That 318-2 dime rocket
 

I've seen this mentioned before. In an A body, that Q or R. This combo better in T? I remember Clayton had a killer 273-2 wagon. Very well flogged. 318 a better, maybe cheaper route?

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Instead of posting on here asking about how "good" all of these "good" Mopar combos are, why don't you try actually building one. If you really know as much about Mopars as you seem to then you shouldn't have to ask. You surely don't need my permission.

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Good morning, is the 2 bbl carb bigger for the 318 engine combo or is it the same size as the 273 engine combo? That should be the question that needs to be addressed here. Here's an example the 327/ 275 hp engine uses the same size Q-Jet as the 350/255 hp engine combo. The 327 engine would "see" the same carb as slightly bigger because of the slightly less demand the smaller cubic inches puts on the carb. Along with other important engine specs, that's something I look at as well while "brain storming " a new race combination. Just my two cents.

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Henry, the 318-2V combo is pretty good. I'm just trying to instigate this guy actually DOING a combo for once instead of just TALKING about how good they are.

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Isn't the 273 factored with more horsepower than the 318?

Anyone know the history on that?

Thanks!

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It depends on the year and the heads. 273s are between mid 160s to mid 170s and the 318s are from high 160s to mid 180s.

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Billy i think you should step up and build a mopar........lmao

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Short block in the car. Waiting to find either an appropriate 2 or 4 bbl carb and intake. Hell Billy!, you really screwed things up with the 273 aluminum intake hissy fit. That intake made a lot of HP for me.

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Okay Billy, I got it. Get up off the couch!
I was passing a little sound advice along.
:o

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It was this post on Facebook that made me aware of this. One of the comments states the 318 for 1969 is rated at 172HP, the 273-2 in 1969 is rated at 190HP which I believe is correct.

I believe the car featured is Kevin Leinart's.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1447...ment&ref=notif

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There is something different about the 68-69 273 compared to the earlier ones but I don't know just what that something is. Maybe later on I'll try and figure it out. They probably shouldn't be at 190 HP.

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Later 273s have a different hydraulic cam. You have to have a couple of screws loose to build one if you are looking for a dime rocket. There are 302 FFFords that could run well with a ball honeand new rings on junk yard engine and still in the books that have not been tried yet.

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Paul, I never noticed your stutter before.

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i see your bullying people again !! like it matters !! maybe u should build a combo thats got more than 1 car in the country !! Lots to say n not much to show !! At least you stopped editing posts with your own innuendo built in !! I bet it would be a blast to see your search history !!

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A forum for asking questions... I did not know that Billy needs to approve ones intent. So you can't ask a question? Can't ask for advice? Do I need to prove something to Billy? Billy , you have a lot of knowledge and contacts. That's not under debate. Remember this forum exists for people seeking information from sportsman racers who are some of the best people and racers that I ever met. Billy- you've lost my respect as a person and a racer. There is no reason for you to respond. You as a racer and person are dead to me.

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H.O.D. ,One thing I can say about Billy, after about 40 years, is he can speak for himself, so I'll let that last one pass.

Couple tips..
1, There are about 2 or 3 of those combos out there. I don't think any of them frequent this forum, so I suggest you do a little research , and track them down. I'm sure they'll be glad to talk to you.
2, When going back and forth between a 2 bbl and a 4 bbl. ,you're going to want to change a lot more than just the carb and intake.

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The 318 Four Barrel is very good @230HP

My boy held the record a couple different years with it
and won his class @ Indy on a modest budget (ran 1.+ under
when he needed)

But only legal in 78 up 318.

Two barrel was under index but never very great for us
.

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You should try it sometime, it'll make you think.

Go for it! Let me know what you find.

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and I was asking YOU a question.

and I don't like wasting my time and my "contacts" time doing research for a nameless person who has no intentions of using the info that we gathered. Over a number of years, you have supposedly been "building" at least a half-a-dozen combos that never reach the track. If you want to "talk" combos then just call me on the phone and I'll talk your ear off but let me know your intent ahead of time.

and somehow, I'll get by.......

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[QUOTE=House of Darts;632857]Billy, you are dead to me......


Can you post the arrangements, I would like to send FLOWERS ........

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The reports of Billy's death are greatly exaggerated.

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Dear Mr. Bubski,
We don't know each other but it seems to me that you're out of your league debating these guys.
Listen and learn.
Respectfully,
Frank

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"dead to me " ???? Some of you guys are taking this stuff way too serious. I personably enjoy what is written here whether or not I agree with it. Lets all chill out for a bit and try to get along in these difficult times

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I wouldn't build on this guy's comments. I know him pretty well and he's never built a stocker. He was building a 1969 Barracuda with a 340 back in the early 1990s, but Woodrow Josey's LT1 Firebird scared him off. He should have built it anyway since that car started in H/SA and ended up in D/SA. By the time it was competitive, Woodrow would have been in D/SA.

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Are you talking about me (340Cuda - Bill Lamb) or House of Darts?

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No, I was poking fun at myself. I'm a stocker guy wannabee. I posted that info on FaceBooger. I guess no one has run the 1969 273 combo as it's at the factory rating. NHRA should rate it the same or near the 1967 rating. Chrysler went to a hydraulic cam in 1968-9, I think the specs are close to the earlier mechanical cams.

The 273-4bbl combo has different pistons (10.5:1 or so) than the 2bbl version. I was looking at building a 273 Dart for stock. It became apparent that my engine guy is a Full-Tilt Boogie Motor kind of guy and I couldn't see pouring that much money into a 273. I bought two of the LD4B intakes to have them taken away. They should have not approved them in the first place, certainly they should have taken them away before I bought them.

I wasn't ragging on Woodro either. Just frustration that it took a long time for the LT1 to get factored to a more realistic HP rating. It started at 275HP, the same as the 340 factory rating. I think it ended up around 350 HP. Sort of like when the Factory Showoff cars came out, the EFI cars were under rated at first.

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Wow! A Mopar guy with a sense of humor! You need a Neon.

OOPS! Never mind, another Mopar guy that I'm "dead to"!
If this keeps up, there's liable to be a thread on here soon,"I Buried Billy"!

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Well that went right over my head. I have a 69 Barracuda 340 but it has always been a Super Stock car.

Bill

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Some folks don't seem to realize that it is possible to read something on the internet that you disagree with and simply go on with your life!

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I agree with Billy on his desire to restore the "Stock" back in Stock. Unfortunately the cats are out of the bag and there are too many cats to try to shove back in the bag. Some of those old 1960s parts are wore out and expensive to find if there is a good part that can be used.

I'll have to dig out the old Beatles album to see if it does say "I Buried Billy" or "I'm Pretty Silly".

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Sure thing Frank !! I suppose debating with a guy that has a harbor freight welder and a spoke shave in his toolbox is taboo !! Mr Billy wanted another post censored like a sheep and you think thats great !! To top it off he wants someone to build something that is truly meaningless !! like money is all over n its free !! Just because the OEM's put it in there doesn't mean a thing !! PS !! I hope billy can bring a set "stock heads n intake" for u James so u can "protest the Masshole" Time to get working !!

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No, money isn't "all over n its free". I just like keeping as much of mine in my pocket as I can.
You still haven't told everyone on here just what it is that you race!
Must be a Hemi car or maybe Comp? Bubski, are you a Pro? That's it! You must be a Pro!

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A Pro Idiot!

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I have a photo of Mr Leinharts 69 dart and it states 318CI on the hood on large decals. R/SA on window.

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I am sure Billy will. God Bless the survoivors