Front tire life?
 

How many runs should a pair of from tires last? I just wore out a set of Hoosiers in less than 100 runs. Last pair of Toyo’s lasted hundreds of runs.
Front end is tight, alignment is good, minimal toe change, car goes and brakes nice and straight.

Re: Front tire life?
 

Hi Georege, I basically had a set of Hoosiers for 5 years no issues, probably 250 runs

Re: Front tire life?
 

Good morning to al,
I have and used Moroso and Firestone front tires for years!
That said, l suspect if the front tires in question were manufactured in the last two maybe three years, I can only guess that maybe the amount of rubber on the tire is minimal amount to make to tires as light as possible in the last two years, also we have all witnessed the basic decline of quality and service of many of the products that we use. This could be another in a long line of quality issues that's going into the toilet.
Just my opinion from my little spot on Long Island.
Have a good day.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

Re: Front tire life?
 

I was never happy with the life of the Hoosier frontrunners, but 100 runs seems ridiculous.

I've been running the Moroso DS-2 for a while and got 4 seasons from my last set.

Re: Front tire life?
 

I've had very good luck with MT fronts. That being said not so much on the rears. Two sets in a row with cords showing at 70'ish runs. The MT rep said that's about normal.....Buh-Bye!! LOL!

Hoosier rears on both stockers and we get 150-200 passes on em. Wagon has Hoosier fronts with similar life.

Re: Front tire life?
 

Were those C06 or C07 Hoosiers?

Re: Front tire life?
 

I have a friend that is still running the same tires (Pro ET) that he has had on his Challenger Stocker since mid 90s. I think he is nuts to keep testing his luck but, they still look the same as they did in 95.

Re: Front tire life?
 

I'll have to look. Both cars are loaded in the trailer so I'll have to do some yoga. I want to say CO6 but I'm not positive.

Re: Front tire life?
 

I have a Bud who is the King of used tires. He had one set on his BBC Camaro S/P car that he was so proud of..."Look! 500 Runs!!" I just shake my head.:rolleyes:

Re: Front tire life?
 

Hoosier on my car. They are about 5 years old. Look like new. They only see the Sun at the races.

Re: Front tire life?
 

George I have found that Hoosiers on the front look great, but just aren't as long lived as say some others, I know you are not doing Scotty style man dumps every run with yours, so here is my experiences with the fleet:

Dragpak has the hoosiers 28's, I think they are very light, but compared to the Morroso's 7.10's I have on the dakota, the dart and the challenger, which are run till their bald, the hoosiers maybe have a thinner side wall? They are fine, but just don't have that hearty look. The Gremlin runs the small Moroso 24's D-2's and they will need to be replaced 6 or so seasons(but I may scrub a tenth at the 60 foot mark from time to time), rear slicks, hmm thats every 8 years or so. The Nova also has hoosier fronts, and I think they will last forever, I wonder if its a total front weight thing. Depending upon what rollout you need, you could try another brand. Pressure may be impacting your life as well, I run 40 in most everything. Eric

Re: Front tire life?
 

Thanks everyone for the replies. I was wondering what kind of tire life other racers are getting with the Hoosiers. I’m going to go with a set of MT’s and rotate them every 25 runs and see how they hold up.
Keep the replies coming!

Re: Front tire life?
 

For me, I run the 24-5/15 tires on my Super Pro/Street Firebird. I picked up a new set of front wheels with a deeper offset and that seemed to shorten the life a bit. Got 2 years out of my last set but I really like them. It's a pretty front heavy car as well.

The M/T's I run on the Skyhawk I'll get years out of before I need to buy new.

I know someone who ran M/T front runners for years, finally told me the pressure he was running them at....80 pounds....he couldn't believe how flabbergasted I was he didn't blow one out!!!

Re: Front tire life?
 

I put a new set of Hoosier 26" front tires on my car over the winter, the tread grooves are very shallow compared to the old style Moroso Drag Specials or M&H fronts that I was using earlier. Not sure how long the shallow Hoosiers will last, but really doubt they will get even close to the Morosos. I had the same set of Moroso 71.0 Drag Specials on my car for over 10 years, and they still had plenty of tread showing. The Morosos also held air better than any other tire that I have ever tried. The car could sit in the garage all winter, and lost less than 5 psi in 5 months. My previous MT and current Hoosiers would go flat in a couple of weeks. The only downside to the Moroso Drag Specials, is that they are only made in 3 sizes, with about 2 inches between each size. Never tried the Moroso DS2s.

