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doglover44 11-30-2021 07:00 PM

Factory X
 
What does everyone think of the new FX category in the works ?

Billy Nees 11-30-2021 07:06 PM

Re: Factory X
 
More stupid rich guy tricks.

Superfan1 11-30-2021 08:06 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 653064)
More stupid rich guy tricks.

Rich guys for sure; but it has the potential to be great (6.90s@200 mph). That is, if the NHRA doesn't screw it up as they have done with the Factory Stock Showdown; and, to a lesser degree, Pro Mod.

Eric Merryfield 11-30-2021 08:17 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Well I was reading through the rules the other day, looks super fast thats for sure.....

not so sure about a 26 inch front tire with those monsters, what are they going to launch at 1500 or idle to not go red?

Eric

doglover44 11-30-2021 08:39 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Is this supposed to replace Factory Stock ?

Superfan1 12-01-2021 06:01 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 653071)
Is this supposed to replace Factory Stock ?

The official answer from the NHRA is no, it is not supposed to replace the Factory Stock Showdown; but only time will tell.

Ralph A Powell 12-01-2021 07:25 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Within 2 years NHRA’S Hipshotting will have it so screwed up some racers will be home setting out race’s crying about BOP!

BG56 12-01-2021 08:01 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 653071)
Is this supposed to replace Factory Stock ?

I see it possibly replacing Pro Stock. Closer to factory's wishes. But what to do with PS?

doglover44 12-01-2021 09:34 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph A Powell (Post 653117)
Within 2 years NHRA’S Hipshotting will have it so screwed up some racers will be home setting out race’s crying about BOP!

Thats what I was wondering if that were to happen then where else would you be able to race these purpose built cars ?

Rose Racing 12-01-2021 11:23 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 653132)
Thats what I was wondering if that were to happen then where else would you be able to race these purpose built cars ?

NMCA and Radial Tire Events

otnipecar 12-02-2021 12:54 AM

Re: Factory X
 
I saw this and could only think about the whole Pro Stock Truck fiasco.

Hope not but.......

Ralph A Powell 12-02-2021 09:15 AM

Re: Factory X
 
Same Organization running the show!

jmcarter 12-02-2021 10:22 AM

Re: Factory X
 
See where Aaron Stanfield will have a FX car out later this year. Just another sign that Pro Camaro is on it’s last legs. FS plus FX will give the manufacturers two different venues to flex their muscle, unless NHRA mucks it up of course.

Jack Matyas 12-02-2021 10:59 AM

Re: Factory X
 
Seems like this will be the Pro Stock replacement next year if they get enough racers to build them - the question is where will they come from - Pro Stock or Factory Showdown ? Maybe even Pro Mod . Somehow in the meantime Comp will have to have them to race with - that will help their entry numbers .

The idea of all that HP with a stick on 10" tires should be entertaining for sure - all that and only 2650 lbs onboard .........

Mike Pearson 12-02-2021 12:43 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I dont think this new class is running in Comp next year. They originally said it was an exhibition class for next season. To run comp they would need an index. I guess they will see how many cars get built and what kind of participation they get will determine what really happens with the class. I personally think the small tire is a mistake. Fans dont want to watch a bunch of aborted runs. Supposedly fans dont like pro stock so I dont see them knocking the door down to watch this class. They will need traction control on them. I suspect the guys that are running FS Showdown will be involved to some point and maybe some pro stock teams will build cars. It wont be cheap so us commoners wont be involved. I see it as a pro class. They will need a good size team to pull the trans and clutch every pass like PS.

J.R. Haddad 12-02-2021 12:47 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I believe they will run in Comp. at all LODRS events in 2022, and in exhibition form at select National events.

J.R.

Rob Petrie E395 12-02-2021 04:12 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I haven’t looked into this new class much. But is it going to be like Allen Johnson prpoposed a few years ago? Which was basically a FS or FSS engine in a PS chassis? I thought that sounded really cool.

Superfan1 12-02-2021 06:33 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 653159)
I believe they will run in Comp. at all LODRS events in 2022, and in exhibition form at select National events.

J.R.

That is my understanding as well.

doglover44 12-02-2021 07:18 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Wonder who will have the 1st one built ?

