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Mike Volkman 12-01-2023 04:17 PM

Clarification Needed - Pro Invitation Race in Florida
 
I understand that this race for stock and super stock is a 32 car field each, no qualifying sheet, chip draw and no possibilty for a heads up. Any accurate information out there to verify or refute this? Seems to be a high dollar bracket race which causes me to wonder why stock and super stock.

Byron Worner 12-01-2023 06:12 PM

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So you’d rather race for $1000 with all the “class” parameters??? I’d race backwards for 30K!

Mike Volkman 12-01-2023 07:59 PM

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Before the rest of you jump on this, the question was neutral. I wasn't asking what you would or would not do, i was asking if all the rumors I heard were valid and could anyone verify or refute.

Byron Worner 12-02-2023 11:19 AM

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I’ve heard that what you mentioned is the way the race will be. Of course nothing is official until the details are released.

Jeff Niceswanger 12-02-2023 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron Worner (Post 689546)
I’ve heard that what you mentioned is the way the race will be. Of course nothing is official until the details are released.

Oh bummer, If that is truly the case Byron, its a real step down from Bohannan's races.He has killer Class races with big payouts. What's being describing is bracket race with class cars.One thing that is unique, I don't remember seeing invitation only bracket races. Certainly not up to the hype... but let's see what happens,

B Parker 12-06-2023 01:42 AM

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I say let them get the race run for this year in the format they plan to run it. I hope it's real successful. And they will want to do more. Any tweaking can get done at the next one. Like to see whoever is in charge of promoting this race start to really get doing it publicly. It will be here before we know it. And I'm sure there are other sponsors that would love to get involved if they have enough time too and notice to whom to get in touch with. Can't wait to see the list of the sportsman drivers. Surprised it's not out.
That had to be a tough job to come up with the criteria to include what drivers that will be invited. I'd like to sign up now for the live feed but want to make sure they do a good job on the sportsman side of the show. In my opinion a race like this has been long overdue. It's nice to show other Sanctioning bodies they too could give a big burst of money to the Pros and the Sportsman categories If you can have million-dollar bracket shows, for several years I have to ask how come this took so long. A big thank you to all that have lead the way, and to any Sponsor for getting involved. BP

DanielB 12-06-2023 06:08 AM

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Please, PLEASE don't jump all over me...it's " invite only" correct?
Which means what, they don't have to pay for their spot in the field?
Will there be an entry fee?
What will it be?
Haven't seen this mentioned.
Thanks, Dan

Hagen Gary 12-06-2023 09:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron Worner (Post 689517)
So you’d rather race for $1000 with all the “class” parameters??? I’d race backwards for 30K!

Maybe you should consider selling all that high dollar drivetrain and come do some big money brackets. You’d likely be just as successful in that arena. Them big Wally’s are nice to look at, but why not get you some big checks that you can actually do something with?

Dave Gantz 12-06-2023 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 689720)
That had to be a tough job to come up with the criteria to include what drivers that will be invited. BP

If indeed they are looking for pure drivers, and not considering how far under a driver's car can run, that may be why there won't be any heads up.

BRETV 12-06-2023 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 689744)
If indeed they are looking for pure drivers, and not considering how far under a driver's car can run, that may be why there won't be any heads up.

That's not Stock/Superstock. It's bracket racing. Why race Stock/Superstock cars then? Asking for a friend.



Bret Velde
2003 I/SA

Dave Gantz 12-06-2023 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRETV (Post 689753)
That's not Stock/Superstock. It's bracket racing. Why race Stock/Superstock cars then? Asking for a friend.



Bret Velde
2003 I/SA

I agree, it’s not Stock Super Stock. I was just trying to think what the organizers are doing.

Jeff Niceswanger 12-06-2023 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 689761)
I agree, it’s not Stock Super Stock. I was just trying to think what the organizers are doing.

Sounds to me, like they want filler for their program but dont want to pissss around with the rule structurer or the time it takes to follow them. Still a great deal, but it's not a Class race. It's a bracket race with class cars.

lynn engels 12-06-2023 09:06 PM

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i sure wish you guys could get over yourselfs as long as you use shoe polish your bracket racers too, lynn engels 507 a/s , 507 ss/h and 5757 i/a glorified bracket car.