Re: Front tire life?
 

buy a new set every spring run them the entire season leave them on over the off season so you can roll the car around and put the new tires on in the spring-- part of the cost of racing--if you are not doing 130 MPH brake jams they should last a while like anything else you abuse them they will wear out FAST--FED 387

Re: Front tire life?
 

Hey George, your thread got me thinking, I put on a new set of 28's in Jan of 2020 before I left Taxachusetts. Currently have 157 runs on them, one is just about done & the other isn't far behind. I'll shoot for 200, but probably sooner. I'm guilty of cornering too fast. lol.

Re: Front tire life?
 

So far, no one has mentioned that front end alignment is a big factor in tire wear. I can tell you that I regularly have race cars in my shop that make a significant scrapping noise when being pushed across the concrete floor which indicates they certainly are not in alignment. I also regularly see 'peeling' on front tires which is another indication of improper alignment. Lastly, lots of cars have bump steer issues which are causing premature wear. I wouldn't be so quick to blame the manufacturers. Quite honestly, I usually am changing front tires because of their age long before the tread wears down.

Re: Front tire life?
 

Is it the weight or the alignment that causes you guys to wear out tires so fast? Or I guess the two together? I have 261 passes on my fronts and don't look to be anywhere near worn out. I am really light but I do have a lot of caster in mine and 3/16" toe in.

Re: Front tire life?
 

I'm wondering about front tire "Age"
I parked my SS/ Gen 3 Camaro in 2010
The M/T's were bought in 2002
They are in the car and the car is on jack stands
in a "no window" race car shop that is climate controlled.
There is a set of Goodyear "26" in fronts that are stacked flat & on rims in the corner of the shop. They were bought new in 1998 and have never been used.
Neither set of tires are showing sidewall cracks or any distress.
Is a Race car tires life similar to trailer tire life?
Should I pitch them and start over or air them up and go...??

Re: Front tire life?
 

Adger that is a very good question. I’m sure the tire manufacturers would tell you their junk. I would think if they’re not dry rotted and held air ok they should be fine. I don’t think comparing them to a trailer tire is a fair comparison. Trailer tires are subject to all kinds of forces on the sidewalls.
I just receive my new MT 27.5’s. The tread depth is .090”-.100”, appears to be more than the Hoosiers, but I never have measured them.

Re: Front tire life?
 

George, Thanks for the thoughts
We have Red River Army Depot near my home in Texarkana.
They have THE tire and track rubber shop for all the us military.
They do the tire & track Maintenance for every tire and track vehicle our Govt owns.
One of my racing buddies has worked there quite a few years.
He tells me the Govt. has a 3 year limit on tires. They are replaced every three years no matter what. It doesn't matter if they were sitting in storage 3 years or on the battlefield 3 years.
Must be one of those DOT "one rule fits all" mandates or the tire industry lobby is real strong.
I'm probably going do like our Govt. and support the tire industry.

Re: Front tire life?
 

I bought a 1968 M101 trailer thru Gov auction a couple years ago, picked it up Fort Meade. it has 1968 dated tires on it. My fire dept has a 1993 duece and half we received from the govt in 2012, it had 1993 dated tires also.
I'm thinking the 3 year rule is not all the way across the board.

Re: Front tire life?
 

Adger,

I would pitch them!

Bill

Re: Front tire life?
 

Duane,
Could be right about not done across the board.
The trailer could have been sitting in surplus for years and years.
Check out the auctions for Tires on govt. Liquidation.
Wish I could sell some expensive toilet seats to them..lol
At RRAD they have acres and acres of vehicles just sitting in surplus.
There is contract rebuilder across the street from my shop. It is interesting to see what goes in and out of there.
In 1987 I bought a crank grinder that had been declared surplus and come off a ship in1963. Back then it was DLA. & I believe the Clintons have a hand in Govt. Liquidation. I'm set up with them and buy once fired brass.
I stock 762/308, 9MM & 300 Win Mag

Thought: 3 year rule props up tire Manufacturers with Govt contracts??
Thanks for the input. I'm not going to chance it...New tires for my comeback year next year.

Re: Front tire life?
 

Tire manufactures recommend that tires be removed from service after 10 years and they consider a 3 to 6 year life expediency of tires to be normal.
A vehicle in combat or combat support must be expected to hold to that minimum life span rule, this is not an area to be frugal!

Re: Front tire life?
 

Rubber has a shelf life, if you get a vibration the first thing I would change is the tires.

Re: Front tire life?
 

I wouldn't wait for a vibration. For me, it isn't about the price of a set of tires, it is about the value of the car and of my life. I hate buying new seat belts every two years, but I don't mind new tires at 4-5 years for the car and the trailer.