Ben Holt 12-02-2021 08:16 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I can tell you that if this deal ends up in comp before the 4 valve 4 cylinder dragster class happens there will be some exploding heads!!!! What a crock!!!

But back on topic.....as far as the tire goes. the 33 x 10.5 w x 16 is definitely not a "small" tire. It may not be a 16" steamroller that PS runs now, but for the FSS guys that have all of that experience with the 9" tire, this thing will be a cakewalk. We run that tire on our I/D and it is awesome

My .02!

Floyd Staggs 12-02-2021 10:01 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I haven't read enough about it. Are they going to go old school carberated or will it be new school FI and traction control?

Jack Matyas 12-02-2021 10:05 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 653203)
I haven't read enough about it. Are they going to go old school carberated or will it be new school FI and traction control?

It will be F I but I doubt traction control .

FireSale 12-03-2021 12:52 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I don't have the specifics at hand, but power will be limited to one specific engine per badge. Ford is 2018 (?) supercharged CJ motor with a specified HP rating and drive belt combo. Rich mans crate engine class. Not sure what the rules are for body style and year. Must be a corporate match, though. Thunderbolt with this motor would be worth watching.

Carguy49 12-03-2021 01:23 PM

Re: Factory X
 
There was another thread that discussed this class. It is in the Factory Stock and Super Stock section.

Go to NHRAracer and on the left click on the rules page. When on that page scroll down to the Exhibition rules section.

The class is for 2019 and newer Ford, Chevy and Mopar cars as in COPO, DRAG PACK and COBRA JETS.

The class is on pages 48 thru 58, I believe.

This class should be very cool to watch if NHRA doesn't mess it up as they have other Pro class

Carguy49 12-03-2021 01:46 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I just checked the Comp Eliminator index chart.

Guess what boys and girls we have an index for A/FX as of today - 7.45. This should get interesting now.

Hacksaw 12-03-2021 02:06 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 653227)
I just checked the Comp Eliminator index chart.

Guess what boys and girls we have an index for A/FX as of today - 7.45. This should get interesting now.

That sounds soft for the index. The cars have more tire and are 500 lbs or more lighter.

Superfan1 12-03-2021 05:02 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 653228)
That sounds soft for the index. The cars have more tire and are 500 lbs or more lighter.

At 2650 lbs, the cars are about 1000 lbs lighter than the Factory Stock Showdown cars.

Superfan1 12-03-2021 05:05 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 653190)
Wonder who will have the 1st one built ?

Chris Holbrook's Mustang is currently being built at Jerry Bickel's shop.

Brett C 12-04-2021 10:05 PM

Re: Factory X
 
I really love the idea, with some exceptions. Huge problem is the price tag to play! NHRA really making it difficult for heads up racing to be anything but a huge money spend. This class fits in between Pro Stock & Factory Stock Showdown, so that leads to one or both of those classes suffering, if and only if this class succeeds. Who races in those classes with success? $

Ed Carpenter 12-04-2021 10:56 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett C (Post 653309)
I really love the idea, with some exceptions. Huge problem is the price tag to play! NHRA really making it difficult for heads up racing to be anything but a huge money spend. This class fits in between Pro Stock & Factory Stock Showdown, so that leads to one or both of those classes suffering, if and only if this class succeeds. Who races in those classes with success? $

That’s the problem these classes are only for the wealthy. Simply out of reach for most racers. Not hating on the people that can afford it just stating the facts.

Billy Nees 12-05-2021 08:13 AM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 653312)
That’s the problem these classes are only for the wealthy. Simply out of reach for most racers. Not hating on the people that can afford it just stating the facts.

And NHRA hasn't figured it out yet. They keep looking for that handful of guys that they can milk as their cash cow for a couple of years before those guys get wise and buy a boat.

Adger Smith 12-05-2021 08:35 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Billy, Buying the boat is next for me..
I bought a couple of airplanes about 12 years ago when I parked it all.

