GT/EA Vega question
 

I just saw a '72 Vega on facebook with a 2013 6.2 LS engine running in GT/EA trim. Someone brought up that they thought GT was only for cars originally manufactured with V6 or V8 engines and of course the mighty Vega only came with a 4 cyl. engine. Can anyone clear this up for me?

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

I saw the pictures too.It was competing at the Great Lakes Stock/Super Stock Series which is a fun event.There are no heads up runs and not all cars are technically NHRA/IHRA legal.
Nice car,but I see your point.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

canadian george kreiger has one in the smith can/am series...

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

That's George krieger's Vega. It's show quality and fast. Since it's running GT Super Stock it can run ANY engine that GM made from BBC, SBC, Pontiac, etc. Luke

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So I could put an LS engine in a 1970 Oldsmobile 442 and run in Super Stock GT? I wasn't aware of this.I was under the assumption that I had to run an Oldsmobile engine,but it is a GM car.You may have given me an idea for the future.

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Same deal as the Cobalts, Sunfires, Grand Am's etc.. They can all run whatever GM produced that's in the guide.

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When Camaro and Firebird went away (2000 model year), NHRA was approached with the prospect of waiving the "must have been available with a 4-cylinder or V6", specifically to allow Cavaliers and Sunfires. The argument that won Danny and Bruce over was that earlier J-bodies had been available with V6 engines, and the later versions were essentially the same car. Also, with Camaro and Firebird disappearing, both GM and NHRA wanted a replacement, and J-car fit the bill.

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How about a Mopar engine in an AMC for SS/GT? The AMC can run a Dana or 8.75 rearend.

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I'm really not that familiar with all of the Super Stock GT stuff.
Anybody know if it would be legal to drop in a 1997 LT1 rated at 279 hp into a 1970 442 Convertible? What class would it run?
Seems like it would be pretty easy with this combo to run the index?

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

You could but be advised.... the HP factor of that combo in SS/GT is 295 hp not 279. It is only 279 hp in traditional super stock.

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Oh,so it would go up by 16 horsepower if it was in a 1970 442 convertible because they are so aerodynamic?

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The 2022 Rulebook says any vehicle that is in the classification guide . The engine that is installed must be a V8 . George's car is sweet !!

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The more I learn about SS/GT the more I appreciate Stock Eliminator.

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Man some of you need to brush up on the ol’ rule book

Tim

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Well,I admit that I didn't really follow it.I took a look at the rulebook tonight and had no idea that a foreign car is now legal in Super Stock .A 2007 Honda with an LS engine? Interesting.

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In Super Stock, GT or conventional, there is no rule requiring the use of a rear end from the same manufacturer.

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You are correct. I was thinking about cross over of Mopar/AMC parts in general such as in Stock.

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I'm curious how a Vega with a 6.2 LS fits GT/EA and not GT/AA ? 3900lb Vega or do they rate the 6.2 about the same as an old 283?

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Good morning to all,
Yeah, Rule Book - that was something we used to get with our membership to NHRA?
I used to enjoy reading them while waiting for the rain to stop while at a race. Or made for some spirited discussions during the off season or maybe a " What If " combination. It would be nice to have them around again since we now only get National Dragster once a month!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

I liked the printed one as well, but all members can pull the rule book up on line from the NHRA site. You can still buy them, but there seems to be a lot of revisions each year so on line views are the most up to date.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

Lenny Williams runs a Buick 455 in his GT Camaro.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

6.2 LS is rated at 365hp in SS. So that would put it at 3090# to run GT/EA.

The shipping weight for a 1971 Vega is ~2433 (including the driver) but how much do you add with just the V8 engine alone? Remember they removed the rule limiting how much weight can be removed/added in GT classes.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

Vega is a 5.7 LS1 combo, not the 6.2.

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Interesting...thanks. In that case the math makes a little more sense - 313HP GT factor x 8.00 lbs/HP + 170 lbs. = 2674 lbs. minimum for GT/EA.

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Pictures of George's Vega can be found on the GLSSA FB site: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grea...ockassociation

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Looking at stock rules I was surprised that adapter plates (NHRA approved) are allowed for transmissions. Is that a new change? How do you find out what's approved ?

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

I bought the 2022 rulebook , it is the biggest I have ever seen , at least an inch thick . Also I think last year NHRA dropped using the shipping weights in GT . you just pick the GT class you want to run in and calculate the weight based on the NHRA engine factor .

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

When it comes to Super Stock GT and Modified are where I get lost.

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As a purely hypothetical example could you claim your car is a 1971 or 1972 body, install a 1970 Olds engine and then claim it to be a "GT" class car in Super Stock?

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Yes... probably, not unlike 69 Camaro with '70 465hp 454 (490hp) GT/A or GT/B ?

See Class Racer Info...

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I know there are some sharp racers out there that just with a carb change they can move from traditional SS to GT.

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That's more what I was referring too. I don't know the differences between Dayrl's 1970 and a 71/72, but was thinking someone claiming it as a 70 Body with a 71 low compression engine and you have a GT yet it could also be run as a real SS by just claiming it is a '71. Guess it wouldn't work with early 67/68 Camaro's because of the vent window and 69's being a one off body style. Thanks for the information.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

Bobby,
One would think that's how it's supposed to work but not anymore.
66 Chevy II's running SS/J or SS/K or GT/M
Can't claim a 67 ..No 4 bbl 283's... 65? Different body.
Nobody cares much anymore ..Least of all NHRA tech.
Get your 8 gp's..Get in line..Fight to get in Indy...That's it folks...Slippin' away.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

I heard Lonnie Grim say that they could not get the correct paper for the rule book this year and the paper is thicker. The number of pages is the same or less, I don't remember that part.

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

Nicely done. I can't recall ever seeing a Vegas in Super Stock.

Now how about a 5.0 Coyote Pinto?

Re: GT/EA Vega question
 

I believe in stock for a number of years.
Approved is the question.