Strange happenings in Stock race 1 in Tx.
 

Bouges beats Hidalgo J.r in the first round, but Jr is back for round 2? Lance line beats Brannon,but Brannon is back in rd 2 to beat Ben line in a heads up. Go figure?

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There are no win lights operating past the scoreboards. Racers have no idea who won if not a red light. Pitiful! As far the rules, I have no clue.
Somebody at the end of the season is going to be really upset about this as one round can make a Big difference in points!

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The announcer said Bouges didn’t report to the scales.

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having a paper time slip sure would be handy when win lights dont work,especially when you have a flip phone like me!....Victor Penrod

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Just talked with Doug Duell. Like Brett said .... no win lights or time tickets. People that won , thought they lost, and didn't go to the scales and fuel check. Sounds like a bad situation..... Is a smart phone considered loose Ballast? LOL

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A cheap solution would be for the tower to radio to the scales who won, they could even give you a thumbs 👍 or down 👎would solve the problem, YATHINK ?

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That was my suggestion at the Indy point race (Saturday)
No idea if you won or lost. I simple thumb up and you stop
at the scale.
How hard could it be and I don't think it is that un-resonable
of a request from the racer. After paying $200 to race

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Why would everybody not go across the scales, just to be safe?

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We use to always stop at the scales to make sure the other guy weighed ok. But I'm old also haha.



Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

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Can't give you Like here, Mr 1.
I don't like any of this non- paper time slip crap, but geez...

You can buy a NEW Samsung A 11 for less than 200 bucks, with a year warrantee..It'll
do anything you need to do here.. Maybe 50 bucks a month for basic internet..Verizon will give veterans 10% off of that.
You guys spend a grand to go to a points meet, so don't tell me you can't afford this. ;-)

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Also happened to Davidson against Koivisto. And Mr. wright...they don’t want everyone to go across the scales....only the winners.

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I was wondering what happened as some the runs I looked at in round 1 seemed to have the losers in round 2. They need to have some system to let the winners know they won other than by cell phone. I would never think to carry my phone and if I did it would probably die about when I needed it.

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Uh, so we are supposed to carry the NEW Samsung in the car and dial the www between the end of the track BUT before the scales to see who won ???....AGAIN I say to NHRA, please stop the MADNESS and give us OUR friggin time slips....

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Maybe everyone should cross scales to emphasize how stupid no paper time slips are?

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I don't like it either, but seems like an I-phone is just another requirement this year. Just like 15-20 dollar gas, two year belts, etc.

Seems to me, without a red light in the other lane and early win light, when you can win or lose my thousandths, why not just stop at scales until Jr. downloads the time slip for you ?

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Why not jam-up the scales and fuel check and see how long it takes NHRA to fix the problem that they are trying to create?

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Sounds do able to me.

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I always wait at the scales if I lost a round just to be sure. My dad has been reinstated over the years a couple times when the winner drove on by the scales. And I'm one of the young ones at 51...

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I never carry a phone in the race car or even in my pocket on race day.
I concentrate on racing and do not want calls or texts when I am racing.
I just do not need the distraction.
Maybe just me.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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I just shut my ringer off in the lanes.
Nice to have a phone if your car quits at the last turnoff...Or maybe you meet a potential customer in the lanes during a half hour cleanup..You want to save his number.
Too much of a convenience, in today's world , to go without it.
Maybe just me ;-)

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And then there's Gainesville, where much like Norwalk, the cell service and internet is nearly non existent.....

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In the old days before all the electronic gadgets and win signs and lights at the finish line we just went to fuel check and the scales. The guy there waved you on or put you on the scales. Why does it matter on a dial in race, anyway?? Only time it really matters is on a heads up.
Like Ed wright said.. Just stop at the scales...You would think that when the place starts looking like a parking lot at fuel check and the scales someone will figure out a workable solution.
Does any one remember the tracks that you had to go to the tower and get your time card out of a box at the bottom of the chute/tube to tell your ET and win/loss was marked on it?

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They only paperless et slip system I have used is the one at Tulsa and think it is great. I have no problem with it.

However in my opinion for this type of system to work there has to be a way for a driver to know easily if they won or not.

I think it is travesty that at least two drivers lost because they did not know they had won on the track.

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"...Does any one remember the tracks that you had to go to the tower and get your time card out of a box at the bottom of the chute/tube to tell your ET and win/loss was marked on it? "

Yeah, it was that way when I started, in '73.

