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SStockDart 08-19-2020 11:37 PM

Goodyear Contriversive
 
Sorry for misspelling controversy. Does anyone care to comment about the BS going on with Goodyear and the directive given to the employees in Topeka. You know, the directive that indicates that it is OK for Goodyear employees to be lesbian, gay, trans, etc. And wear BLM...but not OK to display blue lives matter, all lives matter, MAGA attire, etc.
Here is what I think happened....some lowly hourly paid person installed pieces in a PowerPoint presentation to reflect the Goodyear favoritism to blacks. Goodyear recanted respectfully, but completely left out significant dialogue. For that, Goodyear is toast. Goodyear should have said something to the effect. "Our employees wear uniforms without designation, hats can have no emblem." But nooooooo....they screwed up and caved in to the Union and/or black employees. Goodyear corporate very likely did not put out the Zero Tolerance Policy.....but, corporate did not stop it or respond appropriately.

Randy Wells 08-19-2020 11:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 621331)
Sorry for misspelling controversy. Does anyone care to comment about the BS going on with Goodyear and the directive given to the employees in Topeka. You know, the directive that indicates that it is OK for Goodyear employees to be lesbian, gay, trans, etc. And wear BLM...but not OK to display blue lives matter, all lives matter, MAGA attire, etc.
Here is what I think happened....some lowly hourly paid person installed pieces in a PowerPoint presentation to reflect the Goodyear favoritism to blacks. Goodyear recanted respectfully, but completely left out significant dialogue. For that, Goodyear is toast. Goodyear should have said something to the effect. "Our employees wear uniforms without designation, hats can have no emblem." But nooooooo....they screwed up and caved in to the Union and/or black employees. Goodyear corporate very likely did not put out the Zero Tolerance Policy.....but, corporate did not stop it or respond appropriately.

I will never buy a goodyear tire again. Over priced anyway.

John Kissel 08-20-2020 07:14 AM

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The whole meeting sounds like some jr. cubical lurker corp. wannabeee, got a case of wokeness, Goodyear blew a chance to stop the problem before it became big. As far as their tires go, the big truck tires they came out with years ago (G167?) were great in sandy orange groves, BUT, the "wingfoot" tires were not so good for our F-150, and I had to wait to be able to buy the Marathon tires for my trailer. That was a lot of money for 4 mary may pops.I'm done with them.

Jeff Niceswanger 08-20-2020 08:42 AM

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Gary, I'm sure you remember some of our old conversations. I don't get involved in the conversations much anymore, but I'm down here in the lounge anyway looking at music.While being the Union President @ Ralston Purinia for the last decade of my employment, I sit in on several meetings which had similar topics.We made breakfast cereal. Since it was food, the amount of rules was expanded to protect the public.Sometimes,to some people (our members) the rules seemed stupid. We had to wear hair nets. And beard nets.The rules stated, and were strictly enforced, that everybody wore a hairnet. Even if you were bald. Reason being if you shaved your head to get around wearing those hot hairnets the possibility of it growing back was inevitable. The bosses was always having to remind some members that their hair was getting too long to go without wearing a net. So to stop all the issues.We just made a blanket rule to put one on...Period. Even if you were born bald (we had members that were). But you know what. ? They would never do the same with beard nets.You only had to wear one if you had "stubble" . Why the difference? I have no idea. But they owned the place, we just followed the contract.
We had hat rules too. Everyone was required to wear a hardhat out in the plant, but members in the labs, offices,outside in yard dogs ect. could choose a ball cap. You know how they settled this issue that Goodyear just went through? They supplied the hats.Had a big RALSTON Logo on it. We were not allowed to put Union pins, football teams,NHRA Logo's,... no logos or advertising of any type....The hats were to remain unmolested. Same thing with the hardhats,they supplied them and there was to be no tampering whatsoever. They also supplied the uniforms, same deal. We had two bulletin boards. No political info was allowed on them. I'll post the contract language.This is totally Goodyears mis-sight. They were trying to stop all the political endorsements. But allowing other things similar was a big boo boo. And I would guess this was at the local plant level.Glad I'm out of all that push N pull. Retirement is soooo much better .. good talking at you again


BULLETIN BOARD

Section 1. The Company agrees to provide two (2) bulletin boards which may be used by the Union for posting notices, a copy of which is provided to the Company, and restricted to:

(a) Notices of Union meetings.

(b) Notices of Union elections.

(c) Notices of Union appointments and the results of Union elections.

