was from NHRA, not me. Hope there is class. Indy isn’t Indy without it.

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Brian and Phil on the youtube broadcast without a doubt said there would be class racing at Indy. Phil stated that some would rather win class at Indy than win a national event.
Pete

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Not saying either is wrong and I also did hear them say Class would be run at Indy on the video but, we all know Class at Indy is an all day event, usually one day for stock, one day for super stock giving each class a day off in between for tear downs. Indy has now been shortened by 2 days, chopping out Wednesday and Monday. You now have the Jegs All Stars added which sometimes takes most of Saturday up when it was in Chicago. I did hear a rumor that Super Street might be added to the list because 8 - 10.90 guys will already be there for the All-Stars and heard they might add a 40-50 car field (rumor) to run for a once in a lifetime “Indy Wally”. You also have TD & TS added last year in which we all know for us .90 races resulted in one of the normal time runs being yanked from us last year along with the parking disaster.

So what I think will happen is the top qualifier in each class will get a class trophy once qualifying is done. This way they can say they still had class at Indy and not ruin tradition of running class at the BIG GO. I’m sure they want to make it sound like they’re running Class because it will make that 160 car quota fill up fast. We’ve already heard on here that if class didn’t happen a lot of you were staying home, so you dangle the carrot and when you get there you find out it’s the fastest car per class. Just my 2 cents but, what do I know I’m just a .90 guy...lol

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Lemons 24 and Great Race.

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Looks like they forgot about Stock.

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Guys, the reality of the situation is that STK & SS Class Run-offs, although loved by us and we all want them to take place, are not feasible given the current schedule. Not only has NHRA made a hard decision to chop off the Wednesday and Monday from the event, they have also added S/ST(since they cannot run in Chicago), All-Stars(since they cannot run in Chicago) and also, I believe, the ProMod Shootout from Sonoma? All we can hope and encourage NHRA to do this year, is award Class Victories/Wally's to the fastest qualified car in the class/combo. It is not a perfect situation; however still allows us to run our stuff hard and see where we are at in the pack. I have done the math, did not add in that oil downs and weather could be a factor, and the answer is that class runoffs cannot be attained. Please continue to talk your SRAC Representatives to encourage NHRA to have Class Wally's awarded to fastest cars in class.

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The reality is NHRA is notorious for trying to fill 10 gallons in a 5 gallon jug. With all the goings on in the world I will .be HAPPY to just race and see my buds...

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I agree that there just isn't time for actual class eliminations when they eliminated two days and added categories like the All Stars, but I don't like setting the precedent of awarding class to the fastest qualifier. I realize this wouldn't be the first time it has happened, but that is generally due to weather or something that was an unanticipated change in the schedule.

Establishing that the class winner as the fastest qualifier completely removes the red light factor or driver impact on the race. We all know that the fastest car isn't a lock on winning class, but doing it this way takes a lot away from the honor of winning class in my opinion.

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I completely agree with your opinion; however if they do away with STK/SS "Class" all together, then the entry #'s for STK & SS will dramatically decrease. For this year and given the current situation/schedule, I believe its the best case scenario. IMHO

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Well, it has been answered.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...860&zoneid=175

Super Stock and Stock Class Eliminations Notice
Due to the restructuring of the Mello Yello Drag Racing Series for 2020, Stock and Super Stock Class Eliminations will not take place at the US Nationals. We will award the quickest car in each class (with more than 1 competitor) the Class Trophy. For those classes with single competitors, we will create the Combos and award the quickest competitor in each Combo the Class Trophy. Contingency Awards will be awarded as well.

Jeg’s Sportsnationals –

Class Eliminations will be held (weather/time permitting) at the Columbus Jeg’s Sportsnationals for Stock and Super Stock.

Class Eliminations will NOT be contested at the New England Jeg’s Sportsnationals event.

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Uh, this didn’t last long.....LOL !!!!!!

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"Class Eliminations will NOT be contested at the New England Jeg’s Sportsnationals event."

That stinks, really really stinks

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So much for cheap diesel. We will do our own hemi race in November.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kansas stocker View Post
Brian and Phil on the youtube broadcast without a doubt said there would be class racing at Indy. Phil stated that some would rather win class at Indy than win a national event.
Pete

Shows how out of touch NHRA & Burgess are thinking Fastest car in class is equivalent to racing and winning class at Indy!

They should at least pair them up by class for 2nd qualifier and give class win to fastest winning car.

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amen '!!!!!!

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Well they made me look pretty foolish. It really isn't that hard to do. Like an elephant, I won't forget.
Pete

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All I can say for those D1 racers who don’t want to travel to Indy on Labor Day because they don’t have class this year, The East Coast Stock/SS series is tentatively scheduled to have a race at ATCO that weekend along with the .90 series. Would be a nice warm-up for those who want to get a few hits in before heading to Maple Grove for the Nationals.

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NHRA has forgotten the part they struggle with the most at Indy.....Parking! Maybe the crew from Glendora will fly in and do it ? With the current schedule, they may have to cancel parking as well.

You know there is a model that works as an alternative to class at Indy. Just like the Baby Gators.

It would work. Pick a points meet to have the “Indy class runoff’s” They could even grant an AHFS hall pass. Then just get it done.

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Blasphemy!!!!!! Good heavens NO.
Indy National event and class there is the absolute pinnacle of class racing, a tradition and cherished event for class racers!!! It stands as the centerpiece for what we do.

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No Pete, it’s not on you. Unfortunately with this organization at times, the LEFT hand doesn’t know what the RIGHT hand is doing.....I have one of those ELEPHANT memories also......

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When they answered me on the Live Video one has to guess Phil did not have all the details. Phil is a pretty straight up guy in my experience, so he answered the best that he could at the time.

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We used to say that we didn't race our cars on paper, well, NHRA changed that. Now the fastest car in class will get the trophy and contingency. So if you make a really fast pass in your class, then break, you get the class win.
Racing is racing, but now it's going to be a paper win.
Casey Miles
Stock

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I'd like to see someone put on a race Labor Day weekend (Fri - Sun) for Stk & SS cars with class. I'm not going to Indy now but would go elsewhere if there was class.....and Hemi cars

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I understand completely, however, it the choice is class runoffs or no class runoffs....an alternative that allows us to race class is better than not having it at all.

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Why even bother having class at Indy then?