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JP1738 01-22-2024 11:39 AM

Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Sorry everyone, if you've been following along in other threads you'll know that I am new to STK. Gotta ask a dumb question. Are you allowed to put a strip catcher on a stocker? I wouldn't mind having an extra foot (or two) before I trip the finish line with the tires. I've never seen a stocker with a stripe catcher but I didn't see anything in the rulebook forbidding one. Please advise.

J.R. Haddad 01-22-2024 12:06 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Although I'm not sure that Stripe Catchers/Pecker Extenders belong in
the same category, a Stripe Catcher is NOT legal in NHRA Stock Eliminator.
Also, keep in mind that if the Stripe Catcher trips the finish line light before
the front tires, the car has in fact ran a faster Elapsed Time than it would
have with the front tires tripping the beam. This would call for a different
dial, and changes your variables on the run. Although I like that your looking
for every advantage for your new Stocker, this might not be the place to
look, for now.

J.R.

Eman 01-22-2024 12:23 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Don't know about the legality of it but you have to be sure it takes the stripe on acceleration the same as on the brakes. If it takes the stripe on the brakes but not under full throttle you will be defeating yourself.

Mike Pearson 01-22-2024 12:32 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
You are not allowed body modifications in stock of super stock

MR DERBY CITY 01-22-2024 12:41 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
There is a reason you have never seen one in Stock eliminator ..:):)

JP1738 01-22-2024 12:57 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 692005)
You are not allowed body modifications in stock of super stock

I saw where it says this in the rule book, but I wasn't sure if it was considered a body modification. Fair enough.

JP1738 01-22-2024 01:00 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman (Post 692004)
Don't know about the legality of it but you have to be sure it takes the stripe on acceleration the same as on the brakes. If it takes the stripe on the brakes but not under full throttle you will be defeating yourself.

The idea would be to have it in a position where regardless of if the car is accelerating or decelerating, the catcher would help trip it the same way each time. Under acceleration, the car trips it with the catcher and deceleration it would take the stripe with the bumper, and I'd line both up so that would be the case. As it turns out, the car will actually be faster driving it 1300 feet instead of 1320, what a concept lol.

JP1738 01-22-2024 01:02 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 692002)
Although I'm not sure that Stripe Catchers/Pecker Extenders belong in
the same category
, a Stripe Catcher is NOT legal in NHRA Stock Eliminator.

J.R.

You're probably right, I just think that term is hilarious and wanted to include it in the thread title XD

Doug Hoven 01-22-2024 01:15 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
If you want to run a stripe catcher in Stock Eliminator, just build a 4th gen F-body. I've heard many stories Lt1/Ls1 firebirds winning and losing races due to the "beak" catching the nose under hard braking.

1320racer 01-22-2024 01:16 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 692000)
Gotta ask a dumb question.

You are correct, a dumb question! Clearly you haven't read the Rulebook yet you claim you're building a stocker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 691991)
0 years, but I just built my first stocker. It's a rusty 4th generation MalibuI bought the car rolling and put a bone stock small block together for it that should be legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 691834)
I do not bring the tools, parts, or expertise to get torn down and race the next day. If I ever get protested or torn down, I'm just going home. I understand it's part of the class, but I genuinely want to avoid it altogether.

My $ says you never make one pass in NHRA competition with a stock eliminator car that you build.

MR DERBY CITY 01-22-2024 01:23 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692014)
You are correct, a dumb question! Clearly you haven't read the Rulebook yet you claim you're building a stocker. My $ says you never make one pass in a stock eliminator car that you build.

