History of MPR's personal 86 Mustang SS/F Car
 

I was over at my buddy's house persusing thru some old Mustang and Fast Ford mags and found a article on a brand new 86 Mustang that Mike Pustlney built for himself back in 86. The car was immaculate for the day, hell it looks as good as anything I have seen in Super Stock now. This was a pre GT class car running 324HP 351 Cleveland with a 5 speed Doug Nash Trans that ran 9.90's in SS/G and 10.0's in F. Does anyone have any photos of this car or has anyone ever seen it in competition? I wonder if someone has the car, it was a real nice looking peice.

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Smitty,
Do you remember which magazine, year and month? I'd like to see that article. By the way, did you ever get a copy of the NHRA today show with Vince Holmes' shop that you were looking for?
Bob Rice

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Bob,

I never have recevied a copy of that and would love to have one if you could produce it or know where I could get it. As for the article on the MPR Mustang, the next time I am over at my friends I will borrow it and make copies and try to email them to you. It was a very good issue, as it featured the Indy race and the Fords were Kicking *** in class in Stock that year. My friend John Douglas here in Florida won class in H/S that year with his 72 Mustang.

Smitty

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Article in Super ford, written by Neil Van Oppre, I have it, if you cannot post let me know, I will dig it up, this car is currently a bracket car in western michigan, this was a ford pilot production car, probably 1985, converted to a Saleen, top notch car even by todays standards,

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Correction Fast fords and mustangs Magazine

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Wow,

Someone has a really nice bracket car, that was a damn nice peice. It was actually a 1986 GT with a sunroff, beautiful sky blue car with the Cragar Super Slot Wheels on it.

Smitty

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Someone please inform me on how the SS cars were classified before GT, It seems this car raced in SS/F with a cleveland motor in a Late model mustang?

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In the beginning of GT cars they were only for auto's. If you see any of the pictures of the original GT cars they were classifed as SS/GTA, SS/GTB, etc. The sticks ran with the traditional cars. Larry Prichett, Mike Thomas, Mike Pustelny, & others dominated. Eventually NHRA came to there senses and made GT stick classes.

That is why when Mr. Butler & others bring up conslidating SS cars with Gt cars people protest so much. It was already tried and the newer GT style cars killed the traditional combos!

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Just Observing is correct.

GT class in started in 1984. The cars were automatic only. SS/GTA 9.00 to SS/GTH 12.50 or more. 1985 saw SS/GTA move to 8.00 through SS/GTL 13.50 or more, still automatic only. In 1986-87, manual transmission GT cars were allowed but they competed in regular S/S classes E through J. 1988-89 saw GT manual transmission cars expand running in regular S/S classes E through M. Finally in 1990 the manual transmission GT cars were given their own classes.

Mike Pustelney's Mustang was raced as a 1988 Saleen in SS/F. And it ran great. I got to measure the engine a lot during Mike's many trips to the teardown barn.


Travis

(Disclaimer: This info came from my collection of NHRA rulebooks. Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

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MPR's work is second to none and more important is mike's advice on what parts to use and what works and does not work...happy new year to mike & kathleen...luke awdish

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Smitty,
I found the VHS tape with that show on it. I will try to get you a copy made.
Bob Rice

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Bob,

Thanks alot, I will gladly pay you for your trouble and the tape. I will pm you my info later today.

Smitty

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My Mustang appeared in several magazine articles in the couple of years it was raced. I saw it at Martin, MI a few years back with a bracket motor in it. The Mustang was built from a new 1984 LX pilot car obtained by my racing partner at the time and friend George Wright. It was built just like the GT cars we are building today except the frame rails were 2x3 rectangular and now all the Super Stockers are round tube. The Mustang kinda got me started in the chassis building business and was really a fun car to build and race! We won a bunch of awards at the Cobo Hall Autorama in Detroit and then went to Gainsville for its debut. Travis, we went to the barn way too many times!

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Motyka's are hard core Ford guys and race a lot of NMRA.
Here it is last year. Very pretty car.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/...db6992d6_o.jpg

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Great thread here, I missed that period of National event racing. That must have been a wild bunch of Detroit natives on the loose! Mike.... did anyone get some video of that car in the day? What year did you guys quit running that piece? Was that car at Indy in 1989 or 1990? A friend of mine decided to get hitched in the 1989 Indy weekend! No one should have scheduled anything on that weekend, ever.!!!