The tube was made of PVC pipe. And if someone was not there to catch the slips when they dropped, you'd have to dig thru a pile of slips, to find yours.

Here's a couple of pics from '73, at our local track. I didn't even remember having this 1st pic. It shows me in the pits, just coming back from teching in. I pulled it to the track with a tow bar, & hadn't changed tires yet.

The 2nd pic is the one I'd hoped would show the time slip tube/pipe. The sign in the background was on the side of our little tower, & the time-slip tube was on the corner. But, it's just out of the pic. Anyhow, this brings back lots of pleasant memories.

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Agreed! I had a run where we were the last pair of Stockers at Cecil County, neither car started after shutdown and Super Street was running but exit to the left not right. Neither of us had a phone either. Had to get the attention of the tech on the otherside between rounds. I always have the phone now.
Plus weather station updates. Live timing. Double checking what your opponent ran previously. Etc etc.

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Even into early 1980s Byron had a rain gutter for time slips to slide down and then pin up slips on bulletin board

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Back a few years ago Ricky Decker had his car shift twice while on the starting line. He was attempting to stage, and as he looked down the car had mysteriously somehow ended up in second gear. He puts it back in 1st gear, and it happens a second time. He was thinking WTH. So he makes his run. At the end of the track, on the return road he notices "2 missed calls" . His phone happened to be laying right beside the shifter box. Ever since that day, I have never carried a phone in my car. And if I forget, I turn it off. Maybe a fluke, but RFI is not something to ignore.

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I remember this very well at Ardmore Okla. in the early eighties. They gave you et , no reaction time . The mph was in milliseconds for the at that time 132 ft speed trap, you had to look at a chrondek chart on the wall to convert to mph. I remember by the end of the day it was sometimes hard to find our slip because there were so many in the box, seems alot of people didnt bother to go get them. There was one guy with a vega deep staging, I had no understanding why, but he won alot. Seems like a long time ago. My current super stock would've been a brand new car then.

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Most of the posts seem to suggest that accessing the competitor's run data is something they might do as they drive from their turnoff back toward the scales and/or fuel check. Conceivably, that is manageable in an automatic trans equipped car but, I'm aware that it's a very small number, but could someone describe exactly how a cutchless manual shift Super Stock accomplish this without pulling over and stopping on the return road? One hand is committed to steering the vehicle and the other occupied holding the trans in gear; no passenger permitted. Paper seems the only reasonable answer even if that requires NHRA to supply "another" minimum-wage employee to hand out time slips; I feel we all understand that this is the core dilemma causing this unworkable change.

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I cannot see the win lights at all. Several cannot. Why can’t the track crew or NHRA crew stand at scale and say win or not??? How hard can that be????

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I grew up at the Ardmore track ,just got home from there today watching a few customers,and I believe the mph chart is still in the bottom of the tower....when I was about 9 or 10 yrs old,my mom sat in a booth with a phone and I handed out the hand written slips before the “tube” came along.....Victor Penrod

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Well, after all.. it is a Billy Meyer owned facility....That pretty much says it all.....

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Oh yeah, yes indeed. I remember the guy that used to go to the old Houston track (and Porter) with me. He was notorious for running to the tower to get my time slip and then getting distracted on his way back! Here I sit on the fender of the old open trailer in the boiling Texas heat wondering what the car had just run.
Ah..... the good 'ol days.

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So wait, Self tech but you have to go across the scales on a dial in race?

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They announced several times yesterday the winlites on the wall past the finish were not working if your not sure who won ...stop at the scales and they will send you to fuel check if need be. Today the winlites on the wall were working....now. .. i take my phone down the track with me you just have to download the app no big deal lots of info there. Motorplex staff is doing a great job. 2nd round 8AM....good night

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Just downloaded the app? Really.
It’s a mutha **&$#(
. Problem when racers are losing races because of no win light or time slip
If it’s so dangerous to give out a time slip why are they racing ?
I shouldn’t need my phone to race my car
. Give a time slip like it’s regular weekend
It’s BS stop being sheep....... and demand a time slip
Not asking for much.

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I went to the NHRA Div 5 Summit Racing ET finals yesterday at Heartland Park, to help my Nephew out. This is a NHRA Race, no face mask required at the starting line, paper time slips. You would of not known there was a chinese flu problem. Like it should be.

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I thought it was considered dangerous to operate a motor vehicle when using a cell phone.

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Did they install driver win lights or improve the old ones?

Today (Sunday) on Dragracer.tv I could see them flashing.

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Mickey would be proud of you Billy! LOL