Welcome to the forum JP….I see that you have now met our resident GENIUS, 1320 E.D…..He has NEVER made one pass in Stock Eliminator BUT knows absolutely everything about it ….:)

1320racer 01-22-2024 01:33 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
you talk like making a pass in stock eliminator is some huge accomplishment, it's not! I've been offered rides to compete in stock and super stock over the years. Going backwards at this point in my racing program, running in the 10s or even high 9s is of little interest to me not when my Chevelle ran in the 9s, 17 years ago and my firebird has been running in the 8s for the past 15 years!:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 692013)
If you want to run a stripe catcher in Stock Eliminator, just build a 4th gen F-body. I've heard many stories Lt1/Ls1 firebirds winning and losing races due to the "beak" catching the nose under hard braking.

because they don't have their ride height and /or suspension setup correctly. I don't have a strip taker and NEVER in thousands of passes have ever tripped the beams with the nose when braking hard.

J.R. Haddad 01-22-2024 02:02 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Ed, Ed, Ed. Even after a nice weekend with no racing, so that we would
all gets lots of sleep, your still acting sleep depraved. I think where the
problem lies in people bashing you, is strictly a lack of communication.
Most of the people on this forum, and a very nice group it is, are anywhere
from Racer Mechanics, ie- can do light jobs, wiring, plumbing, tear down,
etc. Some go all the way up to Fabricators, chassis builders, and beyond.
Then we have Ed. Royal Certified, Gold Star, If not Platinum, Racer Certified, All Star, World Class, Mensa Member. It is hardly fair to most of
us who bring a mere kitchen knife to a gunfight. Please go easier on us
mortals as we attempt to catch up with your wonderfulness.

J.R.

Mark Ugrich 01-22-2024 02:33 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 692015)
Welcome to the forum JP….I see that you have now met our resident GENIUS, 1320 E.D…..He has NEVER made one pass in Stock Eliminator BUT knows absolutely everything about it ….:)

He does seem to know a lot about pecker extenders though…..

1320racer 01-22-2024 02:55 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
J.R.

I had a great weekend, slept well, thank you for your concern.

That said, I'm just a dumb construction guy that has been bracket and more recently class racing for over 3 decades. I've got no issue with anyone on this forum but I will continue to post my opinion just as anyone else, where and when I see fit.

J.R. Haddad 01-22-2024 03:18 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Ed, I have absolutely no doubt about that. Just remember what a wise man once said. " What part of the truth and the facts don't you like!!"

J.R.

MR DERBY CITY 01-22-2024 03:48 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Ugrich (Post 692021)
He does seem to know a lot about pecker extenders though…..

Where is the TRIPLE like button when you need it ????

JP1738 01-22-2024 03:57 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692014)
You are correct, a dumb question! Clearly you haven't read the Rulebook yet you claim you're building a stocker.

My $ says you never make one pass in NHRA competition with a stock eliminator car that you build.

It won't be for lack of trying.

1320racer 01-22-2024 04:09 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
well if you don't it will be for lack of trying.

tommy d 01-22-2024 04:27 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
I can hear Marty Barratt saying. Did it come with a stripe catcher?

Frank Castros 01-22-2024 04:39 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692024)
I've got no issue with anyone on this forum but I will continue to post my opinion just as anyone else, where and when I see fit.

Ed,
You make reading this forum an absolute misery for me and I'm quite sure many others.
Frank

PS; I do like your Firebird.

1320racer 01-22-2024 04:44 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Well Frank, I post my opinion just like everyone else, if you don’t like it, you don’t need to reply to it. Further, if you don’t want to see it, put me on your ignore list, problem solved for you.

Mike Pearson 01-22-2024 04:45 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 692035)
Ed,
You make reading this forum an absolute misery for me and I'm quite sure many others.
Frank

PS; I do like your Firebird.

I actually get a kick out of reading 1320 racers posts and response. He is a bit gruff and condescending at times. He can be entertaining. He has a different outlook on racing and the way we race. He is dedicated to the sport and the way he races. His son has talent and is a hitter. He is proud of his car and rightfully should be. His recent rebuild is extremely nice.

1320racer 01-22-2024 04:59 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Mike, thanks for stating the truth.

Coleydog 01-22-2024 09:15 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Well I know a ‘famous’ track owner on the east coast who used that ploy a lot (69 Camero) dropped it right at the line when opposite racer was dogging. Dude ‘thought’ he had a 1/2 wheel on him but the stock spoiler cut the light. Most would be surprised that even letting off just before the stripe there’s no difference in times, mph yes et no. Not a stock driver yet but I’ve been racing or helping guys race for 55 years.