It was a great period from the late 70's thru the 90's. I think it will probably go down as the all time best period of class racing. I went to Indy in 1990 and taped all of the class runoffs. Those were some good days. I think Indy 1990 had 245 entries in SS. Now that was a tough field.

see ya

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Very good looking car, the article I have shows the car actually built as a GT not a Saleen. I guess a few years down the road the favorable hood clearance won out over the flat hood. My friends in North Carolina built a similar peice around that time also, the drver was Melvin Revels and they ran the 285/324 HP cmbo in SS/F also. I will see if I can get some pics of their car scanned and post it. It was and still is a decent car but not built as nice as Mikes.

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Here is picture of my friends former SS/F AND SS/GTB Mustang. The car had Lafayette Ford on the side before the painted over it and before when it was mostly white it had Kreative Kustoms on the door when it
ran in SS/F.
Can someone tell me how to upload a photo to my message or I can just send it to them to post.

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anyway of finding out if this car is for sale or not??

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Hey Smitty,

How are the Revels doing? I haven't seen them in a long time. Great people!

I will also look for the tape on Vince. My old camaro was on there next to Steve Evans (no relation -lol) so a buddy got me a copy.

Doyle Evans

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They are doing pretty good, their dad passed away about 3 or 4 years ago however. They kind of fell out of class racing when he got sick. I talk with Melvin often, he is bracket racing their old car with his son driving.
As for that NHRA today piece, I don't know where I was that day when it was on but I missed it. Vince's shop was only about 10-15 miles from where I gre up and I actually bought house near where the shop is, only about 2 miles from it now but no one has been in it since his son went to jail. Lot of history and memries in that place over there. From the times I had the chance to meet Vince he seemed like a real cool guy.
How are you guys doing with the Vette?

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Don, Any chance you will bring your car back in SS/L we need more participants to say the least.

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what about the GT/A Mustang of Lloyd Bray & D.G? Was it the first GT/A Mustang? Lloyd told me once who built it but I forgot. Supposed to be a very nice ride also.
Last I heard Lloyd was in a VA nursing home. Anybody have an update? I have to say when he goes he will be truely missed. Lloyd is the definition of a racer in it's truest form!
And DG's a heckuva good guy also...!

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Don,
I think 1989 was the last Indy I went to with the old Mustang. I do have some old video but I haven't watched it for years and I don't know if they are any good now. The hood on the car now is not a stock Saleen hood and we didn't convert the car to a Saleen for hood clearance. I first ran the car as an 85 and in 87 the front facia, bumper cover, tail lights and rear bumper cover changed so we updated the car. After running it at only a race or two we converted it to a Saleen mainly because we liked the way the Saleen looked better than the LX. Too bad about Loyd Bray, we raced a few times back then. I think Ron Goodell built Loyds Mustang and Loyd and D.G. ran a Cobra Jet.

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D.G. Gilliam is still racing the car. We spoked to him a couple of months ago about his car, and he wasnt interested in selling at that time. I didnt know Lloyd Bray was in a nursing home. Its still a very good looking car





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Hello Mr Johnson
I saw this thread and thought of the saleen we had in the late 80's and early ninety's. I only have a few pics but 50 pounds heavy for GT/B that car went 9.38 @146 what would one of those cars go now.. With an up to date chassis and all of the lightweight stuff. I can remember several times at union hill dialing the car at 5.82 in the 1/8. When we ran that we were using a G Force that you had to clutch on the gear changes we did not even have a jerico at that time and now the guys are getting to use the fiberglass cowl hoods. Vic Kroll has the car and was going to sell it if you know anyone. I think it still has the same paint job on it.

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Mike,

I still enjoy looking at pics I took of your 70 Mustang. You gave me a lot of good info regarding the Cleveland motors. It was used wisely.

Thank you for the history and the memories.

