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Looking for some recommendations for front shock issues. 67 Camaro, Moroso trick front coil springs, Steel headed big block Chevy, turbo 400, full interior, 3700 #'s with 200 # driver. Car wheel stands 2-3 feet in the air. 60 foot 1.35-1.37, Actually tripped the 60 ft. timer with the back tires this passed week. The problem is the landing. It bottoms out the suspension so bad that it's actually knocked the head lights out of the car, and cracked one of the header tubes. I use Afco 3840F/BNC front shocks. They have been sent back to Afco several times, to be re-valved to fix this problem, with only minor results. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm passed the point of the Afco shock's ability to control the landing. I know there are several Stock and Super Stock cars doing 2-3 foot wheel stands out there. I understand I am 200-300 pounds heavier than a typical big block Camaro, but there must be a way that these other cars are dealing with this issue better than my situation. Looking for suggestions. Thanks.

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Do you have wheelie bars ? How far do they sit off the ground ?

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Either send your current shocks to Randy at FastShocks or talk to Marty Rinehart at Rinehart Performance for the proper Santhuff shocks and front springs.

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My truck had the same issue back when it did those modest 2-3 footer wheelstands with budget shocks......it got Santhuffs and problem solved.........add more power a few 10 footers and even the mightiest of shocks and other parts will show some wear and tear.(especially if you have to lift up there)

Now if you like the challenge of ripping of a 00light when your car/truck is going to the moon, you are going to have to compromise a touch so you can dial that beast.

Don't cheap out on the front $ wise......

Changes like a bit of weight up there, running it less extention, lowering those bars not tough......

Myself excluded of course, I'm ripping it and in a foul mood if I don't 60 foot on the rear tires.(truck only)

Eric

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How does the wear and tear of towing effect the sustainability of racing shocks?

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I'm a believer that the front shocks are more important than the rears and I would spend the money on Santhuffs because their valving / internal design can be adjusted to control the bounce from large wheelies. JMHO

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Tow for a couple of hours and then stop and put your hand on the race cars shocks to see how hot they are. That will be your answer.

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I had the exact same Afco shocks on my Super Stock Corvette. No matter what I did with the shocks, I had difficulty controlling the wheelstands and could not get the bounce out. Smacked the pan hard once as well. I put the recommended Santhuff shocks on from Marty Reinhardt. It was probably the best money I spent in years on the car. I can make the car wheelstand or leave like a Pro Stocker with minor adjustments, and I have no more bounce or bottoming out.

I don't have any experience with Fastshocks, but I have heard good things about them as well.

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I use Santhuff shocks on both of my cars and i sell and stock them as well, if ya need any or have any question, Thanks Brian, 407 474 0898

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Here is a photo of the car this past weekend

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Here is what it looks like on the landing. OUCH!

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Tripping the 60 foot timer with the rear tires.

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Jeff Jewel, thanks for the info sir. Sounds like you've had some experiences like mine. Beautiful car, on and off the track. Your car has picture perfect launches. I remember pitting next to you years ago at Englishtown. You and your wife were very kind to us. Nice to meet great people like you in our sport. Guess some times you just have to bite the bullet and spend the money for good quality parts.

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Santhuff is what you need. I have a gen 1 Camaro and I have Santhuff fronts on it. They will stop that issue for sure. They aren’t cheap but will fix your issue. Mine was similar to yours. Big wheel stands and tires scrubbing the inner wheel wells. Been running the Santuff shocks for about 15 years now. You have to do some fabrication on the lower a arms to get them to fit. I highly recommended them.

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You almost wrote my story with your experience. 3-4 foot wheelstands clicking the 60' clocks and even carrying the front end out to 300'.....but what goes up must come down and when it did there were issues. The Afcos were useless on both my stocker and super stocker even after dynoed and revalved. The Calvert front shocks were just waaayy too loose and I had to get it under control. PMR put Santhuffs on the cars and .....problem solved. I still have niced controlled wheelstands on both cars but they touch down like a 737 with a long runway.....expensive...but in my case very much worth it. Call Tony or Phil Mandella (909) 941-7800 to get this fixed.

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Thank you for the referral
We are a stocking dealer and can answer any questions you may have. We also help you with starting points and how & when to adjust them.
Call 717-793-6819 and let us know how we can help you.

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Santhuff shocks are the answer to controlling wheelstands ,and more importantly , landing after a wheelstand .
Yes, there are other shocks that have valving that does do a good job, Santhuff's seem to do it much smoother and with greater adjustability .
Both Eric Merryfield and Jeff Jewell are customers who have had success with Santuff shocks . ...Jeff's dad Larry's Vette is in my shop right now getting a pair installed that were purchased from Rinehart Performance .
I recommend Santhuffs for all my Stock/ Super Stock builds not only for the launch /landing aspect of their performance ,but also because they are effective in helping control the dreaded "Radial Wobble"

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If you can move some weight to the middle of the car to help tame the wheelstand. About the crossmember should work. It should carry the wheelstand instead of dropping out.

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Lincoln Morehead's Camaro wheelstands and lands as well as any car I've ever seen.

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Randy is the best with afcos. You won’t be disappointed.

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This Cooter goes with Randy at Fast Shocks as well. Excellent performance and alot easier on the wallet. I had Santuffs and they just didn't work well on my combination but the Fast Shocks really made an improvement. Just my experience with a 3rd gen Camaro.

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Randy at Fastshocks is a wealth of knowledge. They are a family owned business that has been racing super stock for over 30 years. There are others, but I wouldn’t look anywhere else. Thanks, Dennis

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One of the things to look at is Moroso coil springs not staying straight causing interference with a large diameter afco shock. Landrum coils stay straight and the wire is smaller so not to cause any interference and Randy at fast shock fixed our afcos.
jim GT/QA

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Just ordered and received a set of Fastshocks for my Maverick. Eddie and Ryan Horensky run them on the Shelby, and that car settles on the landing as good as any other car.. Randy was very helpful and easy to work with. I think they are both great products.

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Whenever an opportunity exists, scale your car with the driver and all the gear he wears and the amount of fuel your will be using. Have the numbers available for either Marty at Rinehart's Performance or for Randy Mans at FastShocks when you call.

It is very helpful for them when it comes to setting the valving on the shocks.

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Randy is a great guy to talk with and I do think the Santuffs are a good product but I just didn't have any adjustability in my low hp combination. I ran them full loose all the time with the Fastshocks you better be careful running them full loose in good air and track conditions I might loose my rear clip