After a heads up run
 

Why would a stocker need to drain the fuel after a heads up run. #asking for a friend.

I know the answer and it passes fuel check.

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Dry ice

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Some people run different fuel in a heads up
Dry ice just makes it cold.

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There is an additive that passes I'm sure the ones who know wont say a word,

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Why the discovery channel drama?

If you know, and you care enough to post this, spit it out man! LOL

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What the secret sauce
I’m a cheater and I don’t know

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Interesting question your friend has there Mr Herb jr !!! Bubski also thought it was intriguing and phoned a friend !! Apparently there are fuel additives that the masking agents used to dupe the fuel check will break down rather quickly and may be an issue later on in the day !! Bubski just wondering why they don't put the "fuel check fuel" in the fake radiator overflow like they do in D7 and pull up about a 100 feet away from the scales so a few semis can get weighed and get your fresh sample for tech !! Its good to see someone paying attention !! Cheers !!!

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See it is possible to learn something new every day even at 65 yrs old. I'll try not to be first every time down the track to verify here in D7 we cheat on fuel.
As far as changing fuel. I'm too lazy and run C-11 all the time but some run the less expensive till the time to get a little extra is needed. Possibly in the third person mode your invisible too.

Paul Haszlauer

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Do you just dream this crap up? Such a pathetic attention grab at every chance.
Us racers police ourselves pretty hard. You can bet you Bubski ash any racer involved in a heads up would call out a competitor that stopped to dump fuel or switch lines. Second tech officials for the uneducated do peak under the hood when giving the sample. Not always but more often than you might think. Plus there has not been a competitor caught doing something like this in decades if ever.

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More than likely it was C25, also the secret sauce that makes there cars go faster is a mix of time, effort, and money. Congratulations to both racers for having bad *** cars and were not afraid to turn them loose. Truly this is what class racing is all about. Tom

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Who is this Asshole that talks in the 3rd person ??

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Bubski since you know so much
What is the fuel additive
Cheaters want to know

This secret is better protected than the January 6th committee

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Sad to say obviously this space cadet Bubski is a D7 resident. I have a guess but surely don't want to insult anyone.

Paul

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I know more than one racer who have a sealed 5 gallon container of C25 in their trailer that is used solely for a heads up or go fast run, they dump it in and then drain it back out after the run, what's the big mystery here? Anyone who hasn't seen a fuel cell drained after a fast run and/or thinks something funny is going on hasn't been around class racing much.

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I thought Ken got rid of this clown already….

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Sooooo !! Yowie Wowie !! This ones for u who can't read a rulebook and all the other sheep !! What Bubski is saying is that the fuel check process ,technology !! is around 1980's - 1990's tech and there are ways around it !! Through no fault of NHRA !! NHRA does the best they can with their limited resources and the racers do the best they can with their unlimited resources !! Why do all you guys n gals hold your hand over the sample cup as you present it to tech ?? Chemistry has progressed exponentially in the years since the fuel check came out !! Your Nerdy neighbor may have the answers you need and some are listening !! Bubski's is tired !! just got back on a land line and will most certainly get back to the other ridiculous thread real soon !! Class Racer offers a forum for all opinions !! To those who think Bubski shouldn't be heard !! Bubski says thanks !! for being a fan of the current establishment in the US !! Bubski would also like to thank CLASS RACER and all the free uncensored media !! CHEERS !!

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Yo Ken
Let's not dismiss the Bubski whoever this racer is or was, as the WOKE culture might. Unless he crosses the line, which he's careful not to. This dude is a dick and we all know it. However it's entertaining in a rhetorical sense.

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Yo !! Soooo!! Mr Castro !! are u related to Fidel ?? You just crossed the line !! However Bubski is too mature and will not fall for your idol worship of those who are cheating and laughing in your WOKE face !! And to Mr Carpenter who suffered immensely to make the SS/K shootout a reality !! Bubski is disgusted by his WOKENESS and compliance !! That's it !! Bubski must sleep now !! Tomorrow Bubski will start the truth all over again !! Cheers !! to you blokes suffering in the darkness !! And thanks again to CLASS RACER !! FOR PROVIDING A VOICE OF REASON !!

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Sorry,but this guy is NO CLASS RACER!

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Umm. I sometimes keep my hand over the sample cup and sometimes don't. I cover it when I slightly overfill it or have a longer walk so it does not spill or splash on my firesuit.

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What I have observed at the US National’s. A racer had a flask, yes the kind a person puts liquor in, full of fuel that would check good and he passed and went to the next round.

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Rich, as ANNOYING as Bubski is ,…he does speak the truth. Just like dummy batteries up front , gutted out alternators, the fuel sample that a racer submits in fuel check isn’t always the fuel that is run in the car. I remember the days when the tech man would siphon the fuel from the tank.

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I too cover my cup going to fuel check because I saw other people doing it and I didn't want to be left out so there's actually a purpose to it? Lmao
I thought it was to keep from spilling it on my pants!

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The same reason I do it.

