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MR DERBY CITY 08-15-2021 12:05 PM

Those TRUMP haters and Afghanistan …
 
You know, those TRUMP haters aren’t saying much about the Taliban in Afghanistan . Of course, Biden is blaming EVERYTHING on the ORANGEMAN …We sure are in good hands. THANK the LORD that no one is getting their feelings hurt on TWITTER anymore ….What you say Eddie and Superfan ??

John Kissel 08-15-2021 12:29 PM

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Well, the president and v.p. of the afgans has flew the coop, so, how about when we get our people out, we turn Bagram air base and our embassy back into desert.John Kissel

Eddies66 08-15-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 645524)
You know, those TRUMP haters aren’t saying much about the Taliban in Afghanistan . Of course, Biden is blaming EVERYTHING on the ORANGEMAN …We sure are in good hands. THANK the LORD that no one is getting their feelings hurt on TWITTER anymore ….What you say Eddie and Superfan ??

Biden doing what was to be done before the election last November, so our leader told us.

MR DERBY CITY 08-15-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by John Kissel (Post 645525)
Well, the president and v.p. of the afgans has flew the coop, so, how about when we get our people out, we turn Bagram air base and our embassy back into desert.John Kissel

Light em up John ….

Grey Ghost 08-15-2021 02:08 PM

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Why does history keep repeating itself? I truly feel for the good people in Afghanistan who supported us even though we were not invited to their country. God bless all of those in the military that served there.

Our government is taking it's sweet time on "vetting" those who aided our troops there yet they are releasing illegals into the country by the thousands with little scrutiny. It truly is life and death for our friends in Afghanistan and not so with the border invasion. WT*

Thanks joe and gw you're both stand up guys.

jmcarter 08-15-2021 02:12 PM

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Did anyone really think it all wouldn’t end his way? The Taliban was kicking the Afghan forces butts regardless of how many troops we had there to support them. It didn’t matter one iota which administration finally pulled the plug.

SStockDart 08-15-2021 03:41 PM

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How to win a war...
1. Keep newsmen out of war zone.
2. Keep photographers out of war zone.
3. Keep our civilians out of war zone.
4. Keep politicians out of war zone.
5. Keep politicians out of war conversations.
6. Keep Biden out of it.
7. Level the battleground.

Done.

MR DERBY CITY 08-15-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 645536)
Did anyone really think it all wouldn’t end his way? The Taliban was kicking the Afghan forces butts regardless of how many troops we had there to support them. It didn’t matter one iota which administration finally pulled the plug.

Unfortunately, Biden doesn’t know what day it is …..STEVIE WONDER saw all this coming. ….the truth is the DEMRATS care more about the ILL LEGALS at the southern border than they do about you OR me …..you really think they give 2 ****s about the Afghans ???

jmcarter 08-15-2021 04:27 PM

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Unfortunately MJ, you and Phil are correct. All the people who would have processed visas for those who assisted us have left. They will pay dearly and even CNN and other elements of the media will provide the images that will follow this administration from now on. Such a flawed exit strategy is inexcusable by any measure. All the signs were there and they relied on wishful thinking. Only silver lining of the war is that it bought us time to lessen our vulnerability at home. But a horrific price has been paid for that and many Afghans and Americans here will keep paying that price. God bless our military and their families.

Mark Yacavone 08-15-2021 05:45 PM

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As the great El Rushbo always said...The purpose of a war is to kill people and break things.

Otherwise, don't get involved..When we ever learn? (I said that)

SStockDart 08-16-2021 12:07 PM

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Well,, what is going on today?

The Biden border crisis grows worse every month. It was announced this week that in July over 212,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended along the southern border. This is nearly 25,000 more than June and it 420 percent higher than last July. Along with the illegal immigrants comes an alarming amount of drugs. 771 pounds of fentanyl and 17,792 pounds of methamphetamine were seized in July. We are on pace to have over 2 million people cross the southern border by October. But it gets worse. The Biden administration is releasing COVID-positive illegal immigrants in our communities. In McAllen, Texas, for example, 7000 COVID-positive illegal migrants have been released since February! So while Mr. Biden pushes his vaccine mandate upon American citizens, he gives plane and bus tickets out to COVID-positive illegals to travel throughout the United States.

