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John Dinkel 09-27-2020 10:48 AM

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It sure is nice to see Drag racers stand for the National Anthem.

Pistol Pete 09-27-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Dinkel (Post 624446)
It sure is nice to see Drag racers stand for the National Anthem.

That’s because Drag Racers are not over payed pu$$___s !!!!

Stan Weiss 09-27-2020 12:38 PM

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Yes, Freedom of Choice and Freedom of Expression are what make this country great.


Stan

davidhuff 09-27-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 624452)
Yes, Freedom of Choice and Freedom of Expression are what make this country great.


Stan

I agree 100%,Do you stand for the National Anthem?
I sure do stand for the National Anthem and also I served my country in the United States Navy.

Stan Weiss 09-27-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 624455)
I agree 100%,Do you stand for the National Anthem?
I sure do stand for the National Anthem and also I served my country in the United States Navy.


Yes, I stand for the National Anthem and also I served my country in the United States Army.


But I don't have the problem many here do about someone who does not stand.



Stan

John Brown 09-27-2020 01:44 PM

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As someone who fought and bled for this country the National Anthem means something to me. I am disgusted by those who were born in this country and revile the flag and it's anthem.

Superfan1 09-27-2020 02:17 PM

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I served this country for 4 years (1967-1971) in the Navy on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships. I stand for the National Anthem, but I strongly support anyone who chooses not to. As has been stated many times going back 4 years to Colin Kapernick; this is not about disrespecting the flag, the United States, or veterans; it is about calling attention to the problems that still exist in this country today. I served this country to preserve our freedoms as Americans and one of those freedoms has always been, and hopefully always will be, freedom of expression.

Jeff Stout 09-27-2020 03:50 PM

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I was busy in thought yesterday at track, and out of know where the anthem started. I stopped and looked for flag and seen everyone stopped and hats off. Drag racers know what's what.

Chevy55 09-27-2020 06:37 PM

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I served in Vietnam and I'm proud that our Countrymen have the privilege to peacefully protest. IMO if any Right in this Country should be made mandatory it should be the Right to Vote.
We're a Republic that follows the principles of Democracy and that is a very fragile form of Government and voter apathy is a sure way to lose it.

bykr 09-27-2020 07:52 PM

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And look what abuses of freedom of expression has led to ,anarchy in the streets. I believe disrespect of the flag and the anthem were the beginnings of our current situation. And things are so much better :confused:

Mark Yacavone 09-27-2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 624459)
I stand for the National Anthem, but I strongly support anyone who chooses not to. As has been stated many times going back 4 years to Colin Kapernick;

I think I agree with this part.
If someone wants to make a fool out of himself, don't stop him .Stand back and let him have at it.
By the way , how's that working out for him?

SStockDart 09-27-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 624459)
I stand for the National Anthem, but I strongly support anyone who chooses not to. As has been stated many times going back 4 years to Colin Kapernick; /QUOTE]

I think I agree with this part.
If someone wants to make a fool out of himself, don't stop him .Stand back and let him have at it.
By the way , how's that working out for him?

I really don't understand someone that takes a compromised position.... Colin could be BLM and KKK? Right?

Stan Weiss 09-27-2020 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 624490)
I think I agree with this part.
If someone wants to make a fool out of himself, don't stop him .Stand back and let him have at it.
By the way , how's that working out for him?


The real question is. Why did it workout that way for him?


Stan

Mark Yacavone 09-27-2020 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 624497)
The real question is. Why did it workout that way for him?


Stan

It's not to me . I already know, and I don't even follow football.

Superpro 09-27-2020 10:18 PM

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When at a Northern US border track, I stand for my Canadian home country anthem and remain standing for yours. Your show of respect for my country at your races warrants my respect for your country as well!

Bench Racer 09-27-2020 11:57 PM

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IMHO if you choose to not stand for the National Anthem you are a POS. Do a Google search for POS just in case you don't know what it means. I make no apologies for my comments. You either love America or you need cross the border.

Stan Weiss 09-28-2020 01:27 AM

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IMHO if you choose to not stand for the National Anthem you are a POS. Do a Google search for POS just in case you don't know what it means. I make no apologies for my comments. You either love America or you need cross the border.


Sorry but we must live in different worlds. :eek: So I did a Google search on POS and came up with just what I believed it meant.