1347 12-06-2021 12:41 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Could this new class replace Pro Stock? Pro stock fans have been bitching that the Pro Stock class has become not very relevant, especially when they went to the rule you can run a Chevrolet engine in any manufacturer body. Many people I know who are Ford fans wrote the class off after that. Many were hoping that Factory stock shootout cars would replace Pro Stock. Maybe after a year of exhibition, they will put the remaining Pro Stock cars into Pro Mod and we will go back to a time when Pro Stock had all 3 brands with recognizable bodies and engines that are more aligned with something available from the manufacturer. Even with the price of these cars, I think they will still be cheaper than a current Pro Stock car.
I am hoping thats where this is going. I wasnt old enough to remember home built pro stocks, but by the time I became a fan in the late 70s, it was sort of where Factory X will be.

doglover44 12-06-2021 01:02 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Any ideas or examples of what a Factory X car will look like?

Carguy49 12-06-2021 01:14 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 653383)
Could this new class replace Pro Stock? Pro stock fans have been bitching that the Pro Stock class has become not very relevant, especially when they went to the rule you can run a Chevrolet engine in any manufacturer body. Many people I know who are Ford fans wrote the class off after that. Many were hoping that Factory stock shootout cars would replace Pro Stock. Maybe after a year of exhibition, they will put the remaining Pro Stock cars into Pro Mod and we will go back to a time when Pro Stock had all 3 brands with recognizable bodies and engines that are more aligned with something available from the manufacturer. Even with the price of these cars, I think they will still be cheaper than a current Pro Stock car.
I am hoping thats where this is going. I wasnt old enough to remember home built pro stocks, but by the time I became a fan in the late 70s, it was sort of where Factory X will be.

Duane, I like the way you think. I have followed Pro Stock since the beginning and don't like what it has become. This class could become the new Pro Stock and be fun to watch, IF NHRA doesn't ruin it.

Dyno 12-06-2021 02:47 PM

Re: Factory X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 653385)
Any ideas or examples of what a Factory X car will look like?

They are supposed to be the same as the cars at the dealership, except lower and with a bigger tire on the back.

Superfan1 12-06-2021 04:57 PM

Re: Factory X
 
According to this article, the NHRA plans to maintain parity in Factory X through engine changes. Hopefully, they will be carefully and thoughtfully considered before any changes are made.

https://www.competitionplus.com/drag...hrough-engines

BG56 12-06-2021 06:14 PM

Re: Factory X
 
[QUOTE=1347;653383]Could this new class replace Pro Stock? Pro stock fans have been bitching that the Pro Stock class has become not very relevant, especially when they went to the rule you can run a Chevrolet engine in any manufacturer body. Many people I know who are Ford fans wrote the class off after that. Many were hoping that Factory stock shootout cars would replace Pro Stock. Maybe after a year of exhibition, they will put the remaining Pro Stock cars into Pro Mod and we will go back to a time when Pro Stock had all 3 brands with recognizable bodies and engines that are more aligned with something available from the manufacturer. Even with the price of these cars, I think they will still be cheaper than a current Pro Stock car.
I am hoping thats where this is going. I wasnt old enough to remember home built pro stocks, but by the time I became a fan in the late 70s, it was sort of where Factory X will be. I don't see how PS can run in PM, they're roughly one second behind. Maybe allow power adders? (If that's what you meant)

1347 12-06-2021 07:19 PM

Re: Factory X
 
[QUOTE=BG56;653410]
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 653383)
Could this new class replace Pro Stock? Pro stock fans have been bitching that the Pro Stock class has become not very relevant, especially when they went to the rule you can run a Chevrolet engine in any manufacturer body. Many people I know who are Ford fans wrote the class off after that. Many were hoping that Factory stock shootout cars would replace Pro Stock. Maybe after a year of exhibition, they will put the remaining Pro Stock cars into Pro Mod and we will go back to a time when Pro Stock had all 3 brands with recognizable bodies and engines that are more aligned with something available from the manufacturer. Even with the price of these cars, I think they will still be cheaper than a current Pro Stock car.
I am hoping thats where this is going. I wasnt old enough to remember home built pro stocks, but by the time I became a fan in the late 70s, it was sort of where Factory X will be. I don't see how PS can run in PM, they're roughly one second behind. Maybe allow power adders? (If that's what you meant)

I'm sure they can figure something out, power adders, weight break etc.

Rose Racing 12-07-2021 08:17 AM

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[QUOTE=1347;653413]
Quote:

Originally Posted by BG56 (Post 653410)

I'm sure they can figure something out, power adders, weight break etc.

Just put em in Comp... they are a classic B/A


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