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Chad Fergen 03-01-2021 11:31 PM

Automatic Shifter Options
 
What are the cool 3-speed automatic shifter options? I have the Hurst pistol grip right now. It looks cool but I don't want to think about squeezing the lever to get it into third gear, and I don't have the auto 1-2. Thoughts? Thanks!

GTX JOHN 03-02-2021 12:19 AM

Re: Automatic Shifter Options
 
Most of our cars use the old B & M Pro Sticks = Nearly unbreakable and
foolproof! Some use Turbo Action shifters. Everything is 40 year old designs.
I wish I had a couple more of them!

No auto 1/2 in any of our stockers or my Superstockers!

Jon Jr. has a CO2 tank in his Superstock =It is legal in it!

FireSale 03-02-2021 12:23 AM

Re: Automatic Shifter Options
 
Other than full air or electric in SS, not really a lot. What pattern do you have forward (push to shift) or reverse (pull to shift)? That third gear release is important. It keeps you from hitting 3rd on your first shift. I have a Hurst Quarter Stick reverse on my C4 and the high gear release was awkward for me, too. I used scrap aluminum to build an angled riser to mount it on. The pull to third is more up than back with the shifter winding up only slightly angled back.

GUMP 03-02-2021 04:50 AM

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I am a big fan of the Turbo Action shifter. I have them in all of my cars. Easy to use and reliable.

GTX JOHN 03-02-2021 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 635640)
Other than full air or electric in SS, not really a lot. What pattern do you have forward (push to shift) or reverse (pull to shift)? That third gear release is important. It keeps you from hitting 3rd on your first shift. I have a Hurst Quarter Stick reverse on my C4 and the high gear release was awkward for me, too. I used scrap aluminum to build an angled riser to mount it on. The pull to third is more up than back with the shifter winding up only slightly angled back.

I made steel tubing and plate brackets to elevate the shifters
in all my cars to get them closer to the steering wheel.

My Arms are short!

btrc 03-02-2021 06:01 PM

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I haven't had any experience with any other shifters but I like my PPP ( Precision Performance Products) shifter for my C4.

Chad Fergen 03-02-2021 11:23 PM

Re: Automatic Shifter Options
 
Thanks everyone! I will check them out. I appreciate the input!

Alan Nyhus 03-10-2021 10:07 AM

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Chad, the B&M Pro Ratchet shifters are also good ones. -Al

Jim Kaekel 03-10-2021 10:23 AM

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Turbo Action Cheetah shifter without a doubt. Just a no-nonsense, one-hand operated shifter.

Race Clean 03-10-2021 10:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 635644)
I am a big fan of the Turbo Action shifter. I have them in all of my cars. Easy to use and reliable.

Had used them for 3 decades when all of a sudden I forgot how and started having all kinds of problem doing the shifts in the right manner(1-3,got stuck in the gate etc.) and after loosing 2 races because of it 7-8 years ago I decided it was time to get that awesome looking PPP stuff and at the same time upgrade the valve body to include the clean neutral option,and I have never looked back since !

steven reynolds 03-10-2021 10:45 AM

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In 1 car I have the B&M rachet shifter, in the other car is the PPP shifter, the B&M is flawless, I'm not so happy with the PPP, maybe I need to study up on the PPP shifter

Race Clean 03-10-2021 01:54 PM

Re: Automatic Shifter Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steven reynolds (Post 636199)
In 1 car I have the B&M rachet shifter, in the other car is the PPP shifter, the B&M is flawless, I'm not so happy with the PPP, maybe I need to study up on the PPP shifter

I have never used a rachet shifter but they sure sound easy to operate:)

Tom Goldman 03-12-2021 11:38 AM

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I'd say 90% of the cars I work on or build use the TurboAction Cheetah shifter ,
It's a simple design and if I'm not mistaken ,the base component has aircraft origins .
I've seen 30 year old Cheetah's that still work flawlessly.
Had one in my own Stocker .

Demon340 03-12-2021 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steven reynolds (Post 636199)
In 1 car I have the B&M rachet shifter, in the other car is the PPP shifter, the B&M is flawless, I'm not so happy with the PPP, maybe I need to study up on the PPP shifter

I am struggling with adjustments with the PPP. either I have park and not full third or other way around. Any suggestions?

Gmirza 03-12-2021 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon340 (Post 636429)
I am struggling with adjustments with the PPP. either I have park and not full third or other way around. Any suggestions?

Sounds like the lever on the tranny is too long. Did they supply a lever with the shifter?

steven reynolds 03-13-2021 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon340 (Post 636429)
I am struggling with adjustments with the PPP. either I have park and not full third or other way around. Any suggestions?