Lenny5160_v2 01-23-2024 12:06 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 692051)
Most would be surprised that even letting off just before the stripe there’s no difference in times, mph yes et no.

The MPH on the slip is a calculation based on the time it takes to cover the last 66 feet of the track. With respect to ET and MPH, you can't change one without also changing the other.

james schaechter 01-23-2024 02:13 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692014)
You are correct, a dumb question! Clearly you haven't read the Rulebook yet you claim you're building a stocker.





My $ says you never make one pass in NHRA competition with a stock eliminator car that you build.

Hi JP I will save a pit spot for your wagon. Some people crash into classracer with less than supportive responses just because it makes them feel better. Cheap therapy I guess.


Don’t let the one dude that never has never raced a class car rain on your project.

JP1738 01-23-2024 02:41 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 692073)
Hi JP I will save a pit spot for your wagon. Some people crash into classracer with less than supportive responses just because it makes them feel better. Cheap therapy I guess.


Don’t let the one dude that never has never raced a class car rain on your project.

Count me in brother! I'll finish this car and be in Orlando come hell or high water. I screen shot his mean-spirited response and printed it out. It's on my fridge now. A little motivation goes a long way.:p

Barry Polley 01-23-2024 04:58 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
The word “netiquette” comes from a combination of “net” and “etiquette”. It refers to certain rules of civil behavior for online discussions. You could say it’s a kind of Emily Post for the online world.

j gardiner 01-25-2024 08:46 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
1320 Racer is like the Don Rickles of Classracer.

1320racer 01-26-2024 07:11 AM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
that reference says all I need to know about you and further proof that this class is full of old men who's time on this rock no mind racing is quickly coming to an end.

j gardiner 01-26-2024 01:50 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
You didn’t think that was funny That reference was for you because I assumed you were old.

1320racer 01-26-2024 02:02 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
I am but Don Rickles was a thing for my father's generation not mine.

Bill Grubbs 01-26-2024 02:16 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692252)
I am but Don Rickles was a thing for my father's generation not mine.

I’m not sure I agree with that Biff. I think it applies quite well.

jmcarter 01-26-2024 03:42 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Think 660Ed is more of the Rodney Dangerfield type…

1320racer 01-26-2024 03:50 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
My generation's comics included George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Andrew Dice Clay and Sam Kinison, the last 2 who I saw live at Rascals in West Orange, NJ before they were famous/celebs

SBillinson 01-26-2024 04:55 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692252)
I am but Don Rickles was a thing for my father's generation not mine.

Let me guess: You're an Andrew Dice Clay kinda guy?!

SBillinson 01-26-2024 04:57 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692262)
My generation's comics included George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Andrew Dice Clay and Sam Kinison, the last 2 who I saw live at Rascals in West Orange, NJ before they were famous/celebs

Never mind. You already answered the question....

SS3860 01-26-2024 08:57 PM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j gardiner (Post 692217)
1320 Racer is like the Don Rickles of Classracer.

https://youtu.be/b0toL3C0R14?si=zcM5IIyiqSdw5UIg
He could be the Rodney Dangerfield no respect.

JP1738 04-28-2025 08:57 AM

Re: Stripe Catcher/Pecker Extender
 
I know this thread kinda turned ugly over a year ago, but is now a good time to bring it back up? CGL, what are your thoughts on the opening posts of this thread? It seems I was looking into this in the same vane as you are now. I would love some clarification from an actual rules official. Maybe Someone here or I could send the head of tech in Glendora an email for some clarification.

Also I was not in Vegas and have not seen the stripe catcher that is being talked about. I would really appreciate CGL posting a picture so we east coast racers can get some kind of frame of reference for what is being discussed. I'm neither for nor against the stripe catcher, but it'd be nice to know definitively what is and isn't legal to avoid any additional hoopla in the future.


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