Stan

Adger Smith 09-28-2020 02:23 AM

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Sorry, Bill. I feel anyone has the right/freedom to protest ,but protesting during the National Anthem is the wrong time and place. That is a time for showing respect and honor to our flag and country.
Should have been stopped the minute it started and another way to protest found. JMHO...

Larry Hill 09-28-2020 07:51 AM

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Sorry, Bill. I feel anyone has the right/freedom to protest ,but protesting during the National Anthem is the wrong time and place. That is a time for showing respect and honor to our flag and country.

James Perrone 09-28-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 624497)
The real question is. Why did it workout that way for him?


Stan

Because he sucked as a quarter back and didn’t like being told he’s not starting and he’s gonna he aback up. Had an opportunity to show he’s as qb that hasn’t been given to anyone else. And sabotage the opportunity Wearing a Kunta Kinta shirt At his workout and told the nfl to go screws. Self inflicted sabotage That how it worked out.
Tell me I’m wrong. Entitled. Cry baby. Millionaire

Wayne Kerr 09-28-2020 11:24 AM

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Thank you John and all of our veterans.
Well said Larry Hill.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

davidhuff 09-28-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 624452)
Yes, Freedom of Choice and Freedom of Expression are what make this country great.


Stan

This Peaceful Freedom of Expression BS you stand for has just about destroyed Portland,Or downtown with millions of dollars in damage and murder.How do I know this,I ****ing live here.

GTS340 09-28-2020 12:10 PM

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My Dad turned 18 yrs old Dec 6, 1943. He served his time dodging bullets in the Philippines. My Great great Grandmother fresh from Germany lost two brothers in the civil war.
I proudly display My Dad's Flag and metals. I stand in honor of him and all those who gave their all.
With all my heart...Thank You America.

Paul Haszlauer

jmcarter 09-28-2020 12:12 PM

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Bill, think you already know how much I respect you, your devotion to country and the freedom of speech that many of us fought for. I've been conflicted about this for some time and I personally accept that complete racial equality (as taught by the three men I admire the most, i.e. America Pie) is decades past being achieved. But having served in SEA as a medic I zipped up far too many body bags to agree with this means of protest. Even failing to remove your hat falls into the same category with me so I'm pretty rigid on this. I don't feel that taking a knee has done any more than harden the hearts that need adjusting. Also recognize that all of our hearts are in need of adjustment, its part of the sanctification process after all.

Jeff Stout 09-28-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 624546)
This Peaceful Freedom of Expression BS you stand for has just about destroyed Portland,Or downtown with millions of dollars in damage and murder.How do I know this,I ****ing live here.

That's such a sad deal. Watching what happened on TV shows the devastation and loss of control in the city.

Carguy49 09-28-2020 01:18 PM

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Rioting is NOT protesting. All it does is destroy property.

There is no one answer for the shape this country is in except to get down on our knees and PRAY, daily.

A BIG thank you to all the men and women who have served and, especially those that paid the ultimate price. I walk by my Dad's picture, framed discharge papers and dog tags each day and say Thank You.

I don't have the skills to add a video here. So if someone could do it for me, thank you.. The video is of Reba McEntire's song "Back to God"

Superfan1 09-28-2020 01:55 PM

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As is usually the case when there are very divergent opinions; there is confusion. Rioters, looters, and arsonists are not peaceful protestors and should be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. What happened in Portland was not peaceful in any way and those involved should have been arrested and prosecuted. The protests that Martin Luther King led were peaceful, most of the recent protests across America have been peaceful; and if it weren't for the protests such as the Boston Tea Party that led to the American Revolution, America might still be a British colony.

jmcarter 09-28-2020 01:59 PM

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https://youtu.be/S9q-08aTNh8

Carguy49 09-28-2020 02:16 PM

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Jim, thank you and God Bless You.

Superfan1 09-28-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 624490)
I think I agree with this part.
If someone wants to make a fool out of himself, don't stop him .Stand back and let him have at it.
By the way , how's that working out for him?

Kapernick had the courage of his convictions to take an unpopular stand which ultimately led to him losing his job. Muhammad Ali similarly had the courage of his convictions in 1967 when he refused to be drafted which led to him being banned from boxing for 3 years. Both men put their personal feelings and convictions above their jobs and monetary gains.

James Perrone 09-28-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 624568)
Kapernick had the courage of his convictions to take an unpopular stand which ultimately led to him losing his job. Muhammad Ali similarly had the courage of his convictions in 1967 when he refused to be drafted which led to him being banned from boxing for 3 years. Both men put their personal feelings and convictions above their jobs and monetary gains.

