Why is there a breakout on S/SS combos?
 

Ok were running class and there's so many classes they've designed a combo race. Great Idea but its class right? Why make it just asmother bracket race? My opinion is remove the breakout! It would be keeping with the original Eliminator days. The fastest car wins! What a novel idea!!! Lol! But wait does that always happen? Hmmmm

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Is this for class run offs,if so.There is no break out.They run off their Index.The fastest car wins! What a novel idea!!! Lol!

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I unsuccessfully pushed for that at our's. Course I had a fast car. Really irritated me when I came up against another same class car and I had a dial in on that window. We had scales available most of the times, but not always. Without available scales it's kind of impossible. And then there's the fuel check. Most small clubs have no way of doing them. I advised just ignoring it. I just could not see someone spending the time, money and hassle to use a illegal "Fast" fuel at those races, If they did you would most likely smell it in the lanes. If that became an issue somehow, cross that bridge if it ever happens.

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Not sure I really understand the question here. My one and only class win was in Topeka where I went into the combo class.I won three rounds and there was "no breakout".
I have been competing at several Midwest Class Racer events in a SS/S combo.There are heads up races at these events.
What am I missing here? What are you talking about?

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Yes the Midwest group does things right. But I think a lot of the association races do not have heads up for same class match-ups.

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I am equally confused, there is no break out during class eliminations regardless of whether it is a combo, done it numerous times. Handicapped off index but first to the finishline wins.

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Some of the independent associations have "no heads up runs" at their races. I know the SSSSA was that way. It was voted by the racers to have no heads up to make it a more friendly environment for the slower racers

Our D2 National Open series races is random pair first round and those races have no heads up in round one. Break out is enforced. subsequent rounds are heads up no break out.

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Combo race means what it says
Stock and super stock combined eliminations

Why would there be heads up ?
Also you my lose the paying customer with a slow car
Its a racer friendly race
Can go fast as you want
Get paid some $$$

Why do you live in the past. ?

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I was thinking about this and I think you want both cars to dial in at their index? Then,there is no breakout.
Whoever is the farthest under should theoretically win.
I bet the car counts would really plummet if this ever happens.

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Thats how it was in the old days of Modified Eliminator. You can see that class is no longer in existence. You ran off of the class index. First to the finish line won the round. No Break out .

Comp is run off of the index and no break out. You get CIC hit if you go too far under the index. Comp is having trouble with car counts. The last D2 divisional had 2 comp cars there. So that class is dying a slow death.

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NO Teardown at Combos.
No policing of legality.
Lets run No Breakouts!
I will put my boys bracket 422
in my E/SA and run 9.50 and make it
look like my stocker engine on the outside

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Yes! The mentality my brother. The fastest isn't always the winner though, but isn't that the point? Yet we all in S/SS strive for this pentacle! If we don't the Sport is lost. PERIOD!

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You get it! Money Dude! Put it on a Cracker! Lol

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[QUOTE=PONTIAC'S REVENGE;664380]You don't get it! NO Money Dude!

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This thread is way too confusing from the OP.

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2023 is right around the corner.
Lots of racers are now promoters nowadays.
Put on the first ever Super Stock/Stock "No Breakout Nationals"
Class Eliminations followed by "NO Breakout Eliminations".

See how it does for you.

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Sometimes a thread just goes on and on, same principle as watching a train wreck I suppose…

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Ya know, could Pontiac's Revenge possibly enlighten me as to when there was EVER a no break-out S/SS race? As I can recall, except for Class Runoffs, even in the old Jr. Stock days if you ran more than a tenth faster than the existing record during eliminations, you were out. You also were the new record holder and took the car apart.

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As
I remember Jeff Taylor put on a couple of CIC races for super stock and possibly stock that was 5-6 years ago. I can’t remember all of the details. It was At SGMP