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Don Kennedy 01-08-2023 11:38 AM

The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
If it were me The way the World champions' chase would settle is this way. the winner of the Points races of each division at the end of the year would meet at Bowling Green Drag strip for the Run-Offs

Billy Nees 01-08-2023 11:43 AM

Re: The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
Don, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this kinda/sorta the way it used to be? You had to "qualify" to go to the World Finals?

Dave Casey 01-08-2023 12:36 PM

Re: The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
Yes , I believe you are correct Billy , Amy Faulk (SS) and Bob Newberry (Comp) are 2 that I believe won championships under that format

4543 01-08-2023 01:05 PM

Re: The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
The damn quotas may have a significant impact on the championships.

e vassar 01-08-2023 01:06 PM

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Interesting!
Sort of like the ROC at the bracket finals.

Keith 944 01-08-2023 01:36 PM

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Not unlike ihra a while back. Thing I don’t care for in the one race takes all scenario is the world champion can be the guy that just got lucky that day. I know the whole chase is flawed, but I do believe earning points throughout the year and struggling to travel is part of the reward if it pays off

Mark Yacavone 01-08-2023 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 673768)
Don, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this kinda/sorta the way it used to be? You had to "qualify" to go to the World Finals?

Yes. Top 5 , each division. Then you had to qualify for 32 spots, after having to travel half way across the country.
How many people would go for that, today?

Adger Smith 01-08-2023 02:17 PM

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Top 6 in each division go to the finals. Then fill the 50 quota with past champions and gold cards. Then run off a 48 or 32 car ladder qualified off the index. Division winners are pre qualified 1-7 based on divisional points.

Jack Matyas 01-08-2023 04:59 PM

Re: The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 673768)
Don, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this kinda/sorta the way it used to be? You had to "qualify" to go to the World Finals?


Sure was - I had one opportunity and didn't go --- been sorry about that move ever since .I believe it was the top 5 from each division .

Don Kennedy 01-08-2023 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 673789)
Sure was - I had one opportunity and didn't go --- been sorry about that move ever since.I believe it was the top 5 from each division.

This is a great idea this way the level playing field is there with only 5 races in your division counting for the Championship Shoot Out Finals At Bowling Green Drag Strip / Who cares about the national events no one can get in unless you spend a ton of money to get in with a lot of points meets,

GUMP 01-09-2023 08:50 AM

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So we need to remove dedication and skill from the points chase now?

I for one, enjoyed watching the points chase last year. I really can't see how the system is broken.

Billy Nees 01-09-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 673807)
I really can't see how the system is broken.

Ya know, it's a funny thing. I don't think that the system is broken, or for that matter needs to be changed. BUT, clearly the old system favored the Divisional points and filled in with National/Divisional points totals. The NEW system totally favors a National/Divisional points total BUT at the same time requires the Racer to race at a minimum number of Divisional races to be able to compete (grade points) at National Events.
IMHO, the NEW system doesn't necessarily allow the "Best Racer" to win.

GUMP 01-09-2023 10:40 AM

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I don't know that you can build the perfect system. But, I don't think the current one should have any drastic changes.

I would like to see a small bonus for records, class, and qualifying to bring back the performance side of things.

If you haven't run your full allowance of Divisionals, are you really serious about chasing points?

I sometimes wonder if some of the older crowd have forgotten how they "lived class racing" when they were younger. It seems that it has become just one small part of their lives now. One that they like to complain about constantly.

novassdude 01-09-2023 12:08 PM

Re: The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
Why is it that Bowling Green is always the supposed central place to hold something like this? It is no where near the center of the US.
Geographically the best track is Great Bend Kansas. I assume that is why the first Nationals was held there.

Ron Ortiz 01-09-2023 01:12 PM

Re: The Chase fro the World Champship now is flawed
 
Some people attend divisional races and make a decision to chase points after several races. Of course everyone has aspirations at the beginning of the season. A true championship would be each division sending its champion to a centralized location.

As for older people complaining of how things were, all the younger generation will be doing the same when they reach the same age. Things always change though, and that provides differences of opinions. BUT, don't forget it is NHRA's race, their rules. Your input is appreciated.

How many of you still share your National Dragster.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA my car has a bench seat.

Mike Pearson 01-09-2023 02:45 PM

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It takes 3 things to be the champion. Great driver. Great car. Enough money to chase the points. All recent champions have had all 3. The system that is in place now seems to work just fine. I dont see a need to change it.

Don Kennedy 01-09-2023 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 673824)
It takes 3 things to be the champion. Great driver. Great car. Enough money to chase the points. All recent champions have had all 3. The system that is in place now seems to work just fine. I dont see a need to change it.

There are many Great Drivers, Many Great Cars,But may not have the financial assets or the privilege of ”TIME” so they will never be world champions that is why the system I suggest will work

Mike Pearson 01-09-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 673826)
There are many Great Drivers, Many Great Cars,But may not have the financial assets or the privilege of ”TIME” so they will never be world champions that is why the system I suggest will work

Don,
I don't have any of those qualifications and definitely don't have the time. With a bit of luck I could contend for a D2 Championship. I dont fit the great driver category and I have a decent car. I have finished top 10 in D2 2 of the last 3 years. Not bad for a 64 year old guy with a home built car.

JIM MARSHALL 01-09-2023 05:19 PM

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I can tell you from personal experience the best system was back in 1981 when I finished number 3 in the points behind Mr Jeff Taylor and Ronnie Cardwell .I'm old but we had tio claim all of our races in succession no chosing the best out of 3 National or 8 Divisonal. I'm pretty sure that was Jeffs first National Championship.Back then I was raising my family and had pretty much 2 weeks vacation and was able to accompish that. Fast forward today a working man has pretty much zero chance to attain that feat.I love drag racing and all the wonderful people Pam I have met over the years but that is cruel reality,

2tone 01-09-2023 05:38 PM

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