Afghanistan has collapsed, Taliban takes over.

Just another day for President Fudd.

MR DERBY CITY 08-16-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 645621)
Well,, what is going on today?

The Biden border crisis grows worse every month. It was announced this week that in July over 212,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended along the southern border. This is nearly 25,000 more than June and it 420 percent higher than last July. Along with the illegal immigrants comes an alarming amount of drugs. 771 pounds of fentanyl and 17,792 pounds of methamphetamine were seized in July. We are on pace to have over 2 million people cross the southern border by October. But it gets worse. The Biden administration is releasing COVID-positive illegal immigrants in our communities. In McAllen, Texas, for example, 7000 COVID-positive illegal migrants have been released since February! So while Mr. Biden pushes his vaccine mandate upon American citizens, he gives plane and bus tickets out to COVID-positive illegals to travel throughout the United States.

Afghanistan has collapsed, Taliban takes over.

Just another day for President Fudd.

A BIG THANK YOU to all that voted for the DEM O RATS ….When these DRUGS find their way into your children’s or grandchildren’s schools, you can just PAT yourself on the back. Child trafficking is at an all time high. CONGRATS , you contributed to it ….Put that into your pipe….and smoke it …It was the ORANGEMAN that realized how dangerous these ILL LEGALS are …

Fireofficer74 08-16-2021 01:55 PM

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MDC, you are WELCOME.

Now go back to grinding your teeth.

Reading you post is like watching newsmax, fantasy and niot true.

Are you really the my pillo guy.

Wasn't something going to happen friday, Mike?

Jeff Stout 08-16-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireofficer74 (Post 645633)
MDC, you are WELCOME.

Now go back to grinding your teeth.

Reading you post is like watching newsmax, fantasy and niot true.

Are you really the my pillo guy.

Wasn't something going to happen friday, Mike?

You must live under a really big rock.
Fentanyl is out of control in AZ.
25% Illegals are covid positive
Next the JV team will be crossing the southern boarder and get started on the next 9/11.
I agree Pillow guy was a flop, but I'm not into elections anymore, so you must have at least peeked from under the rock to know that much.

Mark Yacavone 08-16-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireofficer74 (Post 645633)
Reading you post is like watching newsmax, fantasy and niot true.

?

Guys ...I just can't explain this guy... One possibility..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwuXU3spEr8

Fireofficer74 08-16-2021 10:20 PM

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so sad, to hat so much.

SSDiv6 08-17-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 645530)
Biden doing what was to be done before the election last November, so our leader told us.

Why you don't add the specifics?
Trump had a deal to remove the majority of the US presence as part of their deal with the Taliban. Still, he was leaving a presence in the area.
Nevertheless, the Taliban knew that is they broke the deal, Trump was going to hit them again without mercy.

The Taliban had a taste of it when Soleimani attacked the embassy in Iraq and Trump took him out with a drone.

We have lost of credibility with our new administration and be ready for what is coming.

You will see China hit Taiwan and Biden will not do anything.

With the Taliban taking over Afghanistan, Iraq is next. The Syrians have the support of Russia and Iran has the support from China and the Taliban has the support of both Syria and Iran. With such coalition, their final targets will the remainder of the Middle East with their final goal to hit Israel!

6130 08-17-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fireofficer74 (Post 645667)
so sad, to hat so much.

After I retired from law enforcement, I was recruited to provide armed plainclothes protective services to the television news crews covering the riots in downtown Portland. I have seen hate, and I can assure you that the left owns it, just as they always have.

6130 08-17-2021 09:04 AM

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This brings up the subject of the bizarre Orwellian redefinition of words attempted by leftists.

Leftists use the word "hate" to describe other people choosing not to goose-step to their hate-filled leftist regime.

Conversely, leftists use the word "tolerance" to describe being intolerant of anyone who dares to think differently than their jack-booted regime.