As I have been told, "make sure all bolts are tight, use the correct levers, shift arms, if you have reverse pattern valve body, make all adjustments in high gear, if this is done right then the rest is right"
That's about all I know about adjusting the shifter itself and it did work for me
Steve

Race Clean 03-13-2021 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steven reynolds (Post 636456)
As I have been told, "make sure all bolts are tight, use the correct levers, shift arms, if you have reverse pattern valve body, make all adjustments in high gear, if this is done right then the rest is right"

Is that what the PPP manual says? I remember it different ..but that dosen't mean anything :confused:

Demon340 03-15-2021 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gmirza (Post 636447)
Sounds like the lever on the tranny is too long. Did they supply a lever with the shifter?

Yes, they supplied the lever. The car has a clean neutral.

Dave Turner 03-15-2021 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 636197)
Turbo Action Cheetah shifter without a doubt. Just a no-nonsense, one-hand operated shifter.

Had 3 race cars, all with this shifter. Never found a reason to change....”old habits......” :cool:

Dano 03-16-2021 05:24 AM

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I am surprised no one has mentioned the M&M shifter? Had them all at one time or the other. Don't want to go to far into the weeds, but, compared to the PPP shifter, hands down, a much better and user friendly piece. IMO

mannymen 03-16-2021 04:50 PM

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Never liked the turbo action and how it slides from Neutral into 1st for T-400 reverse application. You never really know if it's truly in first where it should be, whereas a ratchet is in or its not.

Gmirza 03-16-2021 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mannymen (Post 636765)
Never liked the turbo action and how it slides from Neutral into 1st for T-400 reverse application. You never really know if it's truly in first where it should be, whereas a ratchet is in or its not.

I know for the 727/904 shifter they offer two gates. One has a positive stop for first. The other, like you stated, can be used with an air shifter. I agree, you have to be careful with that gate. The other one is nearly fool proof when manually shifting.

gsa612 03-16-2021 10:35 PM

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If you ran a glide you couldn't beat a Perry shifter...gsa612

chris ok 03-17-2021 11:19 AM

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B&M Quick Silver. Forward or reverse pattern.
NHRA and IHRA approved.
Using mine 20 years. Just changed cable once. It fell on exhaust. My fault.

Chad Fergen 03-18-2021 12:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 636397)
I'd say 90% of the cars I work on or build use the TurboAction Cheetah shifter ,
It's a simple design and if I'm not mistaken ,the base component has aircraft origins .
I've seen 30 year old Cheetah's that still work flawlessly.
Had one in my own Stocker .

I have been looking at these and it appears they are out of stock. In all fairness I only checked Jegs and Summit. I believe the part number is 70012. Heading to Vegas next month. I might have to focus and squeeze the trigger for 3rd. ;)

PS, The BBB is cool but out of my pay grade.

Alan Nyhus 03-18-2021 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Fergen (Post 636883)
Heading to Vegas next month. I might have to focus and squeeze the trigger for 3rd. ;)

Chad: just put a B&M Pro Ratchet in it and Rule the World! ;) -Al

Tom Goldman 03-18-2021 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Fergen (Post 636883)
I have been looking at these and it appears they are out of stock. In all fairness I only checked Jegs and Summit. I believe the part number is 70012. Heading to Vegas next month. I might have to focus and squeeze the trigger for 3rd. ;)

PS, The BBB is cool but out of my pay grade.

Chad ,you can buy direct from Turbo Action . Jegs ,Summit and others are not stocking a lot of parts and are drop shipping direct from the manufacturer.
Although the prices might be slightly higher and you'll pay shipping ,at least you can get the part.
I've had to go this route with a lot of parts in the past year.

outlaw 03-18-2021 02:07 PM

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I'm also a fan of B&M pro ratchet.
Terry

Eman 03-18-2021 11:06 PM

Re: Automatic Shifter Options
 
With a forward pattern 3 spd I've messed up the squeezing the lever, the worst is when you ease off the lever and end up pushing it to neutral. I've used the B&M Pro Ratchet and it's a great shifter. Turbo Action is good and does away with squeezing the lever.

Race Clean 03-19-2021 11:41 AM

Re: Automatic Shifter Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steven reynolds (Post 636456)
As I have been told, "make sure all bolts are tight, use the correct levers, shift arms, if you have reverse pattern valve body, make all adjustments in high gear, if this is done right then the rest is right"
That's about all I know about adjusting the shifter itself and it did work for me
Steve

Dug out the instruction sheet for MY PPP today, it clearly states that final adjustments should be done in Second gear. That is on a P-R-1-2-3-N PATTERN

steven reynolds 03-20-2021 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Race Clean (Post 637024)
Dug out the instruction sheet for MY PPP today, it clearly states that final adjustments should be done in Second gear. That is on a P-R-1-2-3-N PATTERN

Thanks for clearing this up, I know without clean neutral and using the Turbo Action shifter, you start adjusting in high gear as per advice from people in the know

Steve

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