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DYER 09-30-2020 02:11 PM

lance line
 
why is nothing being said about lance lines $3,000 fine from nhra???? maybe nhra should have fined the track no working win lites at end of track ,no time slips could the track had a person at end of track with a walkee talkee to point to the winner of race???

GUMP 09-30-2020 02:34 PM

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Does anyone else feel like the NHRA is giving out a whole lot of fines lately? 🤑

Mike Fuller 09-30-2020 02:45 PM

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Trying to make up for lost revenue. What did he do?

ss3011 09-30-2020 02:53 PM

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The fine is posted on NHRARACER

nhramnl 09-30-2020 03:45 PM

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Yeah, and Lance has always been such a hard case. A regular Rebel Without a Cause.

Mike Fuller 09-30-2020 04:11 PM

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Can someone explain this to me?

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...039&zoneid=132

RJ Sledge 09-30-2020 04:39 PM

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Somebody needs to rethink this action.
Lance Line and a couple of other racers who won there 1st round races on Friday had their victory stolen from then.
This is wrong and calmer heads need to realize this.

He only followed the NHRA people’s command and then realized he won the race after arriving back at his trailer.
RJ

Lew Silverman 09-30-2020 04:43 PM

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JeremyDuncan 09-30-2020 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 624768)

Fire bottles have safety pin in them so they don't go off unexpectedly. Those pins are suppose to be removed during pass so the fire bottles can be activated by driver if a fire incident occurs.

G Schenck 09-30-2020 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 624768)

Same as
Statement of Action Against Participant
The following action has been taken against Steve Matusek regarding the non-removal of the fire bottle safety pin prior to his run during eliminations at Lucas Oil Raceway that occurred on September 6, 2020 during the DENSO Spark Plugs NHRA U.S. Nationals. Matusek has been fined Two Thousand Five Hundred dollars ($2,500). The fine will be dedicated to enhancing the capabilities of the Safety Safari. This action is appealable.

Gary Smith 09-30-2020 05:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 624761)
Does anyone else feel like the NHRA is giving out a whole lot of fines lately? 🤑

I think NHRA is a FINE organization.:confused::rolleyes::eek:

e vassar 09-30-2020 07:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Sledge (Post 624770)
Somebody needs to rethink this action.
Lance Line and a couple of other racers who won there 1st round races on Friday had their victory stolen from then.
This is wrong and calmer heads need to realize this.

He only followed the NHRA people’s command and then realized he won the race after arriving back at his trailer.
RJ

This is a very unfortunate incident to say the least
I cant speak for NHRA or the Motorplex, but now I always carry my phone in the car,we may not like it but it probably won't change this year.
2nd round race one, Jerry Emmons and I were tied together at the finish line. I did not see my light on the wall. We both pulled off the return road,he came back to my car and said "who won?" I pulled out my phone and said "you did" By the time I got back to the trailer they were announcing to make sure who won before you drive past the scales. I know...doesn't help Lance, but would hate to see it happen again.

sammy pizzolato 09-30-2020 08:06 PM

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They should have paper time slips. That is such BULL CRAP no paper time slips. and so much for this corona mess. how much would it cost to have a time slip booth person!!!!!!!!!!!! and so much for the germs. all this mess makes me wan't to quit. Lance Line is a better man then me.i would be in Jail i am sorry. who needs to weigh after you qualify anyway. unless it's a head's up run who cares what you weight.

James Findell 09-30-2020 10:10 PM

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Something smells like alot of BS here. Lance and his entire family are one the nicest racing families I've met in my young life as I approach 45 years old. My daughters look forward to seeing them every weekend we race. NHRA has lost track of what racing is about. We pay alot of $ to support their events. It is supposed to be a fun experience. If NHRA needs more income, let's start rolling cams....

5389stk 09-30-2020 10:23 PM

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My 2 cents. Division director should have done the right thing.Reinstated,Bill Bogues,Don Davidson, Lance Line.That would have been the right thing to do. As for time slips if you can hand me a fuel check cup you can hand me a time slip.

Jim Cimarolli 09-30-2020 10:25 PM

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The Motorplex should have had the win lights on the guard rail working before the event started, they had to know they weren't. With that said, they knew what confusion this was going to create.

GTS340 09-30-2020 11:29 PM

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Very sad of events. Why the scales had to make the difference in the out come of the actual race is a bit crazy. Rules are rules.. Did someone tell Bobby to cross the scales? Lance travels down from division 5 to a poorly run deal and has to buy the new light bulbs and printer ink for the next race. I can only guess there was a language barrier that earned the fine.

Paul Haszlauer

Chuck Gallagher 10-01-2020 08:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 624768)

We often told our kids growing up that they were being punished not just for what they said but more for the way they said it.
Attitude adjustment?