Leftists formed a violent fascist hate group, and named it "ANTI-fascist".

Leftists are fond of labeling those who oppose them as "N.A.Z.I.s", apparently ignorant of the fact that the word N.A.Z.I. is an acronym, that stands for the German National Socialist Worker's Party, the party of big government, the party of crushing taxes, the party of disarming it's citizens, the party of separating people into groups based upon their apparent skin color, the party with the god complex of presuming to have the right to decide who is not worthy of being allowed to remain alive- much like today's modern Democrat party.

jmcarter 08-17-2021 09:19 AM

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Please just remember there’s a lot of very good people on the left and they probably don’t like being grouped into the far left definitions any more than conservatives like being labeled as bigots. Whatever divisions exist are made more stark by media and politicians hoping to capitalize on it. We have a crisis of leadership more than anything else. Off my soap box…

6130 08-17-2021 09:31 AM

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The left has always been about hate.

That's why the left hoisted the Confederate battle flag, took up arms, and went to war against the United States in the left's pursuit of preserving slavery.

That's why the left assassinated the Republican President that freed the slaves.

That's why the left fought tooth and nail against the Republican's 13th Amendment (banning slavery), the 14th Amendment (recognizing black Americans as citizens), and 15th Amendment (securing the right to vote, for black Americans).

That's also why the left founded the KKK.

6130 08-17-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 645680)
Please just remember there’s a lot of very good people on the left and they probably don’t like being grouped into the far left definitions any more than conservatives like being labeled as bigots…

Anybody voting left is either confused, not a good person, or both.

Bigotry is not consistent with conservativism- leftists attempting to label conservatives as "bigots" is simply the left blaming the right for things that they themselves as leftists actually have done and still do. The very reason the Republican party was founded in 1854, was as an anti-slavery party, to combat the racism of the pro-slavery Democrat party.

Eddies66 08-17-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 645676)
Why you don't add the specifics?
Trump had a deal to remove the majority of the US presence as part of their deal with the Taliban. Still, he was leaving a presence in the area.
Nevertheless, the Taliban knew that is they broke the deal, Trump was going to hit them again without mercy.

The Taliban had a taste of it when Soleimani attacked the embassy in Iraq and Trump took him out with a drone.

We have lost of credibility with our new administration and be ready for what is coming.

You will see China hit Taiwan and Biden will not do anything.

With the Taliban taking over Afghanistan, Iraq is next. The Syrians have the support of Russia and Iran has the support from China and the Taliban has the support of both Syria and Iran. With such coalition, their final targets will the remainder of the Middle East with their final goal to hit Israel!

Our mission in Afghanistan was over on May 2, 2011, our mission to build a democratic nation was a failed mission to begin with. We preach one thing and turn around and do just the opposite. Who are we to take away the right of “self-determination” from the Afghan people.

The agreement struck last year laid out a 14-month timetable for the withdrawal of "all military forces of the United States, its allies and coalition partners." The US agreed to withdraw troops and release some5000 Taliban prisoners, while the Taliban agreed to take steps to prevent any group or individual, including al Qaeda, from using Afghanistan to threaten the security of the US or its allies. This accord "legitimized the Taliban" and gave them a "road map" to conduct their offensive and oust the democratically elected government.

Our next mission should be taking care of our Veterans that served during this timeframe.

As far as the what the future holds for this country, my crystal ball has been broken for a long time. With regards to Israel, I believe they can hold their own, they have 90 to 120 ways of doing that. A quote from the Jewish people still holds true, “Never Again”.

Frank Castros 08-17-2021 12:49 PM

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Afghanistan is a notoriously difficult country to govern. Empire after empire, nation after nation have failed to pacify what is today the modern territory of Afghanistan, giving the region the nickname “Graveyard of Empires, ” even if sometimes those empires won some initial battles and made inroads into the region.