Jeff Niceswanger 12-06-2023 10:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lynn engels (Post 689765)
i sure wish you guys could get over yourselfs as long as you use shoe polish your bracket racers too, lynn engels 507 a/s , 507 ss/h and 5757 i/a glorified bracket car.

Glorified huh ? When you spend every dime you have on a purpose built car, and then pull up beside someone you should have covered by 3 tenths but instead have to shoe polish race them, it tends to get under your craw. I've had that happen a couple times. Yes,we believe shoe polish is a necessity. But I for one am hoping trends aren't getting started that is going to quickly send the sport downhill. Next thing will be Full Time 1/8 mile races at 1/4 mile tracks like the bracket racer's do. And they LOVE it. You gonna love that too?

lynn engels 12-06-2023 11:23 PM

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i called my comp car a glorified bracket car and i spend as much money as anybody on my class cars to be the fastest they can be but in the end there still bracket cars and yes i like eighth mile, lynn engels

SS/GSI 12-06-2023 11:40 PM

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Hats off to Bo & Co. Thank you.

Race sounds great for those invited and accept. Good luck to all those participating.

***If you were not invited, no need to comment. If you were invited and are declining to go...again, no need to comment.

NOTE: If you haven't been invited or contacted, you probably wont be...

We should just be happy that there are people out there willing to put their time, effort and money into having races for stock and super stock competitors. Bo's race, Bo's rules. You don't like the rules, platform, or any other processes that are involved...than make your own race, rules and see how it goes!

Mike Volkman 12-07-2023 12:09 PM

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Well, the post once again is getting amusing. Frankly, i am confused (no side comments regarding my state of mind).

Why build a "class" car - and not have a hope of winning a class heads up? Who cares about someone going fast at this race? Doesn't count and no validation.

Reminder that we have joined a heads up class. I get the enviroment that we're in. Because of rule changes, additional classes (by NHRA and racers pushing their own agenda and need for protection from fast cars in their class), diminishing car counts etc which all lead to reduced opportunities and degredation for heads up. Why help it along? No qualifying? No chance to land a heads up? How about we eliminate 1/2 of all NHRA stock and ss classes and .5 difference in weight breaks where possible.

Comp is different isnt it? Fast guy wins. Maybe SS and Stock should go back to running off of national records? I don't know.

Maybe it's time to start a new class and call it something like ss b(for brackets - no heads up)?

Gaf - of all people who supports class racing - need i remind you how hyped up you get over class.

I'm going to need to talk to the boss and see if we should continue supporting Top Qualifier in D2. From reading the board i get the feeling like "who cares".

Volkman
412.651.2356

rognelson777 12-07-2023 12:53 PM

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Make Class racing great again proposal. fastest 4 Cars for each class, say A thru D stock, 4 from A thru D stock automatic 4 cars from A thru D super stock and 4 cars from A thru D automatic super stock. 32 cars total. Each class races off heads up until you get to 8 cars left, then handicapped off class index (alternate handicap based on fastest run in each class)

I would love to see 24 heads up races (16 1st round 8 second round) with the fastest invite cars.

Marty Rinehart Jr 12-10-2023 07:50 PM

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I sure hope I get invited!

Don Kennedy 12-10-2023 07:54 PM

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I think that the rules that we run under now ,and the people who are invited to the race have to be 70 years or older ,Just asking for a friend :D:p:cool:

Larry Hill 12-11-2023 09:36 AM

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I’ve checked my mail box everyday and no invitation but my fingers are crossed. It will be a race worth watching. The best result of the race will be its success.

GUMP 12-11-2023 09:49 AM

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Guys, if YOU get the invite, YOU can say NO THANKS.....

(Mike, those number 1 qualifying hats are very much appreciated here. Thanks!)

Bobby Fazio 12-11-2023 10:52 AM

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We can forever debate which rules and who gets invited. It has made for good podcast content the last couple weeks. Whoever gets invited, loosen those front ends and give 'em a show! I'll be there with a camera and a mic so don't be shy.

