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For anyone that is interested, I just got off the phone with Maple Grove and I was informed that spectators will not be allowed for the Divisional Sept. 25-27. That means that I am going to Virginia Motorsports Park for the double divisional Oct. 1-4.

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What are you talking about?
Not gonna happen

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PA Governor no more than 250 people in a place.

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James, I simply stated what I was told when I called the Maple Grove office. At the present time, the race is still on with no spectators.

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Not totally true as we had NASCAR events at Pocono recently ……...I've been told the race at the Grove will happen .

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Why this limit of 250? 1 acre of land = 43560 sqft. If every person has to keep a 6 foot radius then that is 113 sqft per person. 43560/113=385. At a minimum there should be 385 people per acre allowed at any event. Maple Grove Raceway is advertised as 450 acres so that is room for 173,250 people even with proper social distancing!

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Bobby the Gov needs to brush up on his math maybe you could help him .

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How many spectators are going to want to watch from some of the back acres there? The calculations are made for the spectator area.

BTW .. It is not a hard limit of 250. We got approval for a car show in Bucks County, Pa. to have more than that after we submitted a plan for how we would control spectator numbers, access, circulation and how they were spread over the entire show area. We worked with the county and got the OK. Unfortunately, we had to cancel the show because of liability issues if someone sued over COVID-19, but we did get approval to have the show.

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Probably the same reason Maple Grove nationals got canceled and the possible the points race

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Bobby do you want to be the guy pitted over by the bar? And as soon a you drive to the lanes social distancing goes out the window. But I agree with your concept 250 is dumb.

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So what state is the "Class Racer Nationals" in? :eek:


It sounds to me like some people know how to work with the PA Governor and some don't.


Stan

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points race will draw over 400 car plus people

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So Bob are you with us or against us racing ?seems like no Then stay home
Sorry no spectators. No place safer than the racetrack

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With you, but look at the facts. they canceled the Nationals and Numidia.

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I don't mean to be sarcastic - but seriously, how many spectators do D1 points meets get? It's a moot point.

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I would have to think it's more the question of WHO cancelled the nationals and numidia? NHRA? No profit, no race.

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Maple Grove always drew a good crowd on Saturday night because of the $25/carload and fireworks. Lebanon Valley usually draws a decent crowd on Saturday in the day and many then go over to the dirt track next door for the night. Cecil County usually draws a decent crowd on Saturday. Atco usually does not get much of a crowd. New England gets a decent crowd on Saturday. I have not been to Numidia since Max Naylor owned it but it always drew a decent crowd on Saturdays. Virginia has a fair crowd on Saturdays. Englishtown never drew much of a crowd for divisional races.

It really depends on the time of year. Most tracks only get a decent crowd on Saturdays and it gets harder to draw crowds once you get into football season.

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Don't ignore insurance companies and lawyers. In the case of the car show I was working on, we had approval from the board of health. Then the lawyers got involved with liability waivers and stuff like that.

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The problem with the 250 number is that it does not consider density. 250 people in my back yard is a lot different than 250 people in a football field. We were working ona car show and got approval for 1,000 at any given time based on the distance we were planning between every show car. We were also going with two-hour timed tickets to make sure not everyone came at once.

We presented the plans to the county board of health and got the OK. Then the lawyers got involved.

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In Pennsylvania, you work through the county boards of health. Some counties are more strict than others depending on how widespread COVID-19 is in that county and on the plans that are submitted by the organizers.

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So does "no spectators" mean no one not attacked to a car? Will crew/owner be allowed with the driver? My brain hurts from all of this stuff.

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Joe,
I know what the track is doing for the race this weekend and the .90 Nationals is no spectators but, your allowed "3 Crew" per car and only one person on the starting line at once with a car, masks must be worn when talking to a MG official and when entering the gates also. I think all our heads hurt after the way 2020 has been

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Try not to worry too much, guys. This will all be over soon. Once the election is behind us, the true seriousness of COVID-19 will become obvious (i.e. that it's no more serious than any other flu-like event in history, and that best and fastest way to get it under control would have been to NOT try to quarantine everyone). This is a manufactured crisis, over which we have absolutely no control, anyway. Unfortunately, facts and legitimate statistics mean NOTHING to the average American sheep, so we're listening to our "leaders", as they make guess after guess after guess, as to what works against the virus.

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I hope you right swig. Because real racing can continue.