SStockDart 08-17-2021 04:35 PM

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It has been reported that billions of dollars of top U.S. military equipment is being left behind for the Taliban to use.
Because of the incompetent Biden withdrawal, the Taliban has seized helicopters, Humvees, Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs), drones, and even “anti-aircraft guns, armored tanks, and artillery.”
Biden has no plan to get any of that equipment back or to keep the Taliban from seizing even more weapons.
American military hardware is the best in the world. Americans paid for it. We want it back and secured.
What is the plan, President Fudd?

Eddies66 08-17-2021 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 645711)
It has been reported that billions of dollars of top U.S. military equipment is being left behind for the Taliban to use.
Because of the incompetent Biden withdrawal, the Taliban has seized helicopters, Humvees, Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs), drones, and even “anti-aircraft guns, armored tanks, and artillery.”
Biden has no plan to get any of that equipment back or to keep the Taliban from seizing even more weapons.
American military hardware is the best in the world. Americans paid for it. We want it back and secured.
What is the plan, President Fudd?

Who is going to maintain the equipment and obtain parts. Where is all the Soviet equipment that was left behind? Probably beaten into pots and pans. We obviously gave 320,000 Afghan soldiers the equipment necessary to fight a 25,000 Taliban force, but not the will power to do as much.

Mike Jones 08-17-2021 07:04 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab9zK8yT4_Y

SStockDart 08-17-2021 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 645717)
Who is going to maintain the equipment and obtain parts. Where is all the Soviet equipment that was left behind? Probably beaten into pots and pans. We obviously gave 320,000 Afghan soldiers the equipment necessary to fight a 25,000 Taliban force, but not the will power to do as much.

I'm not worried about the Taliban maintaining anything. I'm saying that if our President was competent enough to have a real plan, we wouldn't have had to leave billions $ of equipment behind. You know....a few tanks here, a few helicopters there, pretty soon we are talking about a lot of resources and money to use in our next Middle East war. I agreed with getting out of Afghanistan (and Viet Nam), but it is how we got out that pizzes me off.

Eddies66 08-17-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 645729)
I'm not worried about the Taliban maintaining anything. I'm saying that if our President was competent enough to have a real plan, we wouldn't have had to leave billions $ of equipment behind. You know....a few tanks here, a few helicopters there, pretty soon we are talking about a lot of resources and money to use in our next Middle East war. I agreed with getting out of Afghanistan (and Viet Nam), but it is how we got out that pizzes me off.

When was it ever the responsibility of the President to get the gear out. Example, the retreat out of the frozen Chosin in Korea. Army commanders bugged out and left all kinds of equipment behind for the Chinese, Marines re-tact marked them and drive off with it. It is the area commander responsibility to disable or destroy equipment as they depart. I always had C4, termite and MK45 shape charged to destroy or disable equipment if I needed to.

SStockDart 08-17-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 645731)
When was it ever the responsibility of the President to get the gear out. Example, the retreat out of the frozen Chosin in Korea. Army commanders bugged out and left all kinds of equipment behind for the Chinese, Marines re-tact marked them and drive off with it. It is the area commander responsibility to disable or destroy equipment as they depart.

Anything that I think, do or say will not make any difference. It only makes me angry. Suppose returning Marines will get spit on.....called losers? Hope not. But you can't blame the President for the loss using your logic. Biden only ordered our military out.....how simple if he would have said "bring our equipment too".

Grey Ghost 08-17-2021 09:03 PM

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Afghanistan and iraq were a knee jerk reaction brought on by a catastrophic failure of our intelligence community in 2001. Somebody had to pay the price for that failure and it sure as hell wasn't going to be the political elite or their anointed buds running any of the alphabet agencies.

Ask the families who lost loved ones on 9-11 who paid. Ask the families of the dead and wounded soldiers who served there who paid. Ask the citizens of those two counties who paid.

The snowflakes in the crapital building said they feared for their lives in the January awakening and they weren't even in the building. Wondering how the dc chimps would feel if they were sitting in the Kabul airport.

Eddies66 08-18-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 645732)
Anything that I think, do or say will not make any difference. It only makes me angry. Suppose returning Marines will get spit on.....called losers? Hope not. But you can't blame the President for the loss using your logic. Biden only ordered our military out.....how simple if he would have said "bring our equipment too".