Dave Ficacci 12-11-2023 11:01 AM

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It's a good thing Dave Ley didn't listen to some of the opinions here as he put on the largest, most successful and longest tenured S/SS series in the country with "no qualifying sheet, chip draw and no possibility for a heads up."

Brett C 12-20-2023 08:40 PM

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No one talking about invites here?

Larry Hill 12-21-2023 10:12 AM

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For all of us want to be’s, what racers are on the entry list?

Brett C 12-21-2023 05:32 PM

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I'm in!

tstickff 12-26-2023 02:28 PM

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Wow this must be the best kept secret in drag racing! Maybe NHRA is going to do a big announcement on the entry list! Kinda like the Leah and Tony story!!! Can’t find the invites anywhere, as of now I only know of 2 people invited….the suspense is just killing me

Tim Stickles

TOSTO RACING 12-26-2023 07:08 PM

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Sounds fun!!

doglover44 01-12-2024 05:11 AM

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How does somebody get a invite to this ?

GUMP 01-12-2024 08:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 691522)
How does somebody get a invite to this ?

By email.

e vassar 01-12-2024 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 689990)
I think that the rules that we run under now ,and the people who are invited to the race have to be 70 years or older ,Just asking for a friend :D:p:cool:

Damnit! Im tired of being too young for all the fun ***** around here!

Jason Shepard 01-21-2024 11:58 AM

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Does anyone know who is going in S/SS?

Mike Pearson 01-21-2024 12:17 PM

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I have seen a few of who will be there. It’s been a hush deal and I don’t think a list was ever distributed. All hitters for sure.

Ron Ortiz 01-21-2024 01:50 PM

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Pro Star Shootout

Thursday 1:30 & 7:00 Stock, Super Stock, Top Sportsman Q1 Q2

Friday 9:30 & 1:00. Stock, and Super Stock. Q3 Q4
7:30 pm. Round 1 Stk and SS

Saturday. 12:45 Round 2. Stk & SS
3:00. Round 3. Stk & SS
4:45. Round 4. Stk & SS
6:00 Final. Stk & SS
7:00. Concert
All fill in times are for T/F. FC. PS. T/S

T/F $250,000. FC $250,000. P/S $125,000.
T/S $50,000. Stock $30,000. Super Stock $30,000

And some of you want to complain.

doglover44 01-21-2024 03:43 PM

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Cant wait to see who wins this is big S/SS money !

Bobby Fazio 01-21-2024 09:23 PM

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Who do you think is announcing Stock & Super Stock? Hopefully someone who knows the classes, the cars, and can educate/promote it to the spectators.

Rob Petrie E395 01-21-2024 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio (Post 691971)
Who do you think is announcing Stock & Super Stock? Hopefully someone who knows the classes, the cars, and can educate/promote it to the spectators.

You got my vote (assuming you didn’t get an invite). Alan Reinhart would be good too. He is always entertaining and knowledgeable. And that guy that did the Race at Belle Rose early last year was good too (Sorry I don’t remember his name)


Anybody know (sorry if I missed it) is this going to broadcasted anywhere for those that can’t travel down there to see it in person.

Bobby Fazio 01-21-2024 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Petrie E395 (Post 691975)
You got my vote (assuming you didn’t get an invite). Alan Reinhart would be good too. He is always entertaining and knowledgeable. And that guy that did the Race at Belle Rose early last year was good too (Sorry I don’t remember his name)


Anybody know (sorry if I missed it) is this going to broadcasted anywhere for those that can’t travel down there to see it in person.

It will be streamed on FLO Racing. Courtney Enders program? I would love to see Alan Reinhart, Brian Lohnes, Joe Castello, Bob Frey, Lewis Bloom. I will definitely do it if they need someone but I want to be in the lanes with my camera and mic.

MR DERBY CITY 01-21-2024 11:59 PM

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You guys need to realize something. This in NOT an NHRA race AND I am sure the suits in Glendora are not real HAPPY that the PRO’s AND sportsman are running for $$ that makes the NHRA purse look like pocket change. :):)


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