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HR3128 07-17-2021 01:16 PM

Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
I'm working on a slow stocker / bracket-race car & would like to use 3", 5-point type seat belts. Something better than the factory belts.
My question is where to attach the shoulder belts when the car doesn't have a roll bar & is using factory seats.
Anyone have any examples of this type install?
Thanks.

Dave Noll 07-17-2021 03:26 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
We had a fabricator that bolted a bar behind the seat of his pickup where it would be on the rollbar and put the shoulder belts on it.

SDT1DYI 07-17-2021 07:35 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Can not offer any mounting suggestions but I wanted to pass along belt certification info.
You can use a 5 point out dated belt in N and slower classes.
Not all Track tech inspectors are aware of this. This came directly from our NHRA Tech Director.

Steve Teeter STK/SS 620

HR3128 07-18-2021 11:17 AM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SDT1DYI (Post 643721)
Can not offer any mounting suggestions but I wanted to pass along belt certification info.
You can use a 5 point out dated belt in N and slower classes.
Not all Track tech inspectors are aware of this. This came directly from our NHRA Tech Director.

Steve Teeter STK/SS 620


Thanks. Good to know.

Joe Marcinowski 07-18-2021 02:25 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
They make an extra long shoulder belt for floor mount behind the seat. RJS sells them.

HR3128 07-18-2021 04:02 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Marcinowski (Post 643750)
They make an extra long shoulder belt for floor mount behind the seat. RJS sells them.


I think they are not legal for NHRA.

Mark Yacavone 07-18-2021 05:24 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR3128 (Post 643753)
I think they are not legal for NHRA.

I think they are, as long as you have something on the back bar to keep them sliding left or right.
Irrelevant anyway , unless you have a 6 pt. bar.

What's the problem with stock OEM belts, anyway?
This is a dime rocket, yes?

If you're worried about being chased, why not put in a 6 pt. bar and racing belts..then, of course you'll need racing seats, because stock seats are not safe either. Probably ought to leave the air bags in, too. Also you'll want a big full face helmet where you can't see as much, being chased..
Go for it..all the way..
Kinda defeats the dime rocket idea though ;-)

Al Wilson 07-18-2021 05:25 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SDT1DYI (Post 643721)
Can not offer any mounting suggestions but I wanted to pass along belt certification info.
You can use a 5 point out dated belt in N and slower classes.
Not all Track tech inspectors are aware of this. This came directly from our NHRA Tech Director.

Steve Teeter STK/SS 620

Is this in writing somewhere to show uninformed tech inspectors?

HR3128 07-18-2021 06:06 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson (Post 643756)
Is this in writing somewhere to show uninformed tech inspectors?


It's in the rule book.

HR3128 07-18-2021 06:28 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 643755)
What's the problem with stock OEM belts, anyway?
This is a dime rocket, yes?


Probably nothing wrong with OEM belts. I was just thinking someone must have installed aftermarket belts in a slow car without a roll bar & just wanted to see how they did it.

This is definitly racing for cheap. I'm not looking to spend any more money than I have to.

Mark Yacavone 07-18-2021 07:30 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR3128 (Post 643761)
Probably nothing wrong with OEM belts. I was just thinking someone must have installed aftermarket belts in a slow car without a roll bar & just wanted to see how they did it.

This is definitly racing for cheap. I'm not looking to spend any more money than I have to.

You could just bolt in a 3" lap belt with the original hardware..God knows, there's plenty of them laying around.

SDT1DYI 07-19-2021 08:29 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson (Post 643756)
Is this in writing somewhere to show uninformed tech inspectors?

Yesi have in a E mail response and saved it just in case. I do mention it when a tech mentions that my current belts are going to be out of date soon. ( In my M/SA car. ).

Steve.

Bob Don 07-19-2021 10:57 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson (Post 643756)
Is this in writing somewhere to show uninformed tech inspectors?

I had a letter from Division Tech Director that I kept in the glove box of my N/SA.

F677 07-24-2021 08:17 AM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
I used to have a set of Y shoulder RCI belts that were mounted to the floor behind me when I was younger. A seasoned racer spelled out to me why it was a bad idea. With my low back bucket seats, if the belts did come into play they would drive me down in the seat and likely compress my spine. Without a cage, if they were tight enough to keep me upright and the car ended up shiny side down, they would keep me from rolling to the side while the roof came down and.... compress my spine. He explained that is why the rule book only allows the shoulder belt to be mounted a short distance (4 or 5 inches I believe) below the drivers shoulders. I run a 3 inch, very expired belt mounted in the factory location, just in case I do end up inverted so I don't have to worry about trying to push a tiny OEM button while hanging.

HR3128 07-24-2021 10:58 AM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F677 (Post 644082)
I run a 3 inch, very expired belt mounted in the factory location

Just the lap belt or do you have something going to the upper factory mount? Across your chest?

Mark Yacavone 07-24-2021 01:32 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR3128 (Post 644097)
Just the lap belt or do you have something going to the upper factory mount? Across your chest?

I don't believe a 67 Mustang would have the upper portion of a belt.

F677 07-26-2021 12:14 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR3128 (Post 644097)
Just the lap belt or do you have something going to the upper factory mount? Across your chest?

Just the lap belt. No shoulder belt in my 67.

B/S 428 07-26-2021 01:07 PM

Re: Seat Belts Install for Slow Stocker
 
The 67 did come with a OEM shoulder harness option so the fastener could be under your headliner, I use the OEM locations on my comet with expired belts, I would highly recommend a shoulder harness..


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