New flywheel rule
Has NHRA come with a defined breakdown of the rule on flywheels (flexplates) other than all v8 stock and superstock.
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I sure hope they will exempt my lo comp 340 combo, no starter gear ring at all. thanks Glen H
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Hi Glen! NHRA's concern with these flexplates involves the starter ring gear flying apart. Now in the real world where people understand and realize what they're talking about and making rules for, if I need an SFI approved flexplate to ensure that my starter ring gear isn't going to break off and hurt a spectator then you and any other Mopar SHOULD have an SFI approved torque converter!
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Talked to R. Silvy in NHRA tech dept. he said the stock/superstock commitee made the rule for flywheel(ring gear) . He said nothing he can do about it.I can submit a Email to him and he would pass it on .Also by rule book , superstreet is not required to have 29.1 flexplate. That is a 10.90 class. He would not give me any other people to talk to. Not a good system.
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Common sense would dictate that a "safety" ruling such as this would be based on E.T., not Class. |
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My point also. What are mopar guys going to do ,the ring gear is part of torque coverter, and I can't find a sfi 29.1 torque converter.
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Mopars don’t rev high enough to break off the starter ring gear!
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The rule is a Knee Jerk responce to a 1 in a million accident designed to protect them from law suits in the future,. My opinion Rick
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This kinda reminds me of the time Woodro ran into lake in Florida. Surprised they didn't require floatation devise on all.
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Has happened more times then people know, it just finally got seen on TV this year. and it wasn't a super high HP deal. I get around 3-5 calls a year telling me they found part of thier ring gear missing off a welded on ring gear and most of the time it is a SFI flexplate.
You can get a SFI mopar flexplate for $60, But I agree flexplates without ring gears should be excluded. |
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I'm checking now to see what is available for my application, that is made in the USA. I refuse to buy Chinese or other imported junk.
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1984, 305 Chevy with 2 pc RM seal, and 153 teeth. Having a difficult finding something that says made in USA.
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John, have you tried ATI? I recently got one from them and it seems like a very nice piece.
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I got a very nice piece from JW performance this year. And they pay contingency!!
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My question is how they are going to enforce this ruling. I would think a GM application would be the easiest to check due to the bottom of the flywheel being in open air. However, some Ford, and I believe all Mopars have a fully enclosed bellhousing. So at the first division races next year are there going to be random checks? Jack it up in the air if you have a GM, and take your starter out if you have a Mopar or Ford to see the sticker? Personally, I'd put more trust in my way out of date Pioneer flexplate that was made in the USA than a new one made from chinesium. I have heard mixed reviews on ATI flexplates with regards to torque converter fitment.
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Meziere FP301 (billet, no welded on ring gear) ATI 915539 JW 93006 All internal balance |
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TCI not made in USA?
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Just Curious? -----------Does anyone know if these will have to be replaced every 3 years ???
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If it’s mandatory to have then it will be |
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NHRA needs to breakdown and clarify this rule.
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TCI SFI approved billet one piece flexplates IE 399870LW and the adapter flexplates like Ford or Mopar to GM Trans IE 149182 are made in the USA. The stamped steel flexplates IE 399273 are made in Mexico. The TCI flexplates can be ReCertified after inspection. |
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Made in the USA billet flexplates fail too.
3 year old Mexiere https://i.imgur.com/C6P92uWm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YkXwpmSm.jpg |
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Ed, just out of curiosity how big was the engine that this flexplate was bolted to? HP? RPM??
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648/1300HP, 7600rpm for the past 2 years, 622/1100HP, 7600rpm for year 1
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Right now, my 301/280HP, 6000rpm engine requires the same flexplate as your engine. I'm just hoping that by putting it in print somebody at the top will see how ridiculous this rule change is. |
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Billy, no one has to buy a meziere billet flex plate, it's a choice, before I did, I ran ATI flexplates since the mid 80s but the answer can't be that your 40, 50, 60 y/o flexplate is still good or the cheap chinese knockoff is acceptable for race cars no matter how slow, how little HP your engine makes.
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JW Performance was great to deal with. I have a Meziere in my bracket car. JW called me back first. I would recommend either one.
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well I'm not looking for mine to be the first. It will be replaced before the start of the 2024 season.
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