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DiMEC1 08-02-2021 07:27 PM

Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Hello folks. I am new to the forum and have a couple of questions. I am a former Super Gas racer who has been out of the game a long time. I am finally in a position of semi retirement and am building a '69 Chevelle to run what looks like might be C/SA. I have been back and forth with a few emails to NHRA Tech and because of the nature of the car being an original SS 396 car and the fact that it is pristine, I don't want to change the SS configuration so I am stuck with the 396 engine. I originally thought that the 427 in B/SA might be a better option, but that is a no go for the NHRA because '69 SS cars were not available with a 427.

A couple of questions, ( and I will have many more ); What backspace wheel and tire combo would be optimal and/or fit without trimming the lip of the wheel well? And this is an original stick car and as much as it would be tons more fun with a stick shift, the auto in my experience would be a little easier on parts and more reliable. Been a very long time since I rowed gears.

Any other helpful hints you guys may have would be greatly appreciated.

Frank Castros 08-02-2021 07:38 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
The nicest Chevelle stocker I ever saw was the late great Charlie Sousa's. Whatever he did, do. Maybe the Bouchers will chime in.

DiMEC1 08-02-2021 07:55 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Just looked at a video of that car on YouTube. Beautiful. And leaves hard. I think I can make the horsepower but the car needs to leave exactly like that. Will be looking for tips from the veterans as I am a bonafide rookie. Appreciate the response Frank.

SSDiv6 08-02-2021 08:25 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Kevin Borgstrom ran a 427 Chevelle with Yenko emblems and decal.

https://static.dragracecentral.com/s.../0410-0065.jpg

https://static.dragracecentral.com/s.../0509-1143.jpg

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Terry Cain 08-02-2021 08:36 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
427 IS AVAILABLE according to tech sheets.

DiMEC1 08-02-2021 09:01 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
According to Bob Lang with NHRA D1 and a west coast tech guy he brought into the conversation, I could run the 427 if I take the SS trim off and turn it into a plain Jane Malibu ( which I am not willing to do ). The 427 was only available as as COPO in basic Chevelle/Malibu trim. So in other words, if I build it as a 427 car, it can't look like a SS. All that said, if I understand the rules correctly, I should be able to squeeze about 413 inches out of a "396", given the plus minus fudge factor on bore and stroke.

MR DERBY CITY 08-02-2021 09:03 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DiMEC1 (Post 644736)
Just looked at a video of that car on YouTube. Beautiful. And leaves hard. I think I can make the horsepower but the car needs to leave exactly like that. Will be looking for tips from the veterans as I am a bonafide rookie. Appreciate the response Frank.

Might want to look into some Alf Weibe rear suspension mods …..

Mike Jones 08-03-2021 08:53 AM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
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Charlies Chevelle... now belongs to Bednaz Racing.
Sorry about the small pic.

Frank Castros 08-03-2021 05:12 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
I wondered what happened to Charlie's car after he passed and very pleased to learn that it went a great racing family.

Chipper Chapman 08-03-2021 09:28 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
396/375 aluminum head fits as natural B I believe, and Iron head as natural C. Neither are bad combos IMO. I started to go the 375 route a few years ago but opted to go oval port for lower rpm and maintenance. Weibes chassis parts worked very well but from what I understand he’s no longer making the stuff. The Dick Miller parts work very well too. There are a few guys running the ‘70 402/375 combo that I’m sure could help you out. As for wheels, I run 15x10 with 5.5” backspace. They Center in the wheelwells near perfectly

DiMEC1 08-03-2021 09:58 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipper Chapman (Post 644796)
396/375 aluminum head fits as natural B I believe, and Iron head as natural C. Neither are bad combos IMO. I started to go the 375 route a few years ago but opted to go oval port for lower rpm and maintenance. Weibes chassis parts worked very well but from what I understand he’s no longer making the stuff. The Dick Miller parts work very well too. There are a few guys running the ‘70 402/375 combo that I’m sure could help you out. As for wheels, I run 15x10 with 5.5” backspace. They Center in the wheelwells near perfectly

All good info and thank you. I will research the Dick Miller parts because as you mentioned, doesn't look like there is any way to buy the Weibe kit.

boxmotorsports 08-06-2021 04:38 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
I have my 1969 Chevelle in G/SA with a 396/325hp combo. I have been told it has been reduced to 316hp in the Chevelle body. Check out HR Parts and Stuff, they make a anti roll type sway bar that works great. We have the same bar on our K/SA wagon.

Mark Yacavone 08-06-2021 05:19 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
[QUOTE=DiMEC1;644733I originally thought that the 427 in B/SA might be a better option, but that is a no go for the NHRA because '69 SS cars were not available with a 427.

[/QUOTE]

What's the problem here? If you want to run the 427, Take the SS emblems off the front and rear..Cover the holes in the fender with a decal.
Trust me, nobody cares...There's no tech..Even when there was, they very seldom looked up classification..I doubt any of the players in B/SA will care either ;-
Good luck.

Doug Domm 08-06-2021 05:23 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 644990)
What's the problem here? If you want to run the 427, Take the SS emblems off the front and rear..Cover the holes in the fender with a decal.
Trust me, nobody cares...There's no tech..Even when there was, they very seldom looked up classification..I doubt any of the players in B/SA will care either ;-
Good luck.

And if you don’t want to potentially damage the paint with a decal and it’s removal then apply the decal to magnetic sheeting and trim the sheeting to fit.

Kevin Borgstrom 08-10-2021 07:46 AM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
I think it comes down to your budget. Starting out with a 325 hp/396 with a automatic vs. a 425 hp/427 with a stick are worlds apart in dollars. The next factor is time, getting the 325 hp down the track on a consistent basis will take a lot less testing than a 425 hp stick combo. I would like to tell you go big or stay home (lol), but I wont. The 425 hp stick combo is not for the faint of heart!! or pocketbook!

DiMEC1 08-14-2021 11:11 AM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Thanks so much for all the good info guys. As I said, I'm a former Super Gas racer, so this is endeavor is worlds apart from that, and way more challenging. Hope to see some of you out there next season.

SSDiv6 08-14-2021 12:29 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DiMEC1 (Post 644798)
All good info and thank you. I will research the Dick Miller parts because as you mentioned, doesn't look like there is any way to buy the Weibe kit.

Mike Trumble has an Alf Weibe kit for sale in this forum.

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...ad.php?t=80010

tony wood 08-14-2021 01:38 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
yes i posted alf weibe rear suspension complete kit with rear springs for 1500.00 for mike trumble 713-725-5288

Alan Nyhus 08-15-2021 12:32 PM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 644990)
What's the problem here? If you want to run the 427, Take the SS emblems off the front and rear..Cover the holes in the fender with a decal.

And put a flat Malibu hood on it. -Al

boxmotorsports 08-16-2021 10:24 AM

Re: Chevelle Stocker Question
 
Just wondering what kind of 60' times were guys getting. I have a 69 Camaro AA/SA with the 427 combo. The Chevelles never came close to 60' foot times of the Camaro. Is 1.48 for a 325hp combo descent in G/SA?


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