There were 980 US cargo planes that left out of Bagham Air Base carrying US equipment and troops. Here is a list of equipment that the Afghan Army and Air force has and it looks like a collection of old US and Soviet equipment.

Yes Gary, we can only hope the people in this country will not repeat the sins of the past in the way they treated our Vietnam Vets. I had just graduated from boot camp waiting for my flight back to Phoenix when a lady pointed a finger at me and my Buddy calling us “baby killer”, my quick response to her was, “I haven’t had the opportunity yet”.

BrayJo 08-18-2021 11:23 AM

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Thinking that somehow you can just drop democracy off like a UPS truck upon another country riddled in dysfunction, factions, sects, warlords and where the actual government controls a only a sliver of the country, is a mistake.


When your purpose is to track down the people who were behind 9/11, and said country offers to turn them over and you say no, that's a mistake.


When you along with the Northern Alliance beat back the Taliban, and the Taliban offers surrender of their last stronghold, and you say no, that is mistake.


When you request release captured Taliban prisoners to the tune of 5,000 of them as a negotiation tool, that is a mistake.


When you recognize insurgents and negotiate a May 1 withdrawal with them rather than the actual Afghan gov, that is a mistake.


When the Taliban leader, is one of those you have released from prison and now de facto leader of Afghanistan, that is a mistake.



Afghanistan has been a 20 year mistake regardless of president. We don't learn from history. In fact, we don't learn from the history of others because Russia spent 10 years there dealing with kind of insurgents, only to do the same thing we just did.

MR DERBY CITY 08-18-2021 01:01 PM

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My guess is OBAMA is behind this , Biden is just the puppet. Can’t wait to see more TOWEL HEADS and PRAYER RUGS infiltrate the good ole USA . MY FAVORITE WITCH , OMAR ….was a flapping her gums this morning . She is ready to welcome them with open arms …

BrayJo 08-18-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 645536)
Did anyone really think it all wouldn’t end his way? The Taliban was kicking the Afghan forces butts regardless of how many troops we had there to support them. It didn’t matter one iota which administration finally pulled the plug.


Yes. To put this into perspective, there are about 60,000 Taliban forces in Afghanistan, the standing Afghanistan Army was about 300,000+.

You can lead a horse to water, give the arms to guard the pond, but you can't make em drink.

6130 08-18-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 645768)
My guess is OBAMA is behind this , Biden is just the puppet. Can’t wait to see more TOWEL HEADS and PRAYER RUGS infiltrate the good ole USA . MY FAVORITE WITCH , OMAR ….was a flapping her gums this morning . She is ready to welcome them with open arms …

I'm not sure if Barack Hussein is the puppet master, but I am sure that Biden is the puppet...

SStockDart 08-19-2021 05:21 PM

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If only General Berger had more transgenders, more females, and an earlier start to critical race theory training we would have totally won this.

Randy Wells 08-19-2021 06:42 PM

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Come on you Trump haters, what do you have to say about your hero pervert Joe NOW? Giving terrorist billions of dollars in munitions, open borders, covid is back. (YEAH OK), inflation, etc, etc,etc.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

Billy Nees 08-19-2021 06:42 PM

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I wonder what this is going to do to the "Green-New-Deal"? Seeing as battery technology centers around lithium batteries at this moment and all of the worlds known lithium deposits are in China and Afghanistan. Oh, and Greenland. Didn't Trump want to buy Greenland??? I seem to remember the haters thinking that was a stupid idea.

Randy Wells 08-19-2021 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 645864)
I wonder what this is going to do to the "Green-New-Deal"? Seeing as battery technology centers around lithium batteries at this moment and all of the worlds known lithium deposits are in China and Afghanistan. Oh, and Greenland. Didn't Trump want to buy Greenland??? I seem to remember the haters thinking that was a stupid idea.

Billy, we will be beholden to China for our batteries, they will control all the lithium, and they will let the Taliban rule Afghanistan like the heathens they are as long as China gets the Lithium., and the opium.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628


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