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Smitty,
Here's a link to a picture of the Revel's Mustang taken at the points meet at Coastal Plains in 89.
Bob Rice
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/View...070&p=66536002

CycloneFE,
I have one picture of Mike's 70 Mustang taken at Suffolk. Here's a link to the pic. Would love to see what pics you have.
Bob Rice
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/View...070&p=66535928

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Smitty,

I finally started on going through the vette. It's in a paint booth getting one of those paint jobs that was discussed on here earlier.

If you see Melvin, let him know I was asking about him.

Also, has anyone heard from Big R? His son (I think) was a very good running back at App. State.

How long before you get back to NC?

Doyle

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Doyle,

I haven't seen Big R in a longtime, last I heard he had all of his stuff for sale. I will be sure to pass on to Melvin thaat you asked about him. I am trying to get him to run his car in Div 9 some or at least at the Combos up in Roxboro and Peidmont.
I got another 2 years here in Florida before I move somewhere again.

Smitty

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Bob,

I have a picture of the car in this paint scheme at Indy but I don't know how to post it, could I email it to you and you post it. That car really ran well back then, on kill it would run 5.80's in the eigth mile and that was wuth an ancient Doug Nash. It was one of the quicker cars for awhile before they got out of racing.

Here is a task for you, in my avitar is a picture of the car I own, a 71 Mustang. I bought this car the Revels a few years back and they bought it from some black guys out of Georgia. If I am not mistaken Joe Hartley from South Carolina owned it before the guys from Ga. and Mike Saye drove it in SS/I. Do you think you might be able to find some old photos of it?

Smitty

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Bob,

I have one word for your photo collection: AWESOME!! A true blast from the past.

Smitty

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Mike
To bad I didn't get more video of the 80s action. Have you bought the DVD of the early sportsnationals? I think I need to see that. I really miss the early modified stuff. For my entertainment, there is nothing better than the old stick shift, modified type cars. There is something about hearing the little revving motors, zing even higher, when they clutch'em on gear changes! If the audio is good on that DVD I will be in heaven.

Are you guys going to make any NHRA events this year. Its been boring without you guys at the nationals!

Mark, my old car is now owned by Dan Schlieker, from the Louisville Ky. area. Its kind of bad to see so few L cars anywhere lately. The stupid HP system hasn't helped out the 283 in K and L anyway. Where has Everett Hill's Mustang been lately? I didn't think SS racing was worth the pain anymore, for me anyway. At least I got to race in the days when it was still good.

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Don
Everett has been painting mustang and updating it should be back in mid april.
We miss you running for class.

RED:)

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Don,
There is an excellent video on You Tube of Robin Brown and what looks to be your old car that was taken at Bowling Green.
Bob Rice

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Smitty,
Thanks for the kind words. There are so many other cars that I remember seeing that I didn't take pictures of that make me want to kick myself. There is a picture of Hartley's car with Saye driving in my photo album. Also, send your pic to me at bobrice@embarqmail.com
Bob Rice

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Link to two pictures of Melvin Revel's Mustang provided by Terrance "Smitty" Smith.
Bob Rice
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/Albu...659&a=32629789

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Bob,

Sorry for my late reply, things crazy at home here. Tomorrow I will PM you. I do not have a web site for my pics, but I can send them to you and you are welcome to post them on your wonderful site. I have been through almost all of it.
Mine are from several Indy points meets and I have some from the Sportsnationals in Bowling Green in the late 70's or early 80's. I can't quite remember the year, but I remember the races and the cars.

Steve

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Don,
I think I'll go to 4 or 5 races in 2008, about like I did in 07 (3 points meets and the Sports in Columbus). I'm going to look at the old videos I have and see if we can put them onto a DVD. I did find a few good photos of my 70 Mustang and a few of the blue car too. I have a good photo of Loyd Brays Mustang in SS/F and George Wrights Mustang in SS/E as well as my car in SS/F & SS/G. I think Super Stock was a bit more fun 20 years ago and it certainly cost a lot less to be competitive back then.

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Hello Mike,
I heard you have a Roush Mustang at your shop, what's the story with it.

Thanks and see you at the races,
Wayne.

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We are building the Roush Mustang for Super Stock for a customer. I may post a few construction photos on my website in a few weeks.