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Bubski regrets that some find him annoying !! However Bubski does only speak the truth and many are offended by it !! Bubski speaks in the 3rd person to show empathy and to distance himself from the shenanigans of the WOKE crowd !! Bubski does not agree with the Tom foolery goin on in CLASS RACING !! Anyone can call a fuel supplier especially a one who's name is an acronym and buy whatever you desire !! Maybe the onion smell will give you away !! Probably not !! Its ludicrous to think a racer with several hundred grand at the track would be so cheap to have a "bracket fuel" and a "heads up fuel" What could you possibly do with the 20$$ you saved ?? Bubski would also like to inform the Woke that pattern recognition is vital to success !! Intelligence is not knowing everything about one topic !! Its about recognizing patterns of the fast and winners !! And understanding what those people are up to as you exhaust every option at your disposal to be successful yourself !! Cheers !! Bubski would like to again thank CLASS RACER for being an open forum!!

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[QUOTE=bubski;668154]Bubski regrets that some find him annoying !! However Bubski does only speak the truth and many are offended by it !! Bubski speaks in the 3rd person to show empathy and to distance himself from the shenanigans of the WOKE crowd !! Bubski does not agree with the Tom foolery goin on in CLASS RACING !! Anyone can call a fuel supplier especially a one who's name is an acronym and buy whatever you desire !! Maybe the onion smell will give you away !! Probably not !! Its ludicrous to think a racer with several hundred grand at the track would be so cheap to have a "bracket fuel" and a "heads up fuel" What could you possibly do with the 20$$ you saved ?? Bubski would also like to inform the Woke that pattern recognition is vital to success !! Intelligence is not knowing everything about one topic !! Its about recognizing patterns of the fast and winners !! And understanding what those people are up to as you exhaust every option at your disposal to be successful yourself !! Cheers !! Bubski would like to again thank CLASS RACER for being an open forum!![/QUOTE

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I think Bubski understands a lot more about
whats going on than you are giving him
credit for!

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James in Columbus this year they did fuel check for all the stockers after a time trial. I was in line for at least 10 min. Mine along with several others didn't check. They let us pull a sample from our fuel cell and go to the front of the line. Mine along with others passed.

bubski may be an *** but if you guys think that some aren't playing with fuel you are naive. The Pro Stockers weren't the only ones that got caught with nitous. Anyone remember the Super Stocker that got caught with it in his fire extinguisher? Blew his hatch back off. How many remember one of the fuel companies that sold an additive right at the track that would pass fuel check. 007 BP

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Bubski revered? OMG! Good for him.

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Frank, Bubski should do a big reveal and let us know who he is. Talk normal stop acting like and ***. Maybe his post would get some respect. He has had some valid points. Not all but some.
A few years back I had two brothers now retired from stock tell me they used a company in NJ that blended fuel that was better than VP and would pass off as VP. They each had their own car. They seemed to disappear from the stock scene. At Indy one year one of their cars was picked for the barn. To their surprise they asked for a piston and rod. One of the brothers told me they were not going to pass. I laughed to myself because I already knew that. His car sounded more like a comp car in the water box. Without saying their names he had a gorgeous corvette.

Indy this year if you had a dry ice stand you could have made a bunch of money. I saw more dry ice going into fuel cells than I have ever seen there. BP

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The cool thing about this forum is that I am learning more about how to cheat than I knew was possible. Sounds like fun....

My understanding that the reason we keep our hand over the fuel cup is that the sun could have an effect on it during that 40 foot walk from the car to the tester. Seems kinda dumb but I'm ignant so I can say this kind of stuff.

Does anybody know what kind of advantage in terms of ET an illegal fuel has vs. a legal fuel.(because I don't). In other words, what is the risk/reward of that type of cheating. I'm too fat to hide nitrous in my jacket so I need some fresh ideas.

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I cover the cup with a rag so i don't spill fuel.

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One purpose for covering the cup is to contain the light ends that evaporate from the fuel when exposed to atmosphere. [https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...oline-it-ages/

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Put a cup of race fuel in the sun and see how long it takes to totally evaporate. Ever notice when you spill race fuel on the ground, it's gone about as quick as it hits the ground.

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Grape the risk is facing yourself in the reflection glass in the morning if you crossed the line.

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I had the same problem with my C-11 out in Columbus. Waited in line for 10 minutes, fuel failed. Got another sample, waited again, failed. Finally they let me skip to the front of the line with a final sample and it was good.

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Barry,
I know of these brothers and their Corvette.
Frank

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Aaah yes, Power Mist.

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Barry, shame on you for throwing the ABBAZIA brothers under the bus….LOL. '!!!!!!!!!!!

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A company named ERC used to make a fuel called C25 clone. Was supposed to be worth Hp and passed the field test as C25.

A racer that I knew as a kid ( long retired ) that used to blend his own fuel and dye it to look like Sunoco. He could also adjust how it checked to get it in line with the fuel he was claiming. Again, it passed the field test, not a lab test. Do they even do the lab test anymore?