Really. ?
Ali was banned. Fought in the courts to get what he wanted and was a world champion
Kaepernick wasn’t even a starting quarterback on his team and a millionaire and he’s thinks he’s aBlack Panther 1969 tough guy. Get real.
He blew up his potential job interview. Kunta Kinta shirt at his own tryout
Not A Hero.

SStockDart 09-28-2020 05:10 PM

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There was a time before video cameras where these rioters would have tripped on a curb and broke both arms, his nose, a jaw, and had teeth fall out. Just like the Marines a few years ago that caught a guy that stabbed a fellow Marine. Oops, he fell down.

Lenny5160 09-28-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 624589)
There was a time before video cameras where these rioters would have tripped on a curb and broke both arms, his nose, a jaw, and had teeth fall out. Just like the Marines a few years ago that caught a guy that stabbed a fellow Marine. Oops, he fell down.

Unfortunately the same thing happened to a lot of innocent people of color. Kind of what this anthem stuff is all about.

Bob Mulry 09-28-2020 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 624497)
The real question is. Why did it workout that way for him?


Stan

Since I am a '49er fan I'll see if I can help you....

He was drafted after some scouts bought in to the "pistol", not shotgun, offensive game plan. Coach Jim Harbaugh built a complete offense around Krapernack to utilize the pistol offense. Krapernack was not able to read defenses and had not accuracy or touch on his passes. As an option running QB he was OK, until they came up with defenses that made him think about his options and most of the time it was wrong. His QB rating was so low that he was benched and became the second or third string QB. I don't know what was in his contract, but he became a free agent and he wasn't good enough to be signed. The NFL has welcomed back dog fighters, spousal abusers, murderers, dope dealers and users, if you had the TALENT TO PLAY THE GAME. Krapernack didn't.

davidhuff 09-28-2020 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 624568)
Kapernick had the courage of his convictions to take an unpopular stand which ultimately led to him losing his job. Muhammad Ali similarly had the courage of his convictions in 1967 when he refused to be drafted which led to him being banned from boxing for 3 years. Both men put their personal feelings and convictions above their jobs and monetary gains.

Really,received Five Million Dollars in 2019 in a settlement from the NFL for doing nothing.

Fred Elsass 09-29-2020 11:57 AM

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I would join in the discussion but the person who controls the content of posts does not appreciate my opinion.


SMSgt Fred Elsass. USAF, Retired
1962-1989

John Kissel 09-29-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 624589)
There was a time before video cameras where these rioters would have tripped on a curb and broke both arms, his nose, a jaw, and had teeth fall out. Just like the Marines a few years ago that caught a guy that stabbed a fellow Marine. Oops, he fell down.

Yes it would be nice not to be having fools burning down buildings, looting everything in sight, paint getting spilled all over streets, AND waking up in the morning and not hearing about another police officer or officers getting shot. Gee, things sure were different, and nice like Sunoco 260 for $.32 a gallon.

Eddies66 09-30-2020 09:24 AM

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There are an estimated 40,056 homeless veterans living in the United States. Forty percent of these homeless veterans live in places "not suitable for human habitation." I have put in way to many and still the VA shrugs their shoulder and telsl me "we just don't have enough space to accommodate any additional people". I will take a knee until this wrong is righted. Semper fi



Ed Kaatz
Mustanger, USMC (ret)
Service Officer, American Legion Post 9
Nevada Veterans Advocate

jmcarter 09-30-2020 09:45 AM

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Eddie, there are many wrongs in today's world and unfortunately the plight of so many veterans is but one of them. But is nothing sacred? Can we not all stand during the National Anthem to at minimum pay allegience to the ideals it represents and to pay honor to all those who served in hopes of those ideals being one day realized (within the grasp of humans at least)? There is surely some things that we can honor as being sacred.

Eddies66 09-30-2020 12:34 PM

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I don't want this to become a political issue. I hold the Constitution of the country sacred, the rights to VA Benefits is protected by that very document. The Federal Circuit held in Cushman v. Shinseki that applicants for veterans‘ benefits have a constitutionally protected property interest in their application for benefits. Accordingly, such applicants are entitled to constitutionally prescribed procedures in connection with their claims for benefits under the terms of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution as is the right to peaceful protest.


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