(d) Notices of Union recreational and social affairs.

(e) Other notices concerning bona fide Union activity such as: cooperatives, credit union and unemployment compensation information.

There shall be no posting of Union information on other bulletin boards within the plant.

Section 2. There shall be no other general distribution by employees of any kind of literature in Company work areas other than as herein provided or as permitted by law.

Frank Castros 08-20-2020 09:02 AM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
The Goodyear Eagle LS2 tires that BMW equips some of their models with are pure junk and apparently so is Goodyear's management philosophy.

Fireofficer5 08-20-2020 09:09 AM

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If you happen to listen to real news, the issue was political nonsense being worn.

There were no democratic endorsements allowed either.

Just like no maga hats were allowed.

BLM is not a political group.

LGBT rights are not a political group.

I love this feigned anger toward persons or business that brings out the

real color of a person.

I'm buying goodyear right now and getting all goodyear tires for my two

cougar drag cars.

Have a great life and lower that blood pressure, its sure to kill you.

Rick Pingol

Jeff Niceswanger 08-20-2020 10:43 AM

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Bout 10 years ago,Goodyear built a new, state of the art R&D facility in Hebron Ohio. Its the little berg where National Trail Raceway is located. They were going to hire 6 maintenance man. Of course their was hundreds upon hundreds of applicants.The requirements they wanted was steep, and required electrical test,mechanical/hydraulic test and of course multiple interviews.We had 5 of our guys try to grab one of these new jobs.The new Goodyear plant was non union, but its pay grades and benefit packages matched ours, and even exceeded some areas. That damn place took 4 of our men! And good skilled labors are hard to find. One was my chief steward. He has since died of brain cancer, but the other 3 are still there. I wonder what they think of all of this.

Jeff Stout 08-20-2020 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireofficer5 (Post 621347)
If you happen to listen to real news, the issue was political nonsense being worn.

There were no democratic endorsements allowed either.

Just like no maga hats were allowed.

BLM is not a political group.

LGBT rights are not a political group.

I love this feigned anger toward persons or business that brings out the

real color of a person.

I'm buying goodyear right now and getting all goodyear tires for my two

cougar drag cars.

Have a great life and lower that blood pressure, its sure to kill you.

Rick Pingol

Blue Lives Matter and All Lives MAtter are not political, yet on the no go side of the list. Care to explain the difference those and BLM LGBT ?

Goodyear employee wearing a MAGA Hat
M e
A t
G oodyear
A gain
Not political at all

MR DERBY CITY 08-20-2020 02:06 PM

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I love living in the USA....Imagine the look on the CEO s faces when they finally realize that they have ALIENATED the CUSTOMERS that are paying the bills..
.BYE BYE.....nascar ,nfl,nba, and now Goodyear.....I am DONE with you...GOOD LUCK .......

Jeff Stout 08-20-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 621366)
I love living in the USA....Imagine the look on the CEO s faces when they finally realize that they have ALIENATED the CUSTOMERS that are paying the bills..
.BYE BYE.....nascar ,nfl,nba, and now Goodyear.....I am DONE with you...GOOD LUCK .......

I agree. Plenty of choices in the tire market to buy from. Sports never cared about. NASCAR is now on do not watch list.

Mark Yacavone 08-20-2020 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireofficer5 (Post 621347)

BLM is not a political group.

LGBT rights are not a political group.



Rick Pingol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0DGjXE_BQQ

SStockDart 08-20-2020 04:00 PM

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Goodyear dug its hole deeper. I listened to the audio recording of the Topeka "zero tolerance" seminar. Absolutely no doubt what was said was discriminatory and racist. This all started with racist comments (presumably BLM) on rest room walls. Just google "audio from goodyear training session".

Jeff Stout 08-20-2020 06:21 PM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
So if I write stuff on the bathroom wall I can get stuff changed to my advantage? Where my magic marker 45 HP off my Olds motor coming soon.

SStockDart 08-20-2020 08:55 PM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 621383)
So if I write stuff on the bathroom wall I can get stuff changed to my advantage? Where my magic marker 45 HP off my Olds motor coming soon.

DONE.... amazing what one can get when you lay a guilt trip on someone. It goes like this..... Dear NHRA, I am writing so dat you will be aware that we are going to have peaceful protest and burn Glendora down cuz in 1918 Oldsmobile my grandpa din't like his Oldsmobile because it was the wrong color. We demand 45 HP back.,
Signed,
Olds Folks Matter

Just a joke folks....

