NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council
 

I am of the opinion that we need a new representative in Division 2 for Stock/Super Stock. We need someone that is willing to address the concerns of all.

Anyone have an idea of how the process works?

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I am sorry I don't know him.

Why, is he not sensitive to your input?

I have reached out to our Division 3 rep for some insight on the recent changes in the AHFS. I have also talked with another rep who I know rather well. Both could not provide me with any answers or reasoning why these changes were implemented.

The thing that disturbs me is that those that represent the racers were not involved in any discussion regarding these changes.

Robin

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Daren, I am not familiar how one gets on or off the council, a review of
the current members looks like a competent group of racers. I can't
speak to their involvement or decision making process', or how much
latitude NHRA gives them. The Stock/SuperStock NHRA rep. is
Dave Mohn. His e-mail is dmohn@nhra.com; Perhaps he can shed
some light on the inner workings of the council.

J.R.

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Term limits??? What a novel Idea!

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I know of several guys who were rep's and quit because they felt it was a joke.

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Div 1 rep is Kent Hanley and Div 2 is Mike Crutchfield. Pick up the phone and talk to them. I do all the time. Let me put this in perspective.

I don't know what the actual percentage breakdown is of racers with regards to AHFS. Really isn't this what this about? The other issues like stacking, 3 day races, etc will flair up and are handled in a pretty quick fashion.

For discussion, we will say 1/3rd of the racers have a favorable combination that they want to protect at all cost (I would too).

1/3rd are guys working on their stuff - to the extent they can financially or with knowledge - and there is no way they can catch the soft combos.

Lastly there's the 3rd who probably don't really give a hoot about AHFS unless it impacts them, and are silent.

I know for a fact that neither one of these two are paid for being a rep, nor can you bribe them. They get blamed for many decisions made and not made by NHRA as if they can force or demand NHRA to do what they want. Either can be reached at just about any time and will listen to input. Kent even walked the lanes at a recent race asking racers about AHFS at Indy - taking an informal poll of sorts and it came back 50/50 if i recall correctly and i may not have.

So which 3rd of the racers agendas do you represent? Those who want to penalize soft combos or the group who is soft? They have tried to get some type of balance repeatedly to no avail.

These two, in my opinion, remove themselves from their own agendas and work for their racers and we probably should be saying thank you instead of busting their chops. Call them and talk to them. I can't see many who would do a better job at it.

Michael Volkman
412.651.2356

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What race did Kent walk the lanes and ask about Indy? He did ask about lowering the indexes at Cecil county.

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When a simple “like” won’t suffice you quote the post and only add AMEN!

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Yep you're right. Was indexes. Does it matter? You still have 2 groups with their agendas. No side will make everyone happy. NHRA, SRAC, etc....damned if they do and damned if they don't!

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Yes.


I think that this is a fair statement.


If a racer feels that they have picked a good combination and that work, money, and knowledge will make it a contender, I don't see a problem. If a racer wants charity, I do see one.

If a racer has beaten their combination to death, or had it beaten to death by others, or picked a combination that has been beaten to death, I think that falls into the "that's life" category.


Love Ya Mike, but I think that this post lost merit when the language switched from "favorable" to "soft".


Maybe if I was on the mailing list I would come to the same conclusion? I think that the job would be a real pain for sure. I wouldn't want it!!

It is incredible how many calls, messages, and texts I have gotten over my recent threads. It's very interesting to see what rises to the top when you stir the pot enough.....

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You mean you want someone who agrees with you.
Daren all combos after 2008 are Charity, Specially all of yours, mine and everyone's else
You people really believe NHRA gives a s*** what that committee has to say. It’s just a feel good for NHRA to say look we care about sportsman racer. We have these groups for each style of racing. Then never do anything they bring up or make changes and never inform the committee about them until its a done deal which is more then likely ****** up. Which probably could have been done right the first time if just talked about with the committee.
If and I mean If NHRA wanted to help fix AHFS we would be running some kind of 48 or 64 qualified fields at national event letting 10 or so cars over the quote. or maybe not give racers a WHOLE season to manipulate run data so they can avoid needed HP. When are you guys going to learn its about what's EASY for NHRA not what's good for the class or the racers.

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You kids!!

I tell you what. How about you let me know which class you want to run me in and I'll give you the opportunity to get me some HP the old fashioned way!

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Sounds good FS/F in Gainesville. I will bring my 390 NHRA hp 302ci CJ and you bring your 370 something NHRA HP 350CI copo. Will run heads up you at 150-200 less lbs then me with 48 more CI. That sounds far.

The Class deal is all but dead, Heck NHRA can't even tell us where there so graciously going to let us compete for the $125 trophy and no contingency.
No money, haft the time they run out of trophy's and mail them to you. but what the hell i will run you if you want to flex that under factored COPO combo muscle who I'm I to stop you from beating your chest.

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You are correct many agendas. So put the issues up for a vote BY THE RACERS. Majority wins!!!!! And tell NHRA this is what the racers want. Isn't that what the SRAC should be doing. Telling Nhra what the racers want.

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Charlie you still race? Class was bad enough without the new change to the AHFS. I hope to make it to Gainsville, but I won't even try to win class for the reasons you pointed out. Every year there seems to be a new agenda that takes away from the Stock I used to love. I'm on the 5-year plan. Just would like to get 5 more years in before Stock is ruined to the point, I won't want to race it. SAD

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The same 302 that started around 350 HP?

I'm not running the COPO 350 any more. I will gladly put my 302 COPO in F. You still have a weight disadvantage, but maybe it would be fun?

On the bright side, you've got a 50/50 chance I'll screw-up something!!

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The way the world and NHRA are going, I hope that we're not all on the "5-year" plan!

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Yea Barry i'm still racing now and then if that's what were calling it. Its pretty sad I go now more to see /BS with the older racers because there disappearing at an alarming rate the past few years.

Daren I forgot about that COPO 1.50 under 302 combo. Heck you should be able to out run my CJ by 4 tenths just in the weight difference. I have had my *** kicked before for class. but I will be in Gainesville.

But back to the issue at hand the SRAC will never mean anything. Because NHRA time and time again makes up rules and makes class changes without consulting with its members. Until that changes it doesn't matter who is on the calls or who is the div rep. Were stuck with certain NHRA leaders making decisions based on saving money and time.

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