Nmbr1GMfan 10-01-2020 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato (Post 624801)
They should have paper time slips. That is such BULL CRAP no paper time slips. and so much for this corona mess. how much would it cost to have a time slip booth person!!!!!!!!!!!! and so much for the germs. all this mess makes me wan't to quit. Lance Line is a better man then me.i would be in Jail i am sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5389stk (Post 624819)
As for time slips if you can hand me a fuel check cup you can hand me a time slip.

100% agreed! This crap is why we've not been racing for months NO FUN! 1 hand doesn't know what the other is doing on track and the racers will pay for it in fines. We're coming back this weekend for a National Open and if anything smells rotten I'll be leaving early.

James Perrone 10-01-2020 06:28 PM

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Terrible decision by Nhra.
I’m sure Lance was on the CHIP when he found out he got screwed
It BS that he had a round win given away by incompetence of the people in charge
We should set up a donation to The Free Lance Line Fund.
I’m in for a few $$$$
. Let’s do something for him he stood up for everyone else

Jim Hanig 10-02-2020 07:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5389stk (Post 624819)
My 2 cents. Division director should have done the right thing.Reinstated,Bill Bogues,Don Davidson, Lance Line.That would have been the right thing to do. As for time slips if you can hand me a fuel check cup you can hand me a time slip.

Ya but they need the fuel for the scooters.

Bobby Brannon 10-02-2020 09:51 PM

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Mr. GTS340. No one told me to go to scales. I don't carry a cell phone in my car. I didn't see any win lights. To Lance he went to end of track and I turn 1 exit before. Not know who won so I went to scales asked and they didn't know. They told me to get on scales. Then go to fuel check which I did. I am sure I messed Lance up because he saw me on scales. I never saw him at the scales because he was behind me. While I fuel he drove by me. I told all the tech officials I didn't know if I won. Got back to my trailer and Conner told me Lance had won. I said he drove pass me at fuel check. Conner said to go back to fuel check. They DQ Lance. D4 should have had win lites working . They did not. For Lance to be fined because he was mad at tech deal is wrong.

4406mopar 10-02-2020 10:20 PM

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Every car should go across the scales, this will get them to do something to fix the problem. Jam up them scales every round.

How much Time and money does it cost to go to an event? And then to lose like that.

Randall Klein 10-02-2020 10:45 PM

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Well......Mr Perone, what is happening with your suggestion for The Lance Line Fund?
I have my $100 in hand......what now?
Anybody?

Or just talk?

James Findell 10-02-2020 11:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 624957)
Well......Mr Perone, what is happening with your suggestion for The Lance Line Fund?
I have my $100 in hand......what now?
Anybody?

Or just talk?

Randall,

I'll toss in a $100 for the Fund.

NHRA needs to focus on the want versus need. I want to race their events, but I do not need to. I like our local track. My wonderful wife and I raced BIR last weekend for a S/SS race. Only 10 cars due to other events. We both won R1 before it rained out. Got a check in the mail today for $152 each. I've lost R6 at a points meet a few times and haven't done much better. As I get older, I'm going to go with the track / association that actually wants us there. We have fun from the time we get there until we go home. I think that's how it is supposed to work...

Jeff Teuton 10-02-2020 11:23 PM

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Notice the thing can be appealed. That means they will forgive it and keep the appeal money. Not right but not quite as bad. It would be easier to just forget it.

RJ Sledge 10-03-2020 08:36 AM

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Count me in for a $100.00 towards whatever Lance wants to apply it to....... fine or appeal......litigation? Your choice just let me know where to send it.

RJ

Tom Meyer 10-03-2020 10:26 AM

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Where do I send my money?? Tom

ssracer3821 10-03-2020 11:04 AM

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I'll send him $100 - just say where!

Chuck Gallagher 10-03-2020 02:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4406mopar (Post 624956)
Every car should go across the scales, this will get them to do something to fix the problem. Jam up them scales every round.

How much Time and money does it cost to go to an event? And then to lose like that.

I have been on both sides of this issue so I'm going to break my personal rule not to argue with people about personal issues.
NHRA often has to get volunteers to help create, sort and pass out ET slips at many regional events. With the current limitations we all have had this year it is not always possible to get enough volunteers to do all the jobs that need to be done.
I cannot count the times I have been in this same situation and I ALWAYS stop at fuel check and the scales until an NHRA official tells me I lost.
I don't know if Lance was acting out in an "unprofessional and disruptive behavior toward an NHRA official" or a volunteer and it doesn't really matter. If I was on the receiving end of foul and/or abusive behavior I would have expected either an apology before that person left the venue or I would have recommended the same action. We are suppose to be friends with these people who provide a safe environment for our use.
Remember the golden rule?
Chuck Gallagher

Chevy55 10-03-2020 04:32 PM

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IDK



Statement of Action Against Participant
The following action has been taken against Lance Line regarding his unprofessional and disruptive behavior toward an NHRA official at Texas Motorplex in Ennis, Texas on September 18, 2020 during Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event #45. Line has been fined Three Thousand dollars ($3,000).This action is appealable.



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