Jeff Stout 08-20-2020 09:16 PM

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Olds Folks matter that's good.

Randy Guest 08-20-2020 09:19 PM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
Well i will keep running my mickey thompson or hoosier tires and they can sick them goodyears up there where the sun dont shine

Fireofficer5 08-20-2020 09:21 PM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
Pretty soon all some people are going to be able to do is look at each other.

That's all that will be there.

Because they hate other different people so much.

Their funeral will be in a phone booth.

Good luck AF.

Rick Pingol

Grey Ghost 08-20-2020 09:35 PM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 621396)
DONE.... amazing what one can get when you lay a guilt trip on someone. It goes like this..... Dear NHRA, I am writing so dat you will be aware that we are going to have peaceful protest and burn Glendora down cuz in 1918 Oldsmobile my grandpa din't like his Oldsmobile because it was the wrong color. We demand 45 HP back.,
Signed,
Olds Folks Matter

Just a joke folks....

May want to "warm" up on a Target are Burger King cuz apparently that is acceptable! Check with your local democratic mayor.

Grey Ghost 08-20-2020 09:48 PM

Re: Goodyear Contriversive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireofficer5 (Post 621399)
Pretty soon all some people are going to be able to do is look at each other.

That's all that will be there.

Because they hate other different people so much.

Their funeral will be in a phone booth.

Good luck AF.

Rick Pingol

Haven't seen a phone booth in decades! The last one got trashed in a "peaceful" protest...Ma Bell said to he** with it we're done with ya. You could have it in Biden's basement he won't notice.

SStockDart 08-20-2020 09:54 PM

Re: Goodyear Controversy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost (Post 621400)
May want to "warm" up on a Target are Burger King cuz apparently that is acceptable! Check with your local democratic mayor.

Phil, I'll keep that in mind. Phoenix has a "democrat" mayor (not democratic, maybe I don't get the joke) I do not live in Phoenix. I live in an area that seldom has a democrat run against our Republican. BTW...I see you are in Iowa. I spent the first 19 years of my life in SW Iowa.

SStockDart 08-20-2020 10:14 PM

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[QUOTE=Fireofficer5;621399]Pretty soon all some people are going to be able to do is look at each other.
Rick, you can't do that now......I understand that you are a firefighter, thank you. You probably don't read the numerous stories about black teens knocking out older white men and women.....every day, usually in New York. The usual excuse is they were high or they looked at them wrong, or they were the wrong color. This will all stop one day. I will say this....if a black man walks up and hits an elderly woman, in Texas or Arizona, the perp will be dead before he hits the ground. For those that think I am discriminating against blacks for knocking out old white people, show me one case where recently a white person has walked up to a black old lady and knocked her out. You can't.
So are we more divided now? Yes. Minorities are growing at a much faster rate. A conversation for another day.
Good day

Jeff Niceswanger 08-20-2020 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 621383)
So if I write stuff on the bathroom wall I can get stuff changed to my advantage? Where my magic marker 45 HP off my Olds motor coming soon.

Lets lighten the load a little bit .... Back when I was working for Essex Wire ( 1974 -1981 with 1300 women and 200 guys ) I was walking through the press room and stopped off to go to the can.The press room was full of huge punch presses ( Bliss, Brandys, Niagra's etc..) banging away making the electro-mechanical switch parts and brackets for all makes of American cars.The Japs hadn't showed up yet. Anyway, I headed into this dark,dingy, dirty restroom. The place was not only poorly lit, but so noisy if by chance you ran into someone in there it was hard to talk. You had to shout. But I was in there by myself. I sit down to do my business. The stalls had white plywood doors as well as the surrounding panels. I was sitting there looking to see if I could notice any graffiti and I noticed something spelled out in the bottom right hand side of the entrance door. It was written really, really small. I kept leaning closer so as to read it. But because of the dimness of the stall, I was having a bad time making out what it said. So I really stretched out and leaned down to finally see what had been written...
" YOU ARE NOW SHETING AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE "


Dag gone if I wasn't ! LOL
Whoever got down on their hands and knees to print those little letters was a real comedian ....

SStockDart 08-20-2020 10:52 PM

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That is funny...
Last night I was looking for something to laugh at on youtube. I found Ron White. He said "last night I got so drunk that when I woke up, someone had sh** my pants" I don't know who it was, but I'm sure he had corn. Lmao


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