Revised Valve Job specifications posted NHRA.com
 

Take a look at the Revised rules for 2008 on NHRA site. Deleted the sentence about maintaining Factory OEM valve angle on both head and valve. No more .250 below valve seat wording either. Looks like Any valve job permitted.....Period!, and you can replace all valve seats. Get out the "bowl hogs" and have at it!!!

Hey Adger, looks like you spent your money wisely.

Later RJ

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Thanks RJ,
Well, I feel a little better. It's about time we got the seat deal behind us. Now we can save some of this old iron & not have to pay so much for virgin castings. The collector s are making it toooo expensive on us racers. The seats.. might as well have any V/J. Way too hard to Tech the old way..
Let me be the first to say: shortly there might be another rule updated with "more Correct wording" Just wait & see!

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Not that I don't believe you,but where exactly are these rule revisions posted?
The way things are going right now,I'm thinking that INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES may be optional.Jet engines permitted.

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you guys know this is nhra's way of letting us go fast so in 09 they have a reason to take 2 tenths off of the indexs

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2 tenths off indexes is a f*****ng joke how about 1/2 second to get even for all the bull**** we have been given since 1992 when they were RAISED ?????

anyway if they enforce -115 rule why would anyone waste the $$$ to update heads etc ????

jack mccarthy

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In addition, there is also a picture on the December 14, 2007 issue of ND, page 126.

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No, merge us with super stock ...

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If you follow the history of the class,most rules get changed because so many people were doing it anyways.I bet there is more than one Stock Eliminator car out there that already has "Any Valve Job" and is ready to go for 2008!
Thanks for posting the link!

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This is an Ave. much traveled by Mike Keener. Right? I want to know when Serated valves, meaning milled patterns on intake valve..which make swirl patterns as YOU want are okay too. can anyone say lifter bores done again and again..etc

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Jack their are people out their running "BAD" combos.....as hard as it is for you to belive most people pick a car that they like,luv,or just already have instead of going out look for a "combo " car. (not I but) so their you have people with "combos" that have been beaten to death for years (example 67,68 camaro with 327/275) (just an example not picking on anyone) & now don't stand a chance running for class against these "combo" cars. Thing is even with valve job & 3 speed I don't think they can run with the FI cars or the mopars! (just a fact) Then again You were @ INDY /U.S. nationals so I think this might be a way to help make tec easier........?

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Whats next - And for 2009 , they'll allow port matching.

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Wow, throw in the much overlooked sentence out of the rulebook"Runners and combustion chamber must retain OEM appearance" and it looks to me like I'm allowed a set of any steel valve with any angle, any custom made seat at any angle (taper?), any bowl job that I can fit under the seat and any port work that I want as long as it appears to be stock. Why don't they just start pouring heads and be done with all of this crap!

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Amen, Mr. Bill.

S/SS Combo, anyone? :rolleyes:

Maybe they'll have the rules finagled out before I get my butt up to PA and get the head off the Turismo. Sorry, got caught up with doing some post-PRI 'emergency' stuff for some folks... how about just before or just after New Year's?

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The way I read it, one of the stock valve seat angles must be retained, somewhere amongst the other angles.....;)

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Billy I agree! Just wonder how many "stock " heads out their wouldn't pour?

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Upon further review from the replay booth,I'm not so sure that this means you can do anything you want.

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Billy and Greg; If you contact Mr. Bachelder and ask "when are you guys gonna pour stocker heads?" The answer will be: some in 2008, all in 2009. I dont think it will be wise to get too carried away with the bowl hog or the "stock appearing" ports. We like the idea of a valve job that is not subject to interpretation but we are gonna be pretty careful from that point on. Others will do well to exercise caution it this area. We all know that many stocker heads wont pour, even at SS volumes.

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they have been pouring them for 2 years with no action
very few would pass on publishede ss specs

greg... watch your glass house...

1. you loved the nova. parked it for a BETTER combo
2. your valve job was in mix questioned at indy, which helped the new bull**** rule get pushed through
3. have you poured you head yourself ??

i still love you... but in reality the indexes are a sham, and the tech guys are not allowed to enforce rules

jack mccarthy

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It would also help if NHRA provides the proper and quality measuring equipment, with proper calibration, to the Tech Staff. That would stop a lot of the bitching and questioning during tech. As an example, you cannot use a plastic burrette in the field for tech!!! Get an electronic burrette with a digital readout...they are affordable and NHRA has the budget.

The same goes with dial indicators; it does not take much to disturb the clocking mechanism after they are dropped in the ground. Also, get some borescopes for internal inspections; if they are good for the FAA for inspecting a turbine engine, they should be good for inspecting an engine.

By the way Jack...a very realiable source that is trustworthy, told me that the last reading Travis did on Doug Patrick's controversial cylinder heads, were done with a different burrette and the heads were in the tech area and not taken away.

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Jack I know all about it! Thing is my **** went tru "the barn" & passed.......;)

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i was not invited to the barn...
i was not beat for class by any of the "re-instated" cars...

so i will simply tip my hat to travis for trying to do what he is paid to do...enforce the rulebook as printed for 2007 !!!

merry christmas to all

jack mccarthy

lets at least wait until the season starts to start the bull**** !!!!

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WOW and you guys think the .90 classes are crazy , we only have to buy full face helmets and diapers for 08 .

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I think a lot of Stocker guys will be needing to buy full face helmets soon too.Pretty soon,even P/SA cars will be 9.99 or quicker with all of these enhanced rules.

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The problem is the alter egos get crossed when a racer disputes tech staff members...do not get me wrong, I am not condoning when threats of lawsuits get in the way. With all due respect to Travis, he is one of the better ones, however, he does not know everything.