DLC coated lifters
 

So where do most racers /builders get their DLC coated lifters ??
I'm asking for a friend

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I use only Trend. Dealt with PPP, once. Never again. Trend has always been really good to me. Most of what I sell is not coated, because they're using them on cast core cams.

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I would call Debbie at PPP and ask about delivery. They make a good product if you can get them. I believe their coating work is done in France. The DCL coating is only as good as the company applying it. PPP has struggled producing lifters, no question about it.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620.

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PPP came through with a set for me last month. I talked to Debbie a couple of times and she was very nice to deal with and gave me straight up answers to my questions.

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PPP did ours and they still look new

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now my ?? how much. for just coating -- steel lifters w/ coating.
i have been told $2000 for coated lifters or $1200 for just coating.

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I see that Calico is offering DLC coating now. I don't know any details but thought it would be of interest.

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I have used this company for a few projects in the past. They have a number of coating options. The quality was always spot on.

https://crystallumepvd.com/


Cole

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So can none of you recall what you paid for the DLC coating on lifters. How about to coat a camshaft.?? $$

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I purchased my lifter from Trend already coated. As I recall the coated lifters were about $6-800 more than the uncoated tool steel lifters. After talking to some people, I think you can get the coating from an outside source for much less.

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I don’t remember how much but it was way cheaper than a crank, pistons, rings, cam, block, lifters, oil pump, and Band-Aid’s. Those shards of metal go right through those blue gloves.

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https://www.armorlube.com/

https://www.ionbond.com/technology/d...iAAEgJQQvD_BwE

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So i guess you racers were not told by your eng.builder what they paid for coated lifters.
i looked on trends price sheet, they were getting $1408 before the shortages and now i am told close to $2000, but since other people are posting company websites i will post my suggestion too ,might even be better than dlc -- go to forcealtered.com

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To make a claim that it might be better than DLC, please present objective evidence for the claim such as test results. DLC has been used and tested for decades in both the aerospace and racing industry.

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Tell us a little about them . Do they have to rotate? Can they be used on multiple cams ? Do they have to be refaced ? Im talking the johnsons not the tool steel.

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ProfessorRock has permission to post there services.

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That's great but if they have a product to sell why not just come out and tell every one up front rather than the 20 questions approach.
I personally am much more likely to do business with a company that is up front about every thing.

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I only sell or use DLC when I'm also selling or using a steel cam. Most guys in Stock seem to still be using cast core camshafts, and that means no DLC.


I'm going to have to see some serious data from reliable known sources before using anything different. I don't even like DLC, any more than I like Shubeck style lifters. But DLC is "the devil I know".

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Apologies for the late response. I have been sick with COVID.

My goal here is merely to help shed some light on what we have all been discussing for some time now- the choices of lifters and steel cams and how it has affected the class and even the reliability of some vital engine components.

First let me clarify my DLC Comments. I said “this may be better than DLC”. I am not arguing that DLC has been used or even may be useful in certain scenarios.
Let me explain the difference in the two products and some of my background to help bring some clarity. I can tell you these facts:

-is extremely slick-is slicker than moly and dlc
-is itself a lubricant that bonds in a thin layer .5 to 1 micron with the surface by chemically interacting on a molecular level with the substrate.

We use a proprietary technology called “Force Altered” under license from Force Altered Technologies, Inc.
DLC is indeed very hard, but it is not extremely slick. The main drawback to DLC (aside from the ridiculous cost) is if you should experience the lifter bouncing off the cam (it can and does happen) the DLC will shatter and proliferate throughout your entire engine and cause a very expensive rebuild.

The coating I am offering simply does not do this. We use a completely different process and the coating is not dipped, or uses a PDV process.. It actually bonds to the base material on a molecular level creating and new surface entirely.

Is it proven? Yes. I have record holders using it and even the US Nationals winner. We haven’t even discussed piston rings yet.

If you honestly want to know more I am happy to talk to anyone on the phone to discuss. This is just not the place to play 20 questions. I sincerely want to help and that was my reason for posting in the first place.

Coated Lifters Pic.