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jkblade 12-07-2022 10:19 AM

Monocoque Wheels
 
Do the original Monocoque wheels have rivets or are they smooth inside? I'm looking at a set that are smooth but all the Google pictures show rivets.

Al Reed 12-07-2022 10:23 AM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
Had Monocoque's brand new back in the 80's.

Bogart made them, still can get new one's.

As someone else said, they are welded together.

Cragars were bolted, Centerlines were riveted.

jkblade 12-07-2022 10:32 AM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
Thanks Al, I was under the impression they were discontinued a while back and Bogarts website doesn't show them so I sent an email.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Reed (Post 671937)
Had Monocoque's brand new back in the 80's. They are bolt together. Centerlines are riveted.

Bogart made them, still can get new one's.


jkblade 12-07-2022 10:38 AM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
I just looked on Ebay and it shows both styles, is it possible they made a bolted together aluminum wheel for drag racing and a chrome steel smooth wheel that was welded?

Mike Pearson 12-07-2022 11:10 AM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
I have original Monocoque wheels. They do not have bolts. The halves are welded together. The early wheels did bolt together. I bought mine just before Monocoque went out of business and Bogart started making their style wheels. To my knowledge they were never riveted

jkblade 12-07-2022 03:03 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
Just talked to Ricky Bogart and they can still make that original wheel but they don't advertise it. He also took a few minutes to tell me a quick story about how they started making them which was very interesting, wooden jigs on a drill press with a hole saw to put the holes in the wheels, among other stuff.

Al Reed 12-09-2022 09:06 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
They (Bogarts) did originally make them. They are again, now marketed as Drag-On-Fly solid.

I just looked at photos of my Monocoque's back in the 80's, they were bolted. Maybe they offered welded and bolted back then?

jkblade 12-09-2022 10:59 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
The Drag-On-Fly solid isn't the same, they call the original wheel, that they still make, the Challenger Lite but it's not on their website. Bogart made them for the company that originally marketed them and when that company, quite literally, disappeared overnight Bogart just continued making them and they still make them today but they don't advertise that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Reed (Post 672098)
They (Bogarts) did originally make them. They are again, now marketed as Drag-On-Fly solid.

I just looked at photos of my Monocoque's back in the 80's, they were bolted. Maybe they offered welded and bolted back then?


ken robinson 12-10-2022 02:48 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
My first set of front rims from them are bolt together from 1985 second set are one piece asm welded .Both sets cracked in the same pleases but lasted years .

MR DERBY CITY 12-10-2022 10:33 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ken robinson (Post 672130)
My first set of front rims from them are bolt together from 1985 second set are one piece asm welded .Both sets cracked in the same pleases but lasted years .

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but if its a true Monocoque it’s not a matter of IF it will crack BUT when it will crack. Be extra careful of cars that are very front end heavy ….

Jim Hawkins 01-22-2023 12:52 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
How about rear wheels cracking? I have a set of 15x13 I would like to run but am concerned about stories of these wheels cracking. Was this a problem with fronts only? They are light.
Holeshot makes a similar wheel with the holes.

John Dinkel 01-22-2023 01:35 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
Never cracked a rear wheel only front wheels. I'm sure it's because wheelies and turning loads make it happen.

SGSST109E 01-23-2023 07:41 AM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
original Monocoque wheels were bolted. Picked up mine at Larry kopps house

richie 2 01-23-2023 08:22 AM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
larry brought me a new set to cauyga wwcs '82. beauty's they were.

Race Clean 01-23-2023 01:12 PM

Re: Monocoque Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hawkins (Post 674597)
How about rear wheels cracking? I have a set of 15x13 I would like to run but am concerned about stories of these wheels cracking.

I had a rear rim crack right at the weld after about 10 years of use.
It was the 3 piece where the rims are welded together and center are bolted.
By then mr Bogart had taken over the business so I got in contact with him.
I got an explanation about the crack and that was that the ¨old Monoqoque management¨ at the time was using up a stock of some older inner rim halves to save money that where not made to go together with just that outer rim for welding by ending up so the V you need to put a good weld in place couldn't be had because one rim half went straight up another inch compared to the outer rim causing uneven stress on the rims at the weld.(yes it cracked on the rim that was straight)
Sent both wheels and Bogart fixed the wheels (both) with the right inner halves.

I still like them and will keep on using them,


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