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Billy Nees 10-31-2021 09:20 AM

"Section by section
 
revisions to the Stock Eliminator Rule Book written by the ACTIVE Racers on this forum"

Here ya go Frank, have at it!

Billy Nees 10-31-2021 09:33 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
"Section 10A - Stock Cars"

So what's "Stock" anymore?
Should Copos, DPs and CJs (and Thunderbolts, a-990s) be considered "Stock"? Or should they be in SS.

GUMP 10-31-2021 09:44 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
There should be a rule added that states,"If you haven't done everything allowed within the current rules, you should hush and get out in your shop and work on your racecar."

Billy Nees 10-31-2021 09:59 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 651209)
There should be a rule added that states,"If you haven't done everything allowed within the current rules, you should hush and get out in your shop and work on your racecar."

But the more "liberalized" current rules affect different combos differently.

(This is going off-track in a hurry!)

L.Fite 10-31-2021 10:11 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 651208)
"Section 10A - Stock Cars"

So what's "Stock" anymore?
Should Copos, DPs and CJs (and Thunderbolts, a-990s) be considered "Stock"? Or should they be in SS.

While not "Active" (I am building a car to go racing again)...

I have always felt the COPO's and other non VIN factory race cars should be in SS or Comp.

They stray too far from what is written in the STOCK rules...
Rear ends, transmissions, etc. etc.

They are neat cars and wouldn't mind owning one, but just think they are not in the spirit of Stock...

Weren't the T-Bolts and A-990s originally in SS or FX?

Also... on another point... I'm not happy where Pro Stock has gone either.

Just my 22 cents (adjust for inflation)

SDT1DYI 10-31-2021 10:56 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 651208)
"Section 10A - Stock Cars"

So what's "Stock" anymore?
Should Copos, DPs and CJs (and Thunderbolts, a-990s) be considered "Stock"? Or should they be in SS.

Stock Car Classification rule should be, the OEM must produce 500 Vin # tagged Vehicles, available to the general public a YEAR to qualify to compete in NHRA Stock Eliminator.
Special purpose built, non vin tagged " stock cars" are considered " Super Stock" cars and must compete in Super Stock Eliminator. These cars will race with the same classification and rule requirements, HP and indexes as they currently do in Stock Elininator Eliminator BUT will complete in Super Stock eliminations.
Just need NHRA to put the verbiage in the 2022 rule book.

Steve Teeter STK/SS 620.

GUMP 10-31-2021 11:01 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 651210)
But the more "liberalized" current rules affect different combos differently.

(This is going off-track in a hurry!)

I've got a little experiment going this Winter. I'll post my findings in the build section in the Spring.

Billy Nees 11-01-2021 10:37 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Section 10A -Stock Cars
Requirements & Specifications
Engines: 1

OK? What needs to be changed, opened up or reeled in?

GUMP 11-01-2021 10:56 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Stock style lifters. No limited travel hydraulics.

Put the valve spring back to where it was a few years ago.

Billy Nees 11-01-2021 11:02 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 651299)
Stock style lifters. No limited travel hydraulics.

Put the valve spring back to where it was a few years ago.

That would sure change/fix a lot of things.

Charles Stewart 11-01-2021 11:14 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
But first, in the section Class designations this sentence must following to this text:
"Only those cars listed in the guide are "eligible" for competition"
If there are no engine specs, then you cannot race it in Stock
Charles Stewart

paul riddle 11-02-2021 06:26 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Section 10B "stock cars" "Electric vehicle " Or would they be looked at as a red headed stepchild As the copo's , Cj , and Dp are?

Keith 944 11-02-2021 08:58 AM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paul riddle (Post 651359)
Section 10B "stock cars" "Electric vehicle " Or would they be looked at as a red headed stepchild As the copo's , Cj , and Dp are?

Oh boy, that’s going to be like poking a sleeping bear or hitting a hornets nest with a stick! It will be interesting to say the least if/when they blend them into stock.

FireSale 11-02-2021 01:45 PM

Re: "Section by section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith 944 (Post 651364)
Oh boy, that’s going to be like poking a sleeping bear or hitting a hornets nest with a stick! It will be interesting to say the least if/when they blend them into stock.

Nooop. EVs run Shock Eliminator. Mods to the powertrain put them into Super Shock. Run the rounds after those pesky noise curfews or maybe on the Quiet Days Pacific has to schedule to keep the neighbors happy.


On topic, Stockers should be required to have titles from a dealer. No salvage titles allowed. And at least one expired insurance card to prove the car was street legal at one time. I always thought of SS as standing for Suped up Stockers. Title required. salvage OK, Lbs/CID rating, original make/model motor, any modifications including bore/stroke. back half limited to 10.5 tire max. Basically, take a street car and hot-rod it.
FWD conversions go to Comp and GT cars with non model correct motors go to Pro ET or dust off Modified.

SBillinson 11-02-2021 02:45 PM

Re: "Section by section
 
Since roller rockers are allowed, so should screw in studs for all heads. No pedestal rockers.


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