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Has anybody had extensive experience with an alternative to Crewchief Pro? I understand there are several options out there from Computech, Family Software,etc....but I would like to know what products are out there that are fully functional, bug free, compatible with various weather stations, and a reasonable level of customer support.

Any constructive comments?

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We've been using https://www.ifamilysoftware.com/ together with a weather station from https://altalabinstrument.com/ since 2018 and won many wallys, championships, finished #4 in the world and over $150k in cash.

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That's a pretty good resume fo sho!

But what I was looking for was features that you liked(or didn't like) about the software or a comparison to other programs.

Reliability, accuracy, ease of use/installation, price, compatibility with windows, adaptability to weather station, etc.

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What don't you like or why are you looking for an alternative to crew chief Pro? I made the plunge with a trailer based weather station and Crew chief pro and am very happy. Other than the learning curve, it is a easy to use program with plenty of options. Don will answer the phone at almost any time to help, and I received contigency last year from him.
All good things

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Stan Weiss - CARFOR

CARFOR

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You're absolutely right....he does answer the phone. But the call usually goes downhill shortly after that. I know that he has many very happy customers.....I am just not one of them. In ten years of paying for and using Crewchief I have yet to call for help without being told the problem was either my tune or my computer....if I could even get a word in edge wise. It has never been an error or glitch in the software. I know lots of folks are very happy with this company but I haven't had the same experience.

I refuse to spend my money with a company from whom I cannot expect a reasonable level of respect.

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There are many that don’t like him, his customer service after the sale and his business practices.

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You can put me on that list

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I have also heard the same things, luckily my problem was an easy one, but I have heard racers say he talked down to them like they should have a masters in computer science when they were being walked thru a problem.

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One of his business practices is he has walked into one of my friends trailer when no one was there and he proceed to check that he had a current license for his multiple cars. He did and they caught him

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Well, I've been using Crew Chief for 20+ yrs. I like it, and Don and his wife have been very helpful. I never felt like they talked down to me, and I am far from a computer wiz.

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He'll never see a dollar of my money.

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I was using the Altronics Raceworks software for quite a while. I switched to CCP about year ago. CCP seems to be less quirky than the Altronics software. Don himself installed his software for me at the track one evening. He came back during the event to see how it was matching up to my runs. He made a few adjustments and it has been real accurate. Like many I barely use the tip of the iceberg with the program. I am not at all computer savvy. I don’t have any experience with any of the others. Most everyone that has a PC based weather station that I know is using CCP.

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Dwight,
Thank you very much, but I don't believe my software is what GrapeApe is looking for. He wants software that will seamlessly interface with a weather station, which I am sure is just one of a number of things that he looking for that my software doesn't do.

If anyone is interested in what my software will do, send me an email srweiss1@comcast.net and I will send you a link to download a free 14 day trial version.

Stan

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Stan, can't seem to get much information on your website link other than a link to an order form that doesn't work.

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We’ve been using CCP for many years and had no such issues with CCP. Our team has been very successful with advice from Kyle Seiple honing in on factors. (God speed brother)

I can imagine it’s pretty tough to keep pirating in check for software.

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G.A.. asked;,

But what I was looking for was features that you liked(or didn't like) about the software or a comparison to other programs.

Reliability, accuracy, ease of use/installation, etc

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In fairness I don’t condone disrespecting racers either.

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ifamily provides all of the above without attitude, lousy after the sale customer service, shady business practices, suing racers, etc.

https://www.ifamilysoftware.com/

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Please send me an email srweiss1@comcast.net. A google search will most likely take you to an old web site, from an ISP that I have not had for over 5 years. I would post a link here, but the last time I posted a link to my web site the moderator removed it from my post.


Stan

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So first of all kind of totally perplexed to find myself in total agreement with ED, a first and undoubtedly a sign of the impending apocalypse! Mark I was happy to see you went with Bob and iFamily, you'll not be sorry!!!

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I switched from Crew Chief to Family Software quite a few years ago, Bob is real easy to deal with and his software works. I found the support with Crew Chief to be challenging at best.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

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We use a ~1994 Casio Calculator for Density Altitude that my Dad had bought as part of an DA kit when he raced S/C. We since replaced the temp and humidity gage with a $15 digital one from amazon that we checked against others ones around our 2 houses to be safe. We have an analog altimeter too. We track our runs in the attached excel document I came up with. I do a trend line sometimes and/or just best guess when I know the DA. All bracket racing around Michigan has gone 1/8th mile and the et's reflect that. It works ok, more consistent than the driver, that's for sure!

Wouldn't let me attached the excel file for whatever reason. So here are some screenshots.

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I have raced S/C,S/G and Stock since 1975 and have always used CCP since around 2008 and have won a few Nationals/Divisionals here and there,the driver is the problem! not my cars,I recommend CCP to many. We have had no problem with Crew Chief Pro,Don & Michele Higgins have always answered any question we threw at them. Everyone’s got a different idea about everything,including makes of cars and whose Transmission and converter are best,! Mark when you said at Vegas When we raced that you didn’t know that I sandbagged that badly and after we raced I showed you my CCP that all 3 formulas were within 2 thou. I was going dead 2 and unfortunately you missed your dial by a bit.IMHO Crew Chief Pro is great for us. Chad Langdon 706C G/SA

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i have the computech race air cloud. really like it. all in one unit and very easy to use. very customizable.

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Chad

You are right....your predictions were spot on!! I have had good days and bad days with CCP as well. However, there have been enough bad days that I can't bring myself to rely completely on predictions which sometimes vary .05-.08 from Formula 1 to Formula 3.

But the real problem I have with the product is not the product itself. It seems you have enjoyed a much different experience with the owner of the company than I.....and that's probably because you're just a nicer guy than I am!!! I know for sure you're better looking!!! Seriously though, I think I will be more comfortable with a more personable vendor than the forementioned software vendor.

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I still use my Altalab handheld casio calculator.. there stuff is good.. of course its only as good as the input you put in.. You